White HS sprinters trivia
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1. Wayne Johnson '78 TX 5A HS Champ 2. Casey Combest '98 KY HS Champ 3. Matt Bruno '02 CA HS Champ 4. Jason Leach '84 TX 5A 2nd place 5. Trey Griffin '01 TX 4A HS Champ Of these guys the only one that had any success after high school was Jason Leach.
Back in the day... 41 years worth of days, in fact, Fred Kuller emerged during his senior year at Santiago HS in Orange County, CA. He ran consistent sub-10 sec 100yds, then went on to Santa Ana JC, to the USA/USSR dual meet, to USC and 9.3 (or 9.4?) PR and the WR 440 yd relay team.
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1. Wayne Johnson '78 TX 5A HS Champ 2. Casey Combest '98 KY HS Champ 3. Matt Bruno '02 CA HS Champ 4. Jason Leach '84 TX 5A 2nd place 5. Trey Griffin '01 TX 4A HS Champ Of these guys the only one that had any success after high school was Jason Leach. Yes, but Griifin gets another shot at fame...after playing football at SMU he is in grad school at Texas and has a year of eligibility left (is listed on the horns roster)[quote][/quote]
I'll take the free cup of coffee!... I ran the 100m and 200m in high school, PRs of 10.9s (11.15) and 22.6 (22.91). At the end of the summer of '89 (Canada Games), I had graduated to 400m (49.90). For the next 4 years, I only ran indoors, so never really matched those times, although I had a 300m PR of 36.63 somewhere in there.
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Speaking of runners named Casey, whatever happened to Casey Custer (11.38/23.70), who went to high school in Texas, then went to Florida State?
I had never heard of Casey Custer, but a quick internet check shows her as the Texas HS girls 100m record holder at 11.38.
That might also make her the fastest white American woman sprinter ever. It is something discussed previously with no definitive answer.... ...http://www.trackandfieldnews.com/discus ... t=innocent
Interesting enough. How fast did Susan Shurr (U. of Texas) run the 100? I know her PR in the 200 was 23.29, probably the fastest by a white American; unless I read right, sometime in 1995 or 1996, that Ali McKnight ran 23.15. By the way, I haven't seen this entire thread, but has anyone mentioned Victor Moore, who ranked number 1 in the high school 110H in 1983?
Thanks. I thought Ali's 200 performance was somewhere in the 23.1x range. I guess I'm just too lazy to dig through 22 years of T&FN magazines. Now, the way Jenny Adams' fortunes have been going in the 100H as of late, maybe 2006 is the year she ought to take a crack at the 200, and maybe the flat 100 as well. She should have little trouble bringing her PR (23.51, I believe) much closer to or under 23.00.
Indeed. You figure by now someone in this country, like Jenny, would get inspiration from someone like Ivet Lalova, and try the open sprints. The fact that she was able to run 12.63 in the 100H only leads me to conclude that maybe she is capable of running 11.20/23.00.
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Long time since I posted anything on this thread. And since then, Jenna Prandini ran 11.34 in 2010, and there have been rumblings about a girl named Hannah Cunliffe, who ran 11.71 in 2010 and 11.92 this year. What school is Jenna going to? It might make a difference between running 11.1x or faster, or staying in the 11.3-11.5 range by the time she graduates.
Re: White HS sprinters triviaHere's good white sprinter trivia for you... someone tell us who John Mostyn is.
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1959, wind-legal 9.3 in a high school dual meet for Bergen Catholic. A day later they realized the distance was 95 yards.
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Very, very good dj, but my memory says it was a bigger meet.... Englewood Invitational. And it sure got ballyhooed for a day in the newspapers !
Re: White HS sprinters triviaYeah, you're right about it not being a dual meet. I think I'm confusing this with another Jersey sprinter with a screwy time. Jerry Krumeich? No doubt I'll wake up at 3 in the morning with the answer.
Re: White HS sprinters triviaIt was in fact The Englewood Memorial Meet. This meet was one of the biggest on the East Coast until the early 1960s. It was scheduled a couple of weeks before most state meets and participants from Boston to Washington D.C. would converge at Englewood, N.J.which is about 6 miles from NYC.
In those days lines on dirt tracks were lime. At the starting area, deep in the shute (remember those?) were a number of starting lines for the various events. Apparently the starter or clerk brought the kids to the wrong line. When the race finished and everyone looked at their watches and exchanged their findings with those around them the crowd went nuts. Of course no one could remember which line was used. Mostyn pulled very shortly afterwards, ending his senior season. I believe he entered a seminary shortly afterwards, never running again. Every once in a while The Record, the area's newspaper revisits the story. Mostyn was a fine sprinter, but a 9.3 was a bit quick, even for him.
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If I'm remembering the story correctly, the entire field broke 10.0. The odd thing I've never understood was why the there would have been a starting line drawn at 95 yards. Was it mismeasured? That's less common than a starter using the wrong line. But the only markings likely to have appeared at that point on the track would have been the marks for the second flight of the 120y high hurdles. I don't recall hurdle marks being laid down as a solid line across the track.
Re: White HS sprinters triviaNot the only 95-yard race I've ever heard of.
Gotta remember that this was in the days when the (dirt) track had to be lined before every meet, and it certainly wasn't done by a surveyor. Heck, in many cases, probably done by the third assistant football coach, who read the markings on the curb and ran the hopper across the track. Can easily see a solid line going at a hurdle placing. After that he says, "oops; doesn't make any difference" and leaves it as such.
Re: White HS sprinters triviaI never thought about the line at 95 yds. I do remember my father who was officiating at the meet saying that there were countless lines at the start. He took a look at the end of the meet, as he was handling the high jump that day. Mostyn had in fact broke 10 seconds in the 100 yd dash before that meet.
Getting slightly off the subject about markings on dirt tracks. On the same track, a little more than a decade later, the staggers in the two outside lanes were drastically off. I realized it early in the meet when I noticed the first two legs in the novice 880 relay in the outside legs running ridiculously fast 220s. In the finals of the 440 the two kids in the outside lanes both broke 50 seconds for the first time. In fact neither had broken 52 at that point. They were ecstatic. As a young assistant coach of the host track I held my tongue. As the season continued both runners went back to running 52 seconds. I spoke to one of the athletes the next week. His attitude was that he had done it once and he was determined to show that it wasn't a fluke. He ended up completing the season running 50 point. The next year he ran in the low 49s and maybe in the 48s. The other runner, a senior, got more frustrated as the season went on. He ended up running 53. The next year I told the first runner what had really happened. He ended up having a good laugh. I never did search out the second runner. What I did learn was the importance of psychology in coaching and how different people perceive things. It was a great lesson for a young coach.
Re: White HS sprinters triviaWayne went to the University of Texas and was scheduled to run in the 1980 Olympics with Johnny Lamb Jones but received a knee injury returning a kick off return for the Texas Long Horns.Johnny Lamb Jones won a gold metal in the 440 relay in the Olympics. Wayne beet all of Johnny Lamb Jones' es records in High School. They both attended the University of Texas.Johnny Lamb Jones was 1 or 2 years to Wayne Johnson's senior at Texas University in Austin.
Re: White HS sprinters triviaI'm a local so I should know, but I don't:
What's the Track status of Nick Stoner, who won last spring's Indiana HS 100 and 200( anchored winning 1600 R too) bringing Center Grove HS to a state title along with Austin Mudd's 800/1600 double ( Mudd ran 1600 R too). I know he went to IU on a football scholarship and played football this fall for IU. 2 questions.... How did he do in football ? Think he was slated as a defensive halfback. What's the status of a continuing running career ?
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He started out as a cornerback but then switched to wide receiver. http://iuhoosiers.cstv.com/sports/m-foo ... ick00.html He's not on their current track roster.
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Let's clear up some mythology here. Johnson ran 9.3w and 20.6w, both hand timing. He ran an altitude-aided 10.42 in '82. Jones ran in the '76 Olympics (when Johnson was still a 16-year-old soph), so neither of them was "scheduled" to run in the '80 Olympics.
Re: White HS sprinters triviadj, gh...midshipman, Clay Stackhouse ('90) was at/near 9.3 or 9.4 as a high school athlete, iirc. I have to imagine that if not for his Naval Academy/Heptagonal affiliation that he may have run faster (he also played football). 10.43 PB
Re: White HS sprinters triviaDoesn't ring right, if for no other reason than that "nobody" was running 100y races by the mid-'80s. He doesn't show on the '86 HS 100m list,which goes all the way to 10.61. (and 10.2 hand/windy).
Can't speak to the 10.43; best that Tilastopaja lists is a 10.49 at the '90 Penn Relays.
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That's the ONLY mark they list for him. I really don't regard Tila as a source of complete info before the late '90's. He could conceivably have run a 10.43 at a dual meet that Tila never put in their data base when they were going back to the pre-Tila era. Unfortunately, the FAST annuals for those years don't go below 10.40 in the 100. So this is not an easy thing to check. Like you, I am very skeptical of the 9.3-9.4 claim. Just doesn't ring true.
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