Fireworks at HSI?


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Postby JRM » Mon Apr 14, 2008 4:25 pm

Marquis wrote:It doesn't sound like Ato at all.


For what it's worth, Ato himself has posted a related topic on his website as recently as today, and hasn't refuted the letter. You'd think he would be the first to cry foul if he didn't write it.
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Postby Cooter Brown » Mon Apr 14, 2008 4:55 pm

marknhj wrote:Damn - missed it. Hands up all who are now clicking over to letsrun?


went to letsrun for the first time ever. wow that site's a trainwreck. anyway, that is the most incoherent letter I've ever read. I'm not sure what it said. I guess it's the email equivalent of drunk dialing an ex.
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Postby trackhead » Mon Apr 14, 2008 6:16 pm

JRM wrote:
Marquis wrote:It doesn't sound like Ato at all.


For what it's worth, Ato himself has posted a related topic on his website as recently as today, and hasn't refuted the letter. You'd think he would be the first to cry foul if he didn't write it.


He didn't?

"If I wrote a letter to anyone it would not be seen online. I have been online since 1995, and you have never seen that anywhere from me. It's a good fabrication, but a fabrication nonetheless, bait for the internet boards and press I suppose to make the story bigger than it already is."

http://atoboldon.sc49.info/letsrap/inde ... pic=5726.0
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Postby jazzcyclist » Mon Apr 14, 2008 6:30 pm

trackhead wrote:
JRM wrote:
Marquis wrote:It doesn't sound like Ato at all.


For what it's worth, Ato himself has posted a related topic on his website as recently as today, and hasn't refuted the letter. You'd think he would be the first to cry foul if he didn't write it.


He didn't?

"If I wrote a letter to anyone it would not be seen online. I have been online since 1995, and you have never seen that anywhere from me. It's a good fabrication, but a fabrication nonetheless, bait for the internet boards and press I suppose to make the story bigger than it already is."

http://atoboldon.sc49.info/letsrap/inde ... pic=5726.0


Speedbuff can clear up the confusion by telling us where he got the letter from.
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Postby JRM » Mon Apr 14, 2008 6:42 pm

trackhead wrote:
JRM wrote:
Marquis wrote:It doesn't sound like Ato at all.


For what it's worth, Ato himself has posted a related topic on his website as recently as today, and hasn't refuted the letter. You'd think he would be the first to cry foul if he didn't write it.


He didn't?

"If I wrote a letter to anyone it would not be seen online. I have been online since 1995, and you have never seen that anywhere from me. It's a good fabrication, but a fabrication nonetheless, bait for the internet boards and press I suppose to make the story bigger than it already is."

http://atoboldon.sc49.info/letsrap/inde ... pic=5726.0


Boldon posted that after my initial comment.
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Postby guru » Mon Apr 14, 2008 6:48 pm

jazzcyclist wrote:Speedbuff can clear up the confusion by telling us where he got the letter from.


I doubt it.
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Postby tandfman » Mon Apr 14, 2008 6:50 pm

guru wrote:
jazzcyclist wrote:Speedbuff can clear up the confusion by telling us where he got the letter from.

I doubt it.

I suspect that he can. I doubt that he will.
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Postby Flumpy » Tue Apr 15, 2008 9:41 am

It will all come out sooner or later. The letter was clearly leaked on purpose, I wonder what's coming next???
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Re: Fireworks at HSI?

Postby 26mi235 » Tue Apr 15, 2008 10:13 am

Speedbuff wrote:The following is a letter circulating around that was allegedly written by a former member of HSI....

[and you really think we'd let scurrilous crap like this stand?--mods]


Can someone summarize what the allegations were in the supposed letter, which I have not seen appear in some places that I would expect to see it (which is an indication that it might well be false). [gh's comment below 'a plant' is what I meant in my (.)]
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Postby gh » Tue Apr 15, 2008 10:14 am

That's assuming that the letter is a "leak" and not a "plant."
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Postby Speedbuff » Tue Apr 15, 2008 11:50 am

The author of the recent meltdown letter is being threatened with a lawsuit from someone hefty, so he has decided not to publicly own up to writing it. However, people in know have confirmed who wrote the letter.
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Postby Speedbuff » Tue Apr 15, 2008 11:53 am

This is kind of an an interesting link.

http://z15.invisionfree.com/SprintZone/ ... 3030&st=45
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Postby jazzcyclist » Tue Apr 15, 2008 11:58 am

Speedbuff wrote:The author of the recent meltdown letter is being threatened with a lawsuit from someone hefty, so he has decided not to publicly own up to writing it. However, people in know have confirmed who wrote the letter.

Can you name or at least describe the person who you got the letter from?
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Postby mcgato » Tue Apr 15, 2008 12:30 pm

Speedbuff wrote:This is kind of an an interesting link.

http://z15.invisionfree.com/SprintZone/ ... 3030&st=45

I like how tfan used the phrase 'rectus humongus' in the post about 8 above the initial appearance of the alleged letter, which uses the same phrase repeatedly.
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Postby dukehjsteve » Tue Apr 15, 2008 12:59 pm

interesting use of our esteemed President's name in a similar fashion...
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Postby marknhj » Tue Apr 15, 2008 1:49 pm

mcgato wrote:I like how tfan used the phrase 'rectus humongus' in the post about 8 above the initial appearance of the alleged letter, which uses the same phrase repeatedly.


I'm sort of relieved that "big swinging..." was used, not "erectus humongus" :shock:
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Postby trackworld » Tue Apr 15, 2008 2:53 pm

dukehjsteve wrote:interesting use of our esteemed President's name in a similar fashion...


The sensor for swearing will overwrite any expletives used, and we end with stupid replacements like 'rectus humungous' for a** & king george bush for the f-word
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Postby tandfman » Tue Apr 15, 2008 3:24 pm

Whose sensor?
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Postby Marlow » Tue Apr 15, 2008 4:55 pm

censor
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Postby gh » Tue Apr 15, 2008 4:59 pm

censor was my original reaction, then I decided the site in question has a "sensor" which automatically swaps out nasty words for some pre-determined alternative.
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Postby stallion » Tue Apr 15, 2008 5:22 pm

Speedbuff wrote:The author of the recent meltdown letter is being threatened with a lawsuit from someone hefty, so he has decided not to publicly own up to writing it. However, people in know have confirmed who wrote the letter.

This strikes me as one of the most ridiculous things I've ever read here. You could have written the letter as far as I know (although I don't believe you did). Furthermore, how do you know who is "in the know?" Next, how do you know that those "in the know" really know? Perhaps only the architect of the letter is aware of his identity. Without omniscience, which presumably you are bereft of, your assertions don't hold much weight with me.
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Postby tandfman » Tue Apr 15, 2008 5:39 pm

gh wrote:censor was my original reaction, then I decided the site in question has a "sensor" which automatically swaps out nasty words for some pre-determined alternative.

Either way, those alternatives would not universally be considered inoffensive.
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Postby kuha » Tue Apr 15, 2008 5:52 pm

It would appear that the letter has a rather Nixonian-era flavor: its intention was to get the nabobs of negativism to natter.
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Postby stallion » Tue Apr 15, 2008 6:07 pm

Speedbuff wrote: It will be interesting to see if someone takes ownership soon. I think they will.

Yes, you thought this yesterday.....Now, with those "in the know" informing you about potential litigation, apparently you've changed your above prediction. I am not impressed.
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Postby Marlow » Tue Apr 15, 2008 6:09 pm

MattMarriott . . . paging MattMarriott . . . please pick up the white courtesy phone. The Illuminati have called for an Emergency PED Conspiracy meeting . . . MattMarriott . . .
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Postby Speedbuff » Tue Apr 15, 2008 7:12 pm

stallion,

Would you care to speculate who wrote the letter if it is not 9.86x4 and 19.77?
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Postby stallion » Tue Apr 15, 2008 7:56 pm

Speedbuff wrote:stallion,

Would you care to speculate who wrote the letter if it is not 9.86x4 and 19.77?

Oh, but I thought you and those "in the know" have confirmed the author's identity...
"The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance -- it is the illusion of knowledge." Daniel Boorstin
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Postby Speedbuff » Tue Apr 15, 2008 9:14 pm

stallion,

It sounds like you know who the author of the letter is as well. Is there really any doubt at this point? I'm sure that Smoke can tell you. Why don't you ask him for confirmation.
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Postby gh » Tue Apr 15, 2008 9:27 pm

Speedbuff wrote:stallion,

Would you care to speculate who wrote the letter if it is not 9.86x4 and 19.77?


If the "letter" included the phrase "four score and...." would we assume it was actually written by Mr. Lincoln?
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Postby JRM » Tue Apr 15, 2008 9:44 pm

gh wrote:
Speedbuff wrote:stallion,

Would you care to speculate who wrote the letter if it is not 9.86x4 and 19.77?


If the "letter" included the phrase "four score and...." would we assume it was actually written by Mr. Lincoln?


It did mention Benedict Arnold. That could be a clue...
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Postby Speedbuff » Tue Apr 15, 2008 10:08 pm

Start with a little chat with "Nawaf." I'll bet he tell you who wrote the letter. If he's not talking, then checkout "Onacrest Drive." You may want to visit "West Angeles Church," too. You could just visit ESPN's favorite track and field website instead.
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Postby Speedbuff » Tue Apr 15, 2008 10:29 pm

One of the other star sprinters in Greene’s Los Angeles based group at the time was Trinidad’s Ato Boldon. Not only were the two athletes training partners but the media also portrayed them for years as close friends.

But that relationship appears to have ended, Hollywood style.

Reached this morning, I asked Boldon about the news reports and rampant speculation on the Internet, to which he replied that unfortunately track & field and gossip go hand in hand. But he did offer a statement, one that reveals the existence of a great schism between the former training partners.

“One thing is clear, that the evidence and the facts will show someone to be a fraud and someone will be vindicated. I will make no further comment regarding this case until such time,” said Boldon

http://www.hellenicathletes.com/news.php?news_id=422

Hmmm. Sounds like someone is quite mad and has been told by counsel to limit his comments. Ya think? Wonder who Ato thinks the "fraud" is?
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Postby SQUACKEE » Wed Apr 16, 2008 2:50 am

Its not Ato Boldon. Its Micheal Boldon and it was sent as a text message from a knoll thats very, very grassy in a Texas city of note.
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Postby tandfman » Wed Apr 16, 2008 4:12 am

gh wrote:
Speedbuff wrote:stallion,

Would you care to speculate who wrote the letter if it is not 9.86x4 and 19.77?

If the "letter" included the phrase "four score and...." would we assume it was actually written by Mr. Lincoln?

Merv? Daniel? :)
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Postby jazzcyclist » Wed Apr 16, 2008 4:41 am

Speedbuff, you must understand that jackals won't settle for plants once they're had a taste of meat. Last month Allen Johnson came on this board and fed us some raw meat. There's nothing tastier than a direct hit job from an Olympic and World Champion. Perhaps you're not in the position to feed us filet mignon, if you're not a first-hand witness, but can't you at least give us some ground beef. These soybean burgers (third and fourth-hand information) just won't do.
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Postby RAP » Wed Apr 16, 2008 6:21 am

rasb wrote:Mustard in the Conservatory with a Wrench?

What the grassantafranz does that mean?
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Postby Flumpy » Wed Apr 16, 2008 7:31 am

jazzcyclist wrote:Last month Allen Johnson came on this board and fed us some raw meat..


Did he??? About what?
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Postby tandfman » Wed Apr 16, 2008 7:37 am

RAP wrote:
rasb wrote:Mustard in the Conservatory with a Wrench?

What the grassantafranz does that mean?

http://www.boardgames.com/clue.html
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Postby jazzcyclist » Wed Apr 16, 2008 7:44 am

Flumpy wrote:
jazzcyclist wrote:Last month Allen Johnson came on this board and fed us some raw meat..


Did he??? About what?

Look at the five posts by "sub13".
http://mb.trackandfieldnews.com/discuss ... sc&start=0
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Postby EPelle » Wed Apr 16, 2008 9:42 am

gh wrote:If this is indeed written by AB, we're supposed to believe that he trained w/ HSI for a decade and only just now is tumbling to the fact that (alleged) drug abuse was in place? That doesn't ring quite true.

Anybody else remember that AB signed a non-disclosure agreement w/ Victor Conte? At least the SJ Mercury News so said during the BALCO stuff a couple of years back.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_k ... kepm472912


Conte:

“Maurice Greene's coach, John Smith, was in collusion with Trevor Graham to remove me and Balco athletes from the sport,” he claimed. “When Trevor sent the sample of ‘the clear' (THG) to USADA he did so based upon the advice of John Smith.

“I was working with Dwain Chambers, who was consistently beating both Maurice and Tim Montgomery, who was coached by Trevor at the time. Smith and Graham decided to turn in the THG sample and name names purely out of competitive jealousy. It certainly wasn't done as a noble deed.”


Nothing new, but the t:s are now being crossed.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/ ... 746753.ece
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