Anyone find the grammar errors??


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Anyone find the grammar errors??

Postby MJR » Sun Dec 04, 2005 5:42 pm

.... from the T&FN web site....

Arkansas's men and Oregon's women raked in the leading hauls of new talent, according to the annual Track & Field News recruiting ratings. The December issue of the magazine includes the popular "Where They Are Going" feature, an overall roundup of collegiate eligibility news, along with the choices of the top recruiting classes.

John McDonnell's Hogs scored a major coup with the inking of '05 boy's Athlete of the Year J-Mee Samuels, the High School Record-setter in the 100.

New Oregon coach Vin Lananna strengthened the Duck women's squad with the addition of High School Record-setting javelin thrower Rachel Yurkovich.
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Postby SQUACKEE » Sun Dec 04, 2005 5:48 pm

nope
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Postby dukehjsteve » Sun Dec 04, 2005 6:06 pm

extra s after Arkansas' is wrong
should be boys' not boy's
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Postby tafnut » Sun Dec 04, 2005 6:09 pm

about the 's after Arkansas - current style manuals say that if you say it out loud, you have to include it, so that is correct as stands.
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Re: Anyone find the grammar errors??

Postby BisonHurdler » Sun Dec 04, 2005 7:22 pm

MJR wrote:.... from the T&FN web site....

Arkansas's men and Oregon's women raked in the leading hauls of new talent, according to the annual Track & Field News recruiting ratings. The December issue of the magazine includes the popular "Where They Are Going" feature, an overall roundup of collegiate eligibility news, along with the choices of the top recruiting classes.

John McDonnell's Hogs scored a major coup with the inking of '05 boy's Athlete of the Year J-Mee Samuels, the High School Record-setter in the 100.

New Oregon coach Vin Lananna strengthened the Duck women's squad with the addition of High School Record-setting javelin thrower Rachel Yurkovich.



"J-Mee" should be spelled "Jamie."

Oh wait . . . .
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Re: Anyone find the grammar errors??

Postby tandfman » Sun Dec 04, 2005 8:21 pm

MJR wrote:John McDonnell's Hogs scored a major coup with the inking of '05 boy's Athlete of the Year J-Mee Samuels, the High School Record-setter in the 100.

That last hyphen seems wrong.
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Re: Anyone find the grammar errors??

Postby slowcoach » Mon Dec 05, 2005 1:33 am

MJR wrote:...boy's...


This is the only one. But we wouldn't expect many from a T&F (generically speaking) mag, now would we? :D

Keep up the good work.
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Re: Anyone find the grammar errors??

Postby slowcoach » Mon Dec 05, 2005 1:42 am

tandfman wrote:
MJR wrote:John McDonnell's Hogs scored a major coup with the inking of '05 boy's Athlete of the Year J-Mee Samuels, the High School Record-setter in the 100.

That last hyphen seems wrong.


What about the last one in the whole piece? :?

"Eats shoots and leaves" recommends using them to avoid ambiguity, which is not really necessary in this case, but it's a style thing, not really an outright error.
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Re: Anyone find the grammar errors??

Postby EPelle » Mon Dec 05, 2005 2:30 am

Is AOY A-O-Y or not?

There are also style inconsistencies with capitalisation, along with passive writing.
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Re: Anyone find the grammar errors??

Postby tandfman » Mon Dec 05, 2005 5:46 am

slowcoach wrote:
tandfman wrote:
MJR wrote:John McDonnell's Hogs scored a major coup with the inking of '05 boy's Athlete of the Year J-Mee Samuels, the High School Record-setter in the 100.

That last hyphen seems wrong.


What about the last one in the whole piece? :?

The last one in the whole piece is a compound adjective; the hyphen is acceptable there.
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Postby Kevin Richardson » Mon Dec 05, 2005 6:40 am

Wow. I could get a much better view of the forest if you could cut down the first few rows of trees.......

Why is this on the current events board? It is an interesting grammatical test of knowing how to write properly, but it has little to do with the facts that are portrayed in the article.

Perhaps a new board is in order. We could call it Editing the Editor.
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Postby dunes runner » Mon Dec 05, 2005 5:43 pm

tafnut wrote:about the 's after Arkansas - current style manuals say that if you say it out loud, you have to include it, so that is correct as stands.



Why would you say Arkansauses?
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Other errors

Postby Mighty Favog » Mon Dec 05, 2005 5:57 pm

Last month's T&FN listed Toledo as hosting the Mid-American Conference indoor championships. I didn't think they had an indoor facility there. Turns out I'm right and the meet will be some 25 miles south at Bowling Green. But this month's issue still lists it at Toledo.

Considering that multiple issues last fall listed the same conference's XC meet also at Toledo on a Sunday, while it was actually at Northern Illinois on a Saturday, somebody is falling asleep at the switch.
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Postby tafnut » Mon Dec 05, 2005 6:10 pm

dunes runner wrote:
tafnut wrote:about the 's after Arkansas - current style manuals say that if you say it out loud, you have to include it, so that is correct as stands.

Why would you say Arkansauses?


um . . . no . . . I would say Arkansas's, which, since the final s in Arkansas is silent, the pronounced s at the end must be the possessive s, therefore it must be included when writing it out! :)
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Postby gh » Mon Dec 05, 2005 9:03 pm

dunes runner wrote:
tafnut wrote:about the 's after Arkansas - current style manuals say that if you say it out loud, you have to include it, so that is correct as stands.



Why would you say Arkansauses?


You don't. Arkansas is pronounced "ar-kan-saw" and Arkansas's is pronounced "ar-kan-saws"; ain't particularly logical, but such is the beast that is English. Same applies to Illinois, Illinois's.
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Postby mike renfro » Mon Dec 05, 2005 10:14 pm

[um . . . no . . . I would say Arkansas's, which, since the final s in Arkansas is silent, the pronounced s at the end must be the possessive s, therefore it must be included when writing it out! :)[/quote]

Aw, cmon tafnut, you're from the south. now. It is procnounced Arkansass. Geez.

On the other hand, nobody really cares :-)
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Re: Anyone find the grammar errors??

Postby tandfman » Tue Dec 06, 2005 5:41 am

slowcoach wrote:"Eats shoots and leaves" recommends using them to avoid ambiguity, which is not really necessary in this case, but it's a style thing, not really an outright error.

If you want an example of an outright error, consider the four outright errors in your citation of the book's title. It's actually "Eats, Shoots & Leaves."
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Re: Other errors

Postby gh » Sat Dec 10, 2005 11:44 am

Mighty Favog wrote:Last month's T&FN listed Toledo as hosting the Mid-American Conference indoor championships. I didn't think they had an indoor facility there. Turns out I'm right and the meet will be some 25 miles south at Bowling Green. But this month's issue still lists it at Toledo.

Considering that multiple issues last fall listed the same conference's XC meet also at Toledo on a Sunday, while it was actually at Northern Illinois on a Saturday, somebody is falling asleep at the switch.


Since this got aired as dirty laundry on the now-pulled letsrun thread, thought I'd better go find it, because I couldn't recall its being pulled, as charged there. Thread got moved because it wandered away from anything to do w/ the sport itself.

But yes, you are right, and third time's the charm... the January issue will have the MAC meet in the right place.

Meanwhile, back at the switch....zzzzzzz....
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