Jones: 6-Month Sentence


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Jones: 6-Month Sentence

Postby EPelle » Wed Jan 09, 2008 3:09 pm

Karas had asked if he could sentence Jones separately for her two guilty pleas and force her to serve the two prison terms one after the other.

Both sides responded that even if the two crimes were considered separately for sentencing purposes, a range of zero-to-six months would apply under federal sentencing guidelines.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/m ... index.html
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Postby EPelle » Thu Jan 10, 2008 10:31 am

Philip Hersh: Jones should stop trying to pull a fast one.

LA Times

If I were the judge, I would favor leniency on these conditions:

-- That Jones tell the entire truth about her use of performance-enhancing drugs.

-- That a percentage of any future income is garnished until she can return some of the $700,000 the international track federation contends was ill-gotten gain.

-- That she do a substantial amount of community service.

But no more trying the Barry Bonds defense, that she didn't know until 2003 that the substances coach Trevor Graham gave her were banned performance-enhancers.

And no more insisting she used banned substances only in part of 2000 and 2001, which seems highly unlikely because her performances beginning in 1998 were unbelievable, in every sense of the word.
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Postby eldrick » Thu Jan 10, 2008 10:35 am

if she got $700k, then that sheds some light on kajsa's earnings, which i doubt coud have been more than 1/2 of that
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Postby EPelle » Thu Jan 10, 2008 10:46 am

eldrick wrote:if she got $700k, then that sheds some light on kajsa's earnings, which i doubt coud have been more than 1/2 of that

jla offered his input on that.
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Postby eldrick » Thu Jan 10, 2008 11:05 am

he didn't provide a number for the top-earner of the time to work with...
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Postby EPelle » Thu Jan 10, 2008 11:18 am

Which time (year)?
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Postby eldrick » Thu Jan 10, 2008 11:32 am

what sort of stupid question is that ?
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Postby EPelle » Thu Jan 10, 2008 11:42 am

Forget it, man. You read however you want to into things.
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Postby eldrick » Thu Jan 10, 2008 11:49 am

$750k she earned in either just '00 - '01 or for an additional 2y if she'd admitted doping in '01, so that's either 2y or 4y, depending on what time-frame iaaf are referring to
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Postby gh » Thu Jan 10, 2008 11:50 am

OK, you two go stand in the corner as well; no more interchanges from the two of you today.
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Postby Friar » Thu Jan 10, 2008 7:23 pm

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/11/sport ... ref=sports
She made bad decisions, and we become the decisions we make,” said Pat Connolly.

I really don't care how much time she gets. But I do think she's to calculating to waste all that cash: maybe she has a few $$ salted away in a Swiss bank?
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Postby malmo » Thu Jan 10, 2008 7:28 pm

Friar wrote:http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/11/sports/othersports/11jones.html?ref=sports
She made bad decisions, and we become the decisions we make,” said Pat Connolly.

I really don't care how much time she gets. But I do think she's to calculating to waste all that cash: maybe she has a few $$ salted away in a Swiss bank?


I'd say the chances are nil.

If she has, then I'm sure she's committed perjury once again and would be risking her personal liberty for a long long time. She's broke, and she alone is responsible, and she alone will bear the burden.

I'm sure she just wants to get this whole thing behind her and salvage the next chapter of her life.
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Postby EPelle » Thu Jan 10, 2008 10:28 pm

Friar wrote:http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/11/sports/othersports/11jones.html?ref=sports
She made bad decisions, and we become the decisions we make,” said Pat Connolly.

I really don't care how much time she gets. But I do think she's to calculating to waste all that cash: maybe she has a few $$ salted away in a Swiss bank?

Not likely, for the exact reasons malmo states above. She wouldn:t consider it "wasting money", rather "keeping up with the lifestyle" to which she had grown accustomed. That lifestyle proved to include several personal pitfalls outside of the track.
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Postby malmo » Thu Jan 10, 2008 10:47 pm

I'm of the opinion that Marion must have had (or should have had) a "what have I done?" moment. She had the whole world in her hands, yet she surrounded herself with scumbags, hustlers, losers, and enablers etc... and threw it all away - all for nothing! I don't know what Obadele Thompson is like, and don't want to hear about if he's from the same mold as the others. Her collapse was painful to watch. Hopefully when it's all over she recovers to a normal and sane lifestyle in anonymity. It's not such a bad thing to get a job and pay the bills just like everyone else.
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Postby Friar » Fri Jan 11, 2008 2:22 am

All Vanity Fair contributors are given Swiss bank accounts just in case "some heavy shit comes down." Wolcott.

She's done dumb things, but I've never for a moment thought she was stupid.
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Postby EPelle » Fri Jan 11, 2008 2:48 am

What did that philosopher of a mother say, "Stupid is as stupid does"?
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Postby EPelle » Fri Jan 11, 2008 8:13 am

Jones has arrived at courthouse, is "ok".
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Postby gh » Fri Jan 11, 2008 8:43 am

story on front page describes "horde of reporters" waiting for her
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Postby schigh » Fri Jan 11, 2008 9:22 am

6 month sentence.

I know I now feel safer.
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Postby EPelle » Fri Jan 11, 2008 9:25 am

CNN:

Breaking News: Former Olympic track star Marion Jones sentenced to six months in prison for lying about performance-enhancing drug use.
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Postby guru » Fri Jan 11, 2008 9:28 am

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Postby bijanc » Fri Jan 11, 2008 9:30 am

Will "Barry" be sentenced to about the same thing, for the same offense?
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Postby EPelle » Fri Jan 11, 2008 9:31 am

The judge sentenced Jones despite her plea that he not separate her from her children, "even for a short period of time."

"I ask you to be as merciful as a human being can be," she said.

Was six months merciful? Perhaps. However, Karas has not been lenient on any single perjury case to date.
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Re: MJ

Postby guru » Fri Jan 11, 2008 9:32 am

bijanc wrote:Will "Barry" be sentenced to about the same thing, for the same offense?


Did he launder money?

Very little comparison between the two, though the feds do take perjury seriously.
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Re: MJ

Postby tandfman » Fri Jan 11, 2008 9:34 am

guru wrote:
bijanc wrote:Will "Barry" be sentenced to about the same thing, for the same offense?

Did he launder money?

And if he did, did he lie about it?
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Postby bijanc » Fri Jan 11, 2008 9:38 am

I still like Robin Givens in the made-for-t.v. movie.
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Re: MJ

Postby bad hammy » Fri Jan 11, 2008 9:41 am

guru wrote:
bijanc wrote:Will "Barry" be sentenced to about the same thing, for the same offense?

Did he launder money?

He reportedly did a few things the IRS would not be too happy about.
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Postby gh » Fri Jan 11, 2008 9:43 am

official USaTF reaction:

USATF News


Friday, January 11, 2008


USATF statement on the sentencing of Marion Jones
Statement from USA Track & Field President Bill Roe and CEO Craig Masback on the sentencing of Marion Jones to six months in prison:

"Today's sentencing concludes a sad series of events. The revelation that one of the sport's biggest stars took performance-enhancing drugs and repeatedly lied about it, in addition to being a party to fraud, has no silver lining. But, it is a vivid morality play that graphically illustrates the wages of cheating in any facet of life, on or off the track. We hope that all Americans will take to heart those lessons. The sport of track and field in the United States has moved on since Marion Jones competed, reaching even higher levels of success, as a team, than when she was at her peak. No one wanted to see this happen, and we hope that Marion and her family can move on as well."




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Postby guru » Fri Jan 11, 2008 10:23 am

ESPN's lawdog Roger Cossack weighs in.

http://sports.espn.go.com/broadband/vid ... Id=2378529
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Postby gh » Fri Jan 11, 2008 10:36 am

nice link---thanks!
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Postby EPelle » Fri Jan 11, 2008 10:39 am

No speakers on this laptop... can you provide the jist of the video?
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Postby observer2 » Fri Jan 11, 2008 10:55 am

short version: "don´t lie!"
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Postby gh » Fri Jan 11, 2008 11:02 am

long version---i really don't speak very well; I should have written this down instead of going on camera.
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Postby EPelle » Fri Jan 11, 2008 11:09 am

IAAF hopes Jones can help them help others avoid same mistakes:

"There is a lot of sadness for Marion and her family," IAAF spokesman Nick Davies said after Jones was sentenced for lying about her steroid use and her knowledge of a separate check fraud case.

"Six months in prison is a lot," Davies told Reuters by telephone from IAAF headquarters in Monte Carlo. "But you do hope that it will be a deterrent to others.

"Hopefully when she is out of prison she can help the IAAF and other organisations to ensure that other people don't follow the path that she certainly followed.

"It (her doping) has certainly hurt the image of the sport."

http://sport.guardian.co.uk/breakingnew ... 52,00.html
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Postby trackstar » Fri Jan 11, 2008 11:18 am

A quote that come to mind today as I heard the news:

"At one point, I thought life was about acquiring things. But as a I get older, life is totally about losing everything." – Mike Tyson
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Postby MattMarriott » Fri Jan 11, 2008 11:32 am

Nobody ever taught poor Marion Jones that there can be only one excuse to pact with the devil: gain time before striking back,
Reminder - the only one worldwide to have explained her "confession"
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.cons ... 3f172aa42d
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Postby bad hammy » Fri Jan 11, 2008 11:37 am

Makes perfect sense to me - thanks Matt . . .

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Postby dukehjsteve » Fri Jan 11, 2008 11:41 am

malmo wrote:I'm of the opinion that Marion must have had (or should have had) a "what have I done?" moment. She had the whole world in her hands, yet she surrounded herself with scumbags, hustlers, losers, and enablers etc... and threw it all away - all for nothing! I don't know what Obadele Thompson is like, and don't want to hear about if he's from the same mold as the others. Her collapse was painful to watch. Hopefully when it's all over she recovers to a normal and sane lifestyle in anonymity. It's not such a bad thing to get a job and pay the bills just like everyone else.


Your best post of the year malmo.
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Postby tafnut » Fri Jan 11, 2008 11:47 am

Masback wrote:The revelation that one of the sport's biggest stars took performance-enhancing drugs and repeatedly lied about it, in addition to being a party to fraud, has no silver lining.


I beg to differ: the SL is that one of the sport's biggest stars took performance-enhancing drugs and repeatedly lied about it, in addition to being a party to fraud, and she went down and is now humiliated and bankrupt. Care to give PEDs a shot? If only 1% of the possible future cheats is dissuaded, there's the SL (in one huge dark threatening thundercloud).
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Postby EPelle » Fri Jan 11, 2008 12:00 pm

She hopes she can make a difference in the future:

Outside the court, she told reporters: "As everyone can imagine, I'm very disappointed.

"But as I stood in front of all of you for years in victory, I stand in front of you today. I stand for what is right.

"I respect the judge's order, and I truly hope that people will learn from my mistakes."

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