Flop + Straddle Aggregate


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Flop + Straddle Aggregate

Postby The Fern » Sat May 29, 2004 5:11 am

Who has the best total height having jumped both flop and straddle? I thik it might be close between Dwight 7'8" and 7'1", and Pat Matzdorf at 7'6" and 7'3" (I think that was his flop). I am humbled but proud at 7'2" and 6'8". I know a lot of us did both. Put up the numbers.
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Re: Flop + Straddle Aggregate

Postby bigfish » Sat May 29, 2004 9:01 am

This thread begs another question. Whatis the highest ever jumped not using the flop?
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Re: Flop + Straddle Aggregate

Postby gh » Sat May 29, 2004 9:28 am

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Re: Flop + Straddle Aggregate

Postby The Fern » Sat May 29, 2004 5:56 pm

Of course ther is the Flop + Scissor aggregate, the greatest of which I am aware of is Patrik Sjoberg at 7'11" and 7'1". That would be hard to beat. He told me at a meet in New York at Columbia U that his best scissor was 2.15.
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Re: Flop + Straddle Aggregate

Postby gh » Sat May 29, 2004 9:43 pm

2.15? Any of our Swedish people back that up? Sounds pretty fantastical to me.
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Re: Flop + Straddle Aggregate

Postby mrbowie » Sat May 29, 2004 10:58 pm

The 7'1" figure is the result of confusion to the the language barrier. The Swede undoubtedly thought the question was "How high have you jumped carrying a pair of scissors?"
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Re: Flop + Straddle Aggregate

Postby The Fern » Sun May 30, 2004 2:45 am

He had just WALKED over 2.05 with the scissor along with everyone else in the comp that day. It was kind of a challenge to them all after Hollis Conway did it. It was a thing to behold. I pulled him over as he came off the pit and I asked him as I was laughing, "Patrick, how high have you scissored?"
To that he smiled and replied, "2.15." I had also heard along the high jump superhighway that Carlo Thranhardt and Dietmar Moegenberg could also scissor 2.15. Seriously he cleared it by heaps.

And there's more. In all my coaching and jumping I have found that there is about a 30-35 cm difference between what you can scissor and what you can flop, IF you have taken the time to become proficient at the scissors. It works with High Schoolers who have learned the flop from the scissors (There's no other way really), and it works up to the highest levels.
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Re: Flop + Straddle Aggregate

Postby Per Andersen » Sun May 30, 2004 12:07 pm

The Fern is right. A 2.15 Scissors for Sjoeberg is not outrageous. A 30cm differential sounds about right.
Since there is more reason for Floppers to scissor in practice than for the Straddlers of old, many of the modern jumpers become quite proficient at Scissoring. I coach a young jumper who has done 7ft and he easily scissors 6'1" and that's a 28 cm differential.
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