Long Jump Slump ?


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Long Jump Slump ?

Postby jhc68 » Fri Aug 16, 2013 9:50 pm

Much has been made of the woeful state of the men's long jump in the WC posts and lots of other threads here over several years.
But how bad is the long jump in historical perspective?

If we use Peter O'Connor's 1901 record as a benchmark (7.61 m / 24-11.5), two things stand out to me.
First, that was a hell of a long jump under the circumstances which prevailed 102 years ago.

Second, despite professionalism, vastly improved training techniques, world-wide participation and modern facilities and equipment, the men's LJ WR has only increased @ 18% in a century.

On average, a 1.3cm per year improvement. That includes the current 22 year drought of WR and the 25 year span from Owens to Boston with no WR improvement (Yeah, I know there was a World War for 6 of those years, but a new WR was set less than 3 years after the conclusion of WWI.)

Just seems we shouldn't be surprised if progress in this event continues in long, slow cycles.
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Re: Long Jump Slump ?

Postby lapsus » Sat Aug 17, 2013 9:00 am

mikli made some interesting analysis of top 100 averages progression in different events a few years back:

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=31194

It seems that long jump is one of the events where the improvement in yearly averages stopped in the late 80s or early 90s. The averages did not get better any more, but neither did they get worse. Instead, the apparent slump was caused by the fact that the likes of Powell, Pedroso and especially Lewis were rare individuals who were still nearly as much ahead of their time as Bob Beamon's 890 was in 1968, and after they retired the very top level marks fell.

It would be great if mikli found the time to update his calculations as years go by - perhaps that could give some idea if the general level of the event starts improving again after staying flat for over 20 years.
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Re: Long Jump Slump ?

Postby user4 » Sat Aug 17, 2013 11:10 am

lapsus wrote:mikli made some interesting analysis of top 100 averages progression in different events a few years back:

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=31194

It seems that long jump is one of the events where the improvement in yearly averages stopped in the late 80s or early 90s. The averages did not get better any more, but neither did they get worse. Instead, the apparent slump was caused by the fact that the likes of Powell, Pedroso and especially Lewis were rare individuals who were still nearly as much ahead of their time as Bob Beamon's 890 was in 1968, and after they retired the very top level marks fell.

It would be great if mikli found the time to update his calculations as years go by - perhaps that could give some idea if the general level of the event starts improving again after staying flat for over 20 years.



Pedrosa was really a remarkable LJer, one of the very few guys that were consistently beyond 8.50 for more than a few years but doing so without extraordinary speed. I loved Pedrosa's arc, he really got up there. Id rather watch Pedrosa jump 8.5 than see King Carl sprint 100mph down the runway and pick his feet up to an 8.7 any day.
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Re: Long Jump Slump ?

Postby Gleedaniel13 » Wed Aug 21, 2013 3:56 am

I think nowadays we have already been setting the longest jump ever. Our athletes now are very flexible.
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Re: Long Jump Slump ?

Postby JumboElliott » Wed Aug 21, 2013 11:32 am

Ten or so months from now, Mike Powell will officially have held the world record in the long jump for longer than Beamon.
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Re: Long Jump Slump ?

Postby AFTERBURNER » Wed Aug 21, 2013 11:33 am

JumboElliott wrote:Ten or so months from now, Mike Powell will officially have held the world record in the long jump for longer than Beamon.


Agreed, and it will probably be still standing in 2020.
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