Jon wrote: mump boy wrote:
i'm a little bit with eldy
ludmilla enquist had the best tecnique i can remember. of course drugs can help your spead but they can't help your trail leg.
And I agree with the technique point, too.
But there have been loads of hurdlers throughout the years with awesome technique and no speed - and that only gets you so far. Engqvist needed speed to bring her down to the 12.2 level (she already had the technique) and she could gain that extra edge by taking drugs.
i'd esimate drug improvement in the event is small
now, with flat-sprinting, virtually all the strength gain from drugs goes into increased speed & for a rough estimate, i'd wager no more than ~0.3s ( i think the max improvement a natural 11.0 gal is likely to get to with them is maybe 10.7 ( & for those who don't believe that marion wasn't at least a natural 11.0 gal, needs their head examining )
now, with hurdles, it's speed + technique
at best, drugs have a small effect on latter,but still all the speed increase
how much improvement to ascribe ?
i'd say 1/2 to 2/3 of that of a flat sprinter's improvement of 0.3s
for donkey with her 12.21, that woud mean something like
12.21 + ( 1/2 of 0.3s to 2/3 of 0.3s ) = ~ 12.36 - 12.41 naturally
for nazy, with her 12.26, = ~ 12.41 - 12.46 naturally
that is immense natural talent & couda won every recent global except '04