Has there been any effort to bring back the low hurdles? I think the existing records are Don Styron, 21.9 on straightaway and Glenn Davis, 22.5 on the curve. Other sports are always trying new events at the Olympics (witness skiing, snowboarding) why not track?
I think any modern pro hurdler whose livelihood requires being tuned to a fine edge does him/herself nothing but harm by working on a different stride pattern over a different-height hurdle. Bad idea all around
Not to denigrate the good hurdlers who historically did well in the event, but having run it once in high school, my take is that it was an event for sprinters that happened to have a few bumps on the course. Speed ate up hurdling talent every day.
gh wrote:Not to denigrate the good hurdlers who historically did well in the event, but having run it once in high school, my take is that it was an event for sprinters that happened to have a few bumps on the course. Speed ate up hurdling talent every day.
My senior (HS) year I ran it in practice for the 180LH, in 24.7 - better than I thought I would - our discontinued SR was 25.3. I was only 3rd fastest sprinter on the team (10.4y/23.0y), so I was very grateful for an event that I could win. It helped that my stride length was exactly right for the 20y spacing.
This is how the all-time list for the low hurdles on a straight looks. Notice that Styron had 9 of the top 18 performances at the time the event died a death (1962). While the event was beneficial to sprinters (Sime) it was more of a hurdlers event - only Dillard (who also happened to be the best High Hurdler) was also a world class sprinter, though Roberson was a 9.5y man. As hurdlers tend to be the most co-ordinated of athletes I would probably disagree with GH that the event (on a straight or curve) was likely to damage 110 hurdlers [though I have no evidence for such a statement]
220y Hurdles Straight course 21.9m 1.4 Don Styron USA 18Mar40 178/67 1 Baton Rouge 2/4/60 22.1m Elias Gilbert USA 14Jan36 180/70 1 Raleigh 17/5/58 22.1m -0.9 Styron 1 Modesto 28/5/60 22.1m Styron 1 Modesto 27/5/61 22.2m 1.4 Dave Sime USA 25Jul36 188/84 1 Durham 5/5/56 22.2m 1.3 Ancel Robinson USA 12Sep33 180/70 1 Austin 15/6/57 22.2m Calvin Cooley USA 2Apr39 180/79 1 Abilene 16/4/60 22.2m Styron 1 Natchitoches 12/5/60 22.2m Styron 1 Compton 3/6/60 22.2m Styron 1 Dayton 3/6/61 22.3mA Harrison Dillard USA 8Jul23 178/70 1 Salt Lake City 21/6/47 22.3m Robinson 1 Fresno 25/4/57 22.3m Fran Washington USA 1Feb36 187/79 2 Raleigh 17/5/58 22.3m Dick Howard USA 22Aug35 185/80 2 Abilene 16/4/60 22.3m Styron 1 Baton Rouge 23/4/60 22.3m Styron 1 Lake Charles, LA 21/5/60 22.3m Styron 1 Logan 13/5/61 22.3m Irvin "Bo" Roberson USA 23Jul35 185/84 2 Modesto 27/5/61
Nice list, posted by Rhymans, for 200m / 220 yd hurdles including 22.3mA Harrison Dillard USA 8Jul23 178/70 1 Salt Lake City 21/6/47.
I was in the Salt Lake City stadium and saw Dillard's 1947 win which, at that time, was to me the most remarkable athletics effort I had seen. I remember the altitude uncomfortably after jogging there.
But some things fade as now I don't remember it being a metric (22.3m) event. I thought the NCAA standard of that era was yards, not meters about which I was then unfamiliar. The 1952 USA Olympic Trials was probably my first look at metric distances.
Which 200m guys from today would be able to remain below the 22.55 of Laurent Ottoz? And (yes hypothetical) I'd further like to know how fast a healthy Merrit would have been able to run the 200 hurdles in 2012
Maybe Tremmel would have been slightly faster over the 200 hurdles, but as for Merrit, let's not forget that it is virtually impossible to run 110 hurdles in 12.80 if you do not have a speed below 10.10 over the 100m (probably even faster)
Marlow recalls, doubtless errantly: "My senior (HS) year I ran it in practice for the 180LH, in 24.7 - better than I thought I would - our discontinued SR was 25.3. I was only 3rd fastest sprinter on the team (10.4y/23.0y)"
Marlow, Surely that was a 220 yd. time as I can assure you a 10.4 100 yd. time would put you well down into 21s for the 180 LH. That's what I was running as a young (14) Frosh, and never went over 22. As a Soph, I ran behind Elias Gilbert (19.8) at the Englewood Relays (NJ), 20.5. I'd typically run mid-25s in the 220 LH in NJ All-comers meets in Elizabeth, sometimes against Dave Sime, who'd turned up for the 100.
Note that both Elias and Fran Washington were coached by Hurdler's Bible author, Wilbur Ross, at Winston Salem (NC). Ross also recruited Russ Rogers from NJ, a hotbed of HS hurdling back then, starting w/ Milt Campbell at Plainfield (1950-53). As I've posted before, Elias was right behind Milt at Compton when they ran 13.4 & 13.5 respectively, to tie (?) Jack Davis's WR.