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400m brothers?

Postby Dixon » Thu Aug 08, 2013 6:57 am

We had the Harrisons and the Borlees. Now give me four more 400m brothers.
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Re: 400m brothers?

Postby Jackaloupe » Thu Aug 08, 2013 8:27 am

I've already posted on the Smith Bros., from Lincoln, NJ, HS: Josea, Zinneford and Louis. Along with Richie Simms, they stirred MSG crowds in many a Mile Relay. Dunno about college and thereafter, but surely you'll make an exception to your implicit guidelines when there were 3.

Surely the Styron twins, NE Louisiana, ran some relays when they weren't tearing up the 220 Low Hurdles.
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Re: 400m brothers?

Postby Dixon » Thu Aug 08, 2013 9:29 am

Jackaloupe wrote:I've already posted on the Smith Bros., from Lincoln, NJ, HS: Josea, Zinneford and Louis. Along with Richie Simms, they stirred MSG crowds in many a Mile Relay. Dunno about college and thereafter, but surely you'll make an exception to your implicit guidelines when there were 3.

Surely the Styron twins, NE Louisiana, ran some relays when they weren't tearing up the 220 Low Hurdles.


I am talking at the collegiate level but any brothers tantums will work :D

We can add sprint/hurdle brothers as well. I can think of...hmmm?...seven. Don and Dave wasn't it?

How about one is in the baseball Hall of Fame the other an Olympic medalist? Then we have an Olympic gold medalist and an NFL Hall of Famer?
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Re: 400m brothers?

Postby KDFINE » Thu Aug 08, 2013 10:06 am

Mal and Mel Spence.
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Re: 400m brothers?

Postby Dixon » Thu Aug 08, 2013 7:16 pm

KDFINE wrote:Mal and Mel Spence.


There's one. Former ASU 4x4ers.
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Postby Jackaloupe » Thu Aug 08, 2013 7:45 pm

Beat me to it w/ Mal & Mel, as I was hustling to get on the road to Eugene, for my big ol' DISH!
I met them in AridZoney for a USC/Arizona Dual Meet (Remember those?).
I was already a huge Jamaica fan. They didn't yet know Al Phillips, a transplant from Kingston to Montclair, NJ; Al won State, Group IV, in both sprints, also scoring in LJ (I was the only one to garner 3 Golds that year, 1955, but that was the vastly inferior Group I, with Al's time 9.4, mine N. of 10 flat.)
Al weighed 140 then, ballooned to 200 as a Coach for Jamaica's OlyTeam at Los Angeles, dying of a heart attack soon thereafter.
For me, his memorable quote still applies: When asked (by me, already learning to concentrate not on the Gun, nor the drive from the blocks as some had it, but getting out first) what he thought of while in the blocks. His savvy reply, "Tape, Mon, Tape!" Too bad he's not still coaching in Jamaica...
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Re: 400m brothers?

Postby Dixon » Thu Aug 08, 2013 10:05 pm

Interesting stuff :D

Didn't the brothers run for different countries in the 60 Olympics?
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Postby fasttrak85 » Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:55 am

Ashley Spencer and her sister. Not brothers but siblings.

Also TBO and her sister Victoria O( TBO JR)
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Re: 400m brothers?

Postby KDFINE » Fri Aug 09, 2013 9:10 am

There were two different Mal Spence's. Mal and Mel were from the BWI. Then there was the South African bronze medalist Mal.
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Re: 400m brothers?

Postby Dixon » Fri Aug 09, 2013 1:11 pm

KDFINE wrote:There were two different Mal Spence's. Mal and Mel were from the BWI. Then there was the South African bronze medalist Mal.


I could be wrong but think I saw where one of the brothers ran on a BWI 4X4 team while the other on a Jamaican 4x4 team. Don't reacall a SA 4x4 team.
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Postby KDFINE » Fri Aug 09, 2013 2:07 pm

In 1960 South Africa's Spence won the bronze in 45.5. There wasn't a Jamaican relay team, or at least they weren't called that but competed as the West Indies. Only one of the Spence brothers ran on their bronze medal relay team. They ran Mal Spence, Jim Weddurburn, Keith Gardner and George Kerr. Jamaica's Mal Spence was 5th in the open semi. South Africa's relay team was 4th in the final finishing a full second out of third. They ran Ed Jeffreys, Edgar Davis, Gordon Day and Mal Spence. Mel Spence did not run in the 1960 Olympics. In 1964 neither brother ran in the individual 400, but they ran the second and third legs on what was by then called Jamaica's 4th place relay team. I haven't any idea as to what other islands may have been on the WI team. Perhaps it was just a name change. I do know that Bahamas wasn't a part of it as Tom Robinson competed in both Olympics for the Bahamas.
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Postby Dixon » Fri Aug 09, 2013 2:35 pm

KDFINE wrote:In 1960 South Africa's Spence won the bronze in 45.5. There wasn't a Jamaican relay team, or at least they weren't called that but competed as the West Indies. Only one of the Spence brothers ran on their bronze medal relay team. They ran Mal Spence, Jim Weddurburn, Keith Gardner and George Kerr. Jamaica's Mal Spence was 5th in the open semi. South Africa's relay team was 4th in the final finishing a full second out of third. They ran Ed Jeffreys, Edgar Davis, Gordon Day and Mal Spence. Mel Spence did not run in the 1960 Olympics. In 1964 neither brother ran in the individual 400, but they ran the second and third legs on what was by then called Jamaica's 4th place relay team. I haven't any idea as to what other islands may have been on the WI team. Perhaps it was just a name change. I do know that Bahamas wasn't a part of it as Tom Robinson competed in both Olympics for the Bahamas.


So that's how it went, hey thanks man appreciate that :D I never really delved into more of a...hmmm?
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Postby bambam » Fri Aug 09, 2013 4:16 pm

KDFINE wrote:I haven't any idea as to what other islands may have been on the WI team. Perhaps it was just a name change. I do know that Bahamas wasn't a part of it as Tom Robinson competed in both Olympics for the Bahamas.


The West Indies Federation team in 1960 was composed of athletes from Jamaica, Trinidad, and Barbados, as follows:

Athletics - 7 - 5 JAM, 1 TRI, 1 BAR
Cycling - 1 - 1 TRI
Sailing - 2 - 2 TRI
Shooting - 2 - 2 JAM
Weightlifting - 1 - 1 BAR
Total - 13 - 7 JAM, 4 TRI, 2 BAR

The Barbadian runner was Jim Wedderburn, who was on the 4x400 relay team. The other 3 members of the team were Jamaican - Mal Spence, George Kerr, Keith Gardner. The other 3 WIF athletes were: Clifton Bertrand (TRI), Paul Foreman (JAM), and Dennis Johnson (JAM).
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Re: 400m brothers?

Postby cullman » Fri Aug 09, 2013 4:33 pm

The Mills Brothers...Curtis & Marvin, Texas A&M.
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Re: 400m brothers?

Postby Dixon » Fri Aug 09, 2013 5:30 pm

cullman wrote:The Mills Brothers...Curtis & Marvin, Texas A&M.


Here we have the 400 man and the short sprinter, not that Marvin didn't run the 4x4.
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Re: 400m brothers?

Postby KDFINE » Fri Aug 09, 2013 6:40 pm

Thanks Bambam. I knew Wedderburn and Betrand ran for NYU. I didn't know where Weddurburn was from, but knew that Betrand was Trinidad.
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Re: 400m brothers?

Postby gh » Fri Aug 09, 2013 7:08 pm

cullman wrote:The Mills Brothers...Curtis & Marvin, Texas A&M.


3 ran (this from an Aggie site):

<<An Aggie Family

Since 1967 seven members of the Mills family of Lufkin, Texas, the children and grandchildren of Mr. and Mrs. Curtis Mills, have attended Texas A&M University.

Curtis Beamon Mills ('71) entered Texas A&M in 1967, one of the first African-Americans to receive an athletic scholarship. He lettered in track four years (1968-71), set or helped set eleven school records, won seven SWC titles and was All-American four years. In 1979, he became the first African-American inducted into the Texas A&M Athletic Hall of Fame.

Marvin Mills ('73) entered Texas A&M in 1969. He lettered in track four years (1970-73), held or co-held nine school records, won several SWC titles and was All-American in 1970. In 1997, Marvin Mills was inducted into the Texas A&M Athletic Hall of Fame. Tyshekia, Marvin's daughter, graduated from A&M in 1993, and Michael, his son, is currently on the track team.

Wayne Mills ('74), like his brothers, ran track at Texas A&M from 1972-73, lettering both years. Lester Mills ('77) arrived after his brothers left and did not participate in athletics. >
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Re: 400m brothers?

Postby JayIsMe » Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:03 pm

Dixon wrote: How about one is in the baseball Hall of Fame the other an Olympic medalist?


Must be Jackie and Mack.
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Re: 400m brothers?

Postby Dixon » Fri Aug 09, 2013 9:35 pm

JayIsMe wrote:
Dixon wrote: How about one is in the baseball Hall of Fame the other an Olympic medalist?


Must be Jackie and Mack.


Bingo!
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Re: 400m brothers?

Postby cullman » Sat Aug 10, 2013 1:09 am

Dixon wrote: Then we have an Olympic gold medalist and an NFL Hall of Famer?

Rafer and Jimmy Johnson.
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