Mark Block given 10yrs for supplying drugs to Zhanna Block

[Jon]

http://www.athleticsweekly.com/news/mar ... -year-ban/

No word on whether Zhanna Block (who I presume is retired, not having competing since 2006) will be banned. But if she has her 2001 gold medal taken away, it could in theory be handed to Ekatherini Thanou!

[7-sided]

About Damn Time!!! And, to answer your question, Jon, the Ukraine actually offered Zhanna's name up for the IAAF Council at the last Congress?!!

Now the question is what the IAAF and USATF does with his agency. The ban has to include his management agency. A list of his athletes below.

Lisa Aguilera (USA/Nike)
3000m Steeplechase
2010 US Outdoor Champion 2010

Russell Brown (USA/Nike)
Mile
2008 World Indoors Team Member

Nicole Bush (USA/New Balance)
3000m Steeplechase
2010 US Outdoor Champs Runner-up

Geena Gall (USA/Nike)
800m
2009 World Outdoor Team Member

Lacy Janson (USA/Nike)
Pole Vault
2010 US #1/ World #5

Will Leer (USA/Nike)
1500m
2010 US Outdoor Champs 3rd Place

Billy Nelson (USA/Nike)
3000m Steeplechase
2008 Olympian

Travis Padgett (USA/Adidas)
100m
Fastest Collegiate Ever, 9.89

Liz Patterson (USA/Asics)
High Jump
2010 US Outdoor Champs Runner-up

Kellie Wells (USA/Nike)
2011 US Indoor Champion
60m Hurdles

Dylan Armstrong (CAN/Nike)
Shot Put
2008 Fourth Place Olympic Games

Nataliya Dobrynska (UKR/Nike)
Heptathlon
2008 Olympic Gold Medalist

Carmelita Jeter (USA/Nike)
100m
2nd Fastest Woman Ever

Sally Kipyego (KEN/Nike)
5000m
2010 World # 7

Fabrice Lapierre (AUS/Asics)
Long Jump
2010 World Indoor Champion

David Payne (USA/Nike)
110m Hurdles
2008 Olympic Silver Medalist

Nick Symmonds (USA/Nike)
800m
Four-Time World Champs Team Member

Dwight Thomas (JAM/Adidas)
4x100m
2008 Olympic Gold Medalist

Sheena Tosta (USA/Nike)
400m Hurdles
2008 Olympic Silver Medalist

Novlene Williams-Mills (JAM/Adidas)
4x400m
2008 Olympic Bronze Medalist

[peach77]

In fairness, being an agent to someone is VERY different from being their coach. Though having looked at that list...

[mump boy]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

about time to

who can be bothered to work out the implications of Zhanna losing medals ?

i would but American Idol's on

[gh]

In fairness, being an agent to someone is VERY different from being their coach. Though having looked at that list...

Very cheap shot

[mump boy]

Ok so i can multi task

presumably any ban would be associated with BALCO but i'm going to be a bit more comprehensive

Revised medallists

Women's 100m. Final. European Athletics Championships 1994

1. Irina PRIVALOVA RUS 11.02
2. Melanie PASCHKE GER 11.28
3. Anelia NUNEVA BUL 11.40
4. Nelli COOMAN HOL 11.40
5. Petya PENDAREVA BUL 11.41

DQ 2. Zhanna TARNOPOLSKAYA UKR 11.10


Women's 200m. Final. European Athletics Championships 1994

1. Irina PRIVALOVA RUS 22.32
2. Galina MALTCHUGINA URS 22.90
3. Silke KNOLL GER 22.99
4. Maya AZARASHVILI GER 23.01
5. Sanna HERNESNIEMI FIN 23.24

DQ Zhanna TARNOPOLSKAYA UKR 22.77


Women's 100m. Final. World Athletics Championships 1997

1. Marion Jones USA 10.83 WL
2. Sevatheda Fynes BAH 11.03
3. Christine Arron FRA 11.05
4. Inger Miller USA 11.18
5. Melanie Paschke GER 11.19
6. Merlene Ottey JAM 11.29
7. Chryste Gaines USA 11.32

DQ Zhanna TARNOPOLSKAYA-PINTUSEVICH UKR 10.85

Women's 200m. Final. World Athletics Championships 1997


1. Susanthika Jayasinghe SRI 22.39
2. Merlene Ottey JAM 22.40
3. Yekaterina Leshchova RUS 22.50
4. Inger Miller USA 22.52
5. Marina Trandenkova RUS 22.65
6. Melinda Gainsford-Taylor AUS 22.73
7. Sylviane Felix FRA 22.81

DQ 1. Zhanna TARNOPOLSKAYA-PINTUSEVICH UKR 22.32

1998 Europeans

Women's 200m. final. 1998 European Athletics Championships
1. Irina PRIVALOVA RUS 22.62
2. Melanie PASCHKE GER 22.78
3. Natalya VORONOVA RUS 22.80
4. Nora IVANOVA BUL 23.02
5. Sabrina MULRAIN GER 23.04
6. Gabi ROCKMEIER GER 23.08
7. Erika SUCHOVSKA CZE 23.18

DQ 2. Zhanna PINTUSEVICH UKR 22.74

Women's 100m. Final. World Athletics Championships 2001

can't even be bothered

1. Zhanna PINTUSEVICH-BLOCK UKR 10.82
2. Marion JONES USA 10.85
3. Ekaterina THANOU GRE 10.91
4. Chandra STURRUP BAH 11.02
5. Christe GAINES USA 11.06
6. Debbie FERGUSON BAH 11.13
7. Kelli WHITE USA 11.15
8. Mercy NKU NIG 11.17

Women's 60m Final. 2003 World Indoor Championships

1. Angela Williams USA 7.16
2. Torri Edwards USA 7.17
3. Merlene Ottey SLO 7.20
4. Karin Mayr-Krifka AUT 7.23
5. MArina Kislova RUS 7.26
6. Joice Maduaka GBR 7.

DQ Zhanna Block UKR 7.04

Edit to another one i can't be bothered to ammend

2003 Paris 100m

1 Torri Edwards USA 10.93 (PB) 0.133
2 Zhanna Block UKR 10.99 (SB) 0.160
3 Chandra Sturrup BAH 11.02 . 0.136
4 Ekateríni Thánou GRE 11.03 (SB) 0.219
5 Christine Arron FRA 11.06 . 0.182
6 Aleen Bailey JAM 11.07 (PB) 0.205
7 Gail Devers USA 11.11 (SB) 0.150
. Kelli White USA DQ . 0.184

i feel like she's won more indoor medals but can't be bothered to look it up

well we can live in hope can't we

[gh]

A question I don't know the answer to: does USADA have any power over Zhanna B? If not, might it be tough to get any suspension in the works for her at this point?

And if USADA's "proof" consists only of Block's "trafficking" in the stuff, would there even be sufficient "non-analyitical" grounds for suspending her?

[tandfman]

mump boy's list omits the 2003 World Championships, where Block took the 100m silver medal behind Torri Edwards and ahead of Chandra Sturrup and Ekaterini Thánou.

[gh]

About Damn Time!!! And, to answer your question, Jon, the Ukraine actually offered Zhanna's name up for the IAAF Council at the last Congress?!!...

Not sure what your point is here. The IAAF has a graved-in-stone policy about not commenting on any ongoing investigations (which this obviously was at that point).

Furthermore, the IAAF's not really in the suspension business anymore (which is why the ADAs were created in the first place; to remove any politicking). They can certainly reject the findings of the various ADAs and ask for modifications (or in extreme cases, go to CAS), but you can expect them to have done anything with the Ukrainian information. Assuming that that tale is true (never heard it before).

[7-sided]

About Damn Time!!! And, to answer your question, Jon, the Ukraine actually offered Zhanna's name up for the IAAF Council at the last Congress?!!...

Not sure what your point is here. The IAAF has a graved-in-stone policy about not commenting on any ongoing investigations (which this obviously was at that point).

Furthermore, the IAAF's not really in the suspension business anymore (which is why the ADAs were created in the first place; to remove any politicking). They can certainly reject the findings of the various ADAs and ask for modifications (or in extreme cases, go to CAS), but you can expect them to have done anything with the Ukrainian information. Assuming that that tale is true (never heard it before).

gh, Jon wondered if she had retired; I was pointing out that she ran for a position at the IAAF congress. The IAAF doesn't determine who runs for which position - something that we both [should] know - the candidate has to be recommended by their country (Ukraine). I never implied that the IAAF was in the commenting business...

Also, since we "don't make accuasations on this board", the "about damn time" was NOT referring to the former athlete...

[gh]

OK, the problem here is one of English (American?) usage! When you said Ukraine "offered her up" I took that to meant they tried to rat her out. I'm not familiar with the term as related to political candidacy. (Which doesn't mean it isn't common)

[Bruce Kritzler]

[quote="mump boy"]
can't even be bothered

1. Zhanna PINTUSEVICH-BLOCK UKR 10.82
2. Marion JONES USA 10.85
3. Ekaterina THANOU GRE 10.91
4. Chandra STURRUP BAH 11.02
5. Christe GAINES USA 11.06
6. Debbie FERGUSON BAH 11.13
7. Kelli WHITE USA 11.15
8. Mercy NKU NIG 11.17

Wow, if we knew then, what we know now!

[gh]

Now the question is what the IAAF and USATF does with his agency. The ban has to include his management agency. A list of his athletes below....

If you're suggesting his agency be shut down, I concur wholeheartedly. If you're suggesting that his current clients receive some kind of censure I couldn't disagree more strenuously. On two grounds.

1. There's a difference between his roles as coach (to Block) and as agent (to a wide variety of people spread across the country). It was one thing to focus on Trevor Graham and his "training group," but that's not what the bulk of these people are. As the facts, at least as revealed, state, he was supplying his wife, for whom he served as coach. No other names were mentioned.

2. All this evidence against Block, as far as I can tell, is fallout from BALCO, which means that none (or virtually so) of his current clients were working with him (or, indeed, even anything but HS/college students at the time), and there is no smoking gun, unless you want to go wild on guilt-by-association. Color me naïve, but I refuse to go down that road, no matter how dirty an operation I think he may have been running almost a decade ago.

[peach77]

Despite my earlier "cheap shot" (a position I maintain for a couple of people on that list), I couldn't agree with you more. There is absolutely no evidence to suggest this involves the people on that list and using someone as your agent, as I said earlier, is massively different to using them as your coach. The whole Trevor Graham thing came about after numerous positives in his group highlighted a group-wide problem. This just shows Mark Block gave drugs to his wife. Lest we forget, this has LONG been rumoured- Zhanna Block's name was mentioned from the start of the BALCO investigation. None of the athletes in that list have anything to answer for with regards to this...

[mump boy]

Wholeheartedly agree BUT i am not comfortable with anyone who would choose Mark Block as their manager

[Flumpy]

can't even be bothered

1. Zhanna PINTUSEVICH-BLOCK UKR 10.82
2. Marion JONES USA 10.85
3. Ekaterina THANOU GRE 10.91
4. Chandra STURRUP BAH 11.02
5. Christe GAINES USA 11.06
6. Debbie FERGUSON BAH 11.13
7. Kelli WHITE USA 11.15
8. Mercy NKU NIG 11.17

Wow, if we knew then, what we know now!

I'm pretty certain we all knew then what we know now.

[PCSExponent]

1. Zhanna PINTUSEVICH-BLOCK UKR 10.82
2. Marion JONES USA 10.85
3. Ekaterina THANOU GRE 10.91
4. Chandra STURRUP BAH 11.02
5. Christe GAINES USA 11.06
6. Debbie FERGUSON BAH 11.13
7. Kelli WHITE USA 11.15
8. Mercy NKU NIG 11.17

Three clean (AFA we know) athletes out of 8. Is it any wonder that one finds one's enthusiasm gravitates with time away from the sprints and towards the distance and jumping events?

[7-sided]

Now the question is what the IAAF and USATF does with his agency. The ban has to include his management agency. A list of his athletes below....

If you're suggesting his agency be shut down, I concur wholeheartedly. If you're suggesting that his current clients receive some kind of censure I couldn't disagree more strenuously. On two grounds.

Slow down, gh, we agree: no sanctions for his current athletes (unless they also are being investigated); shut down the agency. However, the IAAF should make sure that Block has zero interest because a former athlete runs one part of that agency, iirc.

I knew Block when he was still a coach at Clemson (and no, I'm not saying he was dirty while he was there); the guy is NOT a monster, but I was told some...well, let's just say that the 10 year ban makes what was said true (no need to begin idle speculation...). Btw, for those of you who are facebook friends with Tyree Washington, his comment was, "Bout time!"

The problem I have is USADA needs to stop the slow drip of information when they KNOW they have the goods to bury people now. Extending BALCO for the purposes of organizational maintenance is not doing track and field any favors (though it makes the organization immediately relevant).

When you said Ukraine "offered her up" ... I'm not familiar with the term as related to political candidacy. (Which doesn't mean it isn't common)

for a candidate to run for an office within the IAAF their respective governing body has to bless it. In fact, you can't run without the countries blessing even if you are already within the IAAF (see: Chuene, L - RSA). The country has to "offer her up" or put her name forward...whatever you wan't to call it.

[tandfman]

Wholeheartedly agree BUT i am not comfortable with anyone who would choose Mark Block as their manager

You're implying that all of his athletes knew about what he did in the past when they chose him. I don't know that this is true--I rather doubt it.

[Jon]

An in-depth look at the mess that has become women's championships sprint finals from '97-'04:
http://www.athleticsweekly.com/blog/med ... th-medals/

[Alucard]

PSCExponent - let us wait this out before fully blaming or relieving some of blame. We just never know, do we.

[7-sided]

An in-depth look at the mess that has become women's championships sprint finals from '97-'04:
http://www.athleticsweekly.com/blog/med ... th-medals/

Jon, I edited my comment ... the athlete has not been charged.

[huh?]

An in-depth look at the mess that has become women's championships sprint finals from '97-'04:
http://www.athleticsweekly.com/blog/med ... th-medals/

When Raymond Stewart was banned for life an athlete at 200m was named; she is listed as not sanctioned on your list.

Raymond Stewart is a woman? That's news to me.

[mump boy]

Wholeheartedly agree BUT i am not comfortable with anyone who would choose Mark Block as their manager

You're implying that all of his athletes knew about what he did in the past when they chose him. I don't know that this is true--I rather doubt it.

Well i know and it's nothing to do with me. It either shows a lack of curiosity or a lack of concern. A very simple google search would tell you all you need to know about Mark Block, i would have thought most people would at least want to know the basics about the person who is representing them.

[mump boy]

1. Zhanna PINTUSEVICH-BLOCK UKR 10.82
2. Marion JONES USA 10.85
3. Ekaterina THANOU GRE 10.91
4. Chandra STURRUP BAH 11.02
5. Christe GAINES USA 11.06
6. Debbie FERGUSON BAH 11.13
7. Kelli WHITE USA 11.15
8. Mercy NKU NIG 11.17

Three clean (AFA we know) athletes out of 8. Is it any wonder that one finds one's enthusiasm gravitates with time away from the sprints and towards the distance and jumping events?

i can only count 2 clean and i would bet my house on one of them being as dirty as her training partner

[Alucard]

Mump the other will have her best year yet this year.

[gh]

... A very simple google search would tell you all you need to know about Mark Block, i would have thought most people would at least want to know the basics about the person who is representing them.

Not sure what you found on google, but there was something that suggested he wasn't a suitable agent, then the IAAF needs to be taken to task for listing him as one of their certified representatives. That should be the gold standard by which athletes make their choices.

[PCSExponent]

i can only count 2 clean and i would bet my house on one of them being as dirty as her training partner

When was Nku banned? At any rate, I have to agree with what you posted some years back (or was it flump? it's easy to distinguish between you 2 while reading your posts, but after data assimilation, all you 2 ever post runs into a single mental file under "muflmp") - we should skip all the "meddling" and award all golds in 100m & 200m from 1997 onwards to DF.

[peach77]

Presuming she is/has always been clean (and I have no reason to doubt her), just how frustrated would you be if you were Debbie Ferguson? It must hurt. BADLY!

[tandfman]

An in-depth look at the mess that has become women's championships sprint finals from '97-'04:
http://www.athleticsweekly.com/blog/med ... th-medals/

I think you've missed one. I believe Inger Miller lost a medal at the 1999 World Indoors after she tested positive for caffeine.

[Alucard]

Presuming she is/has always been clean (and I have no reason to doubt her), just how frustrated would you be if you were Debbie Ferguson? It must hurt. BADLY!

Dont swear for Debbie or anyone else, let us allow it to all unfold HOw can we swear for any sprinter into today situation. Debbie is a changed sprinter, look for some good runs from her this year.

[Flumpy]

... A very simple google search would tell you all you need to know about Mark Block, i would have thought most people would at least want to know the basics about the person who is representing them.

Not sure what you found on google, but there was something that suggested he wasn't a suitable agent, then the IAAF needs to be taken to task for listing him as one of their certified representatives. That should be the gold standard by which athletes make their choices.

Surely since the whole BALCO conflama and his name being all over it the IAAF knew exactly what he was?

Why the IAAF did nothing about it I don't know.

[mump boy]

... A very simple google search would tell you all you need to know about Mark Block, i would have thought most people would at least want to know the basics about the person who is representing them.

Not sure what you found on google, but there was something that suggested he wasn't a suitable agent, then the IAAF needs to be taken to task for listing him as one of their certified representatives. That should be the gold standard by which athletes make their choices.

Common knowledge to anyone who had the slightest interest. All this shows is that many athletes have no interest in their sport.

[mump boy]

i can only count 2 clean and i would bet my house on one of them being as dirty as her training partner

When was Nku banned?

She failed a test in 2006 but there seems to be some confusion over whether she was banned or not. Either way she retired straight afterwards. So she is deffo of my list of clean athletes in that race

[texas_speed]

Debbie is a changed sprinter, look for some good runs from her this year.

How much more can she change at her age? She's been doing this for a long time and has been in tip top shape (at least visually) for the past few years or so.