I really can't understand why it is such a big deal to talk about white people as a group, but it is no big deal at all to talk about black people.
It is very much a double-standard.
Why can't you just let it be? Why does it bother you so much, that you have to chime in and say that this discussion shouldn't take place and is a waste of time.
That isn't very open-minded or democratic.
There are jobs for thought and speech police in N. Korea, Iran, Nazi Germany...but there shouldn't be here.
As far as white HS sprinters for the past 30 years...here's a list for fun:
1. Wayne Johnson '78 TX 5A HS Champ
2. Casey Combest '98 KY HS Champ
3. Matt Bruno '02 CA HS Champ
4. Jason Leach '84 TX 5A 2nd place
5. Trey Griffin '01 TX 4A HS Champ
1. Wayne Johnson '78 TX HS Champ
2. Matt Bruno '02 CA HS Champ
3. Jeremy Wariner '02 TX HS Champ
1. Anthony Tufariello '79 NY HS Champ
2. Chip Rish '84 & '85 CA HS Champ
3. Jeremy Wariner '02 TX HS Champ
1. Stever Kerho '84 CA HS Champ
2. Dan Lavitt '76 MO HS Champ
3. Joe Galeano '87 NY HS Champ
Guys like Forest Beaty, Jerry Bright, Dave Masters, Mark Lutz, Dave Mills, Sammy Dierschke, etc....I don't know how good they were in HS...before my time. Although Beaty was HS AOY, so he's probably the best.
Thanks for the list.
I would like to add , one very important detail, that is this: none of the ones you mentioned got laid as much as Rish in California and that means a lot to me. Therefore I think he should be one of the all time great sprinters.
Jason Leach ran about 4 manual ten flat(10.0) hundred meter dashes. 10.41 legal(in New Mexico) back in 84. In 83 John Patterson ran a 46.0 in the 400 at texas state.Trey Griffen ran 10.31w to win texas 4a state championship in 2001.Trey will also compete on the track for the horns this year.Bobby Jack Goforth ran 13.70 at the 85 texas relays (13.7 to win 3a state in 84) in the 110hh. Martin Dossett ran 13.59(110hh) in 1997.Texas has had many fast white sprinter\hurdlers.I'm not really sure why many of these guys don't pursue sprint glory any further than the high school level.I KNOW if these guys tried,they would enjoy success at what ever level they trained and competed.
firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:Bobby Jack Goforth ran 13.70 at the 85 texas relays (13.7 to win 3a state in 84) in the 110hh.
Terry, getting to watch your brother and Bobby Jack duel every week in the hurdles was incredible. What a rivalry! I think my dad still has some photos of them running side-by-side. To this day, I still maintain that Tony had the best hurdling form I've ever seen, be it high school, college, or pro. You couldn't have slid a piece of notebook paper between his leg and the hurdle.
He was another one who just didn't perform as well in college as he did in high school.
His times were rather pedestrian his 1st 2 years at UCLA, and then he was kicked off the team. Never heard exactly why.
Back in the day... 41 years worth of days, in fact, Fred Kuller emerged during his senior year at Santiago HS in Orange County, CA. He ran consistent sub-10 sec 100yds, then went on to Santa Ana JC, to the USA/USSR dual meet, to USC and 9.3 (or 9.4?) PR and the WR 440 yd relay team.
Track fan wrote:I bet that doesn't even get you a free cup off cofee........ By the way what did you run?
I'll take the free cup of coffee!... I ran the 100m and 200m in high school, PRs of 10.9s (11.15) and 22.6 (22.91). At the end of the summer of '89 (Canada Games), I had graduated to 400m (49.90). For the next 4 years, I only ran indoors, so never really matched those times, although I had a 300m PR of 36.63 somewhere in there.
Interesting enough. How fast did Susan Shurr (U. of Texas) run the 100? I know her PR in the 200 was 23.29, probably the fastest by a white American; unless I read right, sometime in 1995 or 1996, that Ali McKnight ran 23.15.
By the way, I haven't seen this entire thread, but has anyone mentioned Victor Moore, who ranked number 1 in the high school 110H in 1983?
Can't find a time for Shurr in the 100m.
However, did confirm that Ali McKnight ran a 23.13 in '96, so that is the best 200m as far as I know.
Also discovered that McKnight is a very, very attractive fitness model.
Jacksf wrote:Can't find a time for Shurr in the 100m. However, did confirm that Ali McKnight ran a 23.13 in '96, so that is the best 200m as far as I know. Also discovered that McKnight is a very, very attractive fitness model.
Thanks. I thought Ali's 200 performance was somewhere in the 23.1x range. I guess I'm just too lazy to dig through 22 years of T&FN magazines.
Now, the way Jenny Adams' fortunes have been going in the 100H as of late, maybe 2006 is the year she ought to take a crack at the 200, and maybe the flat 100 as well. She should have little trouble bringing her PR (23.51, I believe) much closer to or under 23.00.
Jacksf wrote:Jenny needs to take up another event....she is stagnating in the hurdles.
Indeed. You figure by now someone in this country, like Jenny, would get inspiration from someone like Ivet Lalova, and try the open sprints. The fact that she was able to run 12.63 in the 100H only leads me to conclude that maybe she is capable of running 11.20/23.00.
deloach wrote:Sammy Dirske sp from Texas was my roomie in a national HS meet in Mt Prospect Ill. He was the Texas state champ and was the fastest or so in the early 70s. ( I was a high jumper back then)Sammy D. held Sealy & local area 100 & 220 yd sprint record until some kid by the name of Eric Dickerson broke his records.. Dennis DeLoach
CookyMonzta wrote:Speaking of runners named Casey, whatever happened to Casey Custer (11.38/23.70), who went to high school in Texas, then went to Florida State?
Long time since I posted anything on this thread. And since then, Jenna Prandini ran 11.34 in 2010, and there have been rumblings about a girl named Hannah Cunliffe, who ran 11.71 in 2010 and 11.92 this year.
What school is Jenna going to? It might make a difference between running 11.1x or faster, or staying in the 11.3-11.5 range by the time she graduates.