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Postby RJMB_1 » Sun Sep 10, 2006 1:43 am

A link only on this messsage but worth reading http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/athletics/5325262.stm
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Postby Snation » Sun Sep 10, 2006 8:54 am

Read the link above. Very good job by the BBC!
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Postby Snation » Sun Sep 10, 2006 9:07 am

There is a controversy in 'Blood' --a medical journal-- about testing for rhEPO.

The link is here: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/quer ... t=Abstract
Reponses include Don Catlin, and the scientists who originated the test.

You cannot view the reports unless you subscribe to Blood, or use a medical library that does. If you could view the article, you would see photos of the electrophoresis of EPO and rhEPO.

It is dense reading. Incredibly technical. And the photos of what these guys are iintrepreting...it is not like looking at bullet hole in a body. Very subtle.
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Postby 26mi235 » Sun Sep 10, 2006 1:04 pm

Snation, I do not know who you are and I can only guess at your background, but thank you for coming and providing your opinions and knowledge for us to read.
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Postby Snation » Sun Sep 10, 2006 2:57 pm

Thanks, man.

I am learning alot from posters here, too.

How can I post a jpg image? I might be able to download an image of an rhEPO so people could see how it looks.
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Postby EPelle » Sun Sep 10, 2006 10:20 pm

Copy the html and .jpg properties, and post them as such above between the img tags, but no spaces.

Example: Image
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Postby 26mi235 » Mon Sep 11, 2006 8:10 am

On the topic of the EPO test there seems to be a rather common misconception, which is in evidence in comments by Deena Kastor. The duration of identifiable rEPO is relatively brief, often given as 48 to 72 hours. This feature is cited as one reason for its utilization.

The commenter makes the mistaken inference that if a sample is kept a little bit longer the rEPO signal will deteriorate. It is the difference between what happens metabolically versus when in cold storage. Note that th eFrench lab test 6-year old urine samples and it was reported that a number of those tested provided an indication of rEPO.
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