Not quite sure how Andrieu admitting his EPO use back then helps clean up the sport today, but it does keep his name in the media, which he seems to think is important.
Why was this morning:s thread - a New York Times-based article - removed? No comments were issued on the story, just a quote and substance which indicated that Armstrong was not being called into question surrounding these two confessions.
perhaps because this is an athletics-centred doping forum ?
i thoght rules stated that non-athletics doping was not to be discussed here ?
This Forum was created to divert traffic from Current Events at the height of the BALCO scandal. After a deactivation period it was brought alive again for the Gatlin/Jones controversies. We're happier when it's shut
( largesse obviously extended to landis case which is worldwide-profile & apparently goes to usada next week )
The Andreu stuff is old news. He has been making these claims for a few years now. If there was anyone who would know whether Lance was using in 99, it would be Frankie, who was Lance's Lieutenant for a few years.
MJR wrote:The Andreu stuff is old news. He has been making these claims for a few years now. If there was anyone who would know whether Lance was using in 99, it would be Frankie, who was Lance's Lieutenant for a few years.
He says in the recent articles that he never saw L.A. take anything illegal.
Snation wrote:The Yahoo commentary went awry when it suggested Armstrong might be responsible for the testicular CA he suffered.
I think that is going too far. First, it is speculative LA used steroids. And second, that would be a very uncommon side effect.
And uncommonly quick in developing. If using it for 3-4 years, as most, would lead to cancer right then we would have lots of dead athletes before they are thirty.
I am a huge LA fan but could some please address the fact that a doper helped him win the 99 tour and launch his incredible string? How important was Andrieu to that win?
MJD wrote:I am a huge LA fan but could some please address the fact that a doper helped him win the 99 tour and launch his incredible string? How important was Andrieu to that win?
Would you consider a middle-distance world record tainted in some way if it turned out the pacemaker was on drugs? That's the closest T&F analogy I can think of.
MJD wrote:I am a huge LA fan but could some please address the fact that a doper helped him win the 99 tour and launch his incredible string? How important was Andrieu to that win?
Would you consider a middle-distance world record tainted in some way if it turned out the pacemaker was on drugs? That's the closest T&F analogy I can think of.
you coud say yes
a perfect pacer can provide close to 1s/lap advantage if the main athlete drafts in "perfectly" behind them
if a peak ramzi has a doped pacer who can take him thru the bell in an incredible 2'30, & ramzi holds on for a 3'25, then a lot of the record coud have been attributed to the pacer
kamikaze7 wrote:Lance Amstrong is the Pete Rose of cycling. he will deny deny deny and then finally cave in someday.
The difference is that Pete Rose continued to deny even after they found the smoking gun - gambling receipts with his fingerprints on them. In Armstrong's case, no such smoking gun has yet been found.
