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Re: high jump history questions

Postby Jackaloupe » Sat Jun 15, 2013 7:45 pm

Well, compared to today's cushy, spongy landing pits, yes; but it was not all that "dangerous", as the technique made for a groundroll off the lead foot, not a "clump" on your back. I jumped a foot lower, but still HJ was not a problem; PV was much dicier. I still have a stiff lower back muscle on one side, form HS sand; and only 11 ft. at that.
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Re: high jump history questions

Postby jhc68 » Sat Jun 15, 2013 10:02 pm

Jack is right, not nearly as dangerous as you might think. I jumped in sawdust pits from 7th-12th grades and never saw anyone get seriously hurt.
Of course no one would have been dumb enough to try a back layout technique even if we had thought about it.
We did a lot of shoveling to keep the sawdust pile high and fluffed up... but the worst part was all that sawdust in every crease and wrinkle in your body that no amount of showering could ever quite remove.
Best part was if the sawdust was piled between haybales that you could move around and jump from... if you made the haybale stacks staircase up just right you could clear 7 feet!
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Re: high jump history questions

Postby Dietmar239 » Mon Jun 17, 2013 3:38 am

Heck, I still have a back injury that haunts me to this day from flopping on one of those UCS pits in junior high. Some "nice person" took the pad off the top and I landed right between the pits on concrete. Yes, concrete. We only used the high school track for our meets but during our training, asphalt and concrete was our daily lot in life.
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Re: high jump history questions

Postby jhc68 » Mon Jun 17, 2013 6:29 pm

Yikes! The scariest HJ situations I have seen are exactly as Dietmar describes: multi-part foam cube arrays that are meant to be held together with buckles and straps and a cover on top. Often the couplings break or the cover is ripped or gone completely or the pit is just plain too small. Then inexperienced jumpers launch themselves in trajectories that result in an off the pit landing or a bounce off the edge into whatever lies beyond or trapped between the loose cubes. Gimme a sawdust pile and a straddle technique anyday in terms of safety.
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Re: high jump history questions

Postby Jackaloupe » Mon Jun 17, 2013 6:52 pm

if you made the haybale stacks staircase up just right you could clear 7 feet!

Good one, 'jhc': You're memories coincide with my own. One day at USC--maybe Bobby Avant even partook--we hauled over some Ramp someone had out there for some purpose, just to experiment: The leverage it provided was considerably more than it's height, ~6 inches. So, yeah, we were approaching what seemed stratospheric, aka Bobby Avant's & Charley Dumas's normal heights.
That was right before that Russian introduced the built-up, Rocker shoe--which was promptly outlawed.
Bet you'll get a kick out of this one: At Masters Meets, I occasionally take a break from Throws and head over to the HJ. After first dealing w/ the dilemma of wearing or doffing my glasses--which I once broke upon landing--I try to ignore the ridiculously high (for us) landing pit: it's most strange to be in the middle of your modest roll around the (quite low, ~4 ft.) bar, only to encounter the immense plastic spongemats, hardly a "pit".
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Re: high jump history questions

Postby Marlow » Mon Jun 17, 2013 6:59 pm

gh wrote:film like that mainly serves to remind me how much flopping sucks, aesthetically .

Depends on one's perspective, I guess. Here's D-W-I-G-H-T looking pretty cool.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVbsrVAM1zs
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Re: high jump history questions

Postby jhc68 » Mon Jun 17, 2013 7:43 pm

Look carefully at Marlow's video link and I am pretty sure that you can see me sitting down at the other end of the coliseum in the last 4-5 seconds of the clip!
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Re: high jump history questions

Postby DoubleRBar » Mon Jun 17, 2013 8:46 pm

I think I was sitting right behind you.
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Re: high jump history questions

Postby Athleticsimaging » Tue Jun 18, 2013 3:24 am

jhc68 wrote:High quality sawdust straddling:

http://www.t3licensing.com/video/clip/48050225_9300.do


Tony Sneazwell training at what could be the University of Melbourne track where Franz Stampfl was his coach. If it's not there, it was somewhere in inner Melbourne, given the architectural exemplar in the background. :P Perhaps AS would know for sure?

Tony was the first Australian to clear 7 feet in 1963 and later that year, upped his national record to 2.20 (7'2")in Tokyo. Unfortunately, he never jumped well in either the '64 or '68 Olympics.
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