White HS sprinters trivia


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Postby mrbowie » Fri Nov 11, 2005 8:09 pm

Jacksf wrote:There is no affirmative action in sports (except for coaches), like there is everywhere else in life, so maybe that's why were here.


Maybe if you read (or even reread) Jonathan Swift's "Gulliver's Travels" you would not carry on so much about white people so much.
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Postby Jacksf » Sat Nov 12, 2005 8:49 am

I really can't understand why it is such a big deal to talk about white people as a group, but it is no big deal at all to talk about black people.
It is very much a double-standard.
Why can't you just let it be? Why does it bother you so much, that you have to chime in and say that this discussion shouldn't take place and is a waste of time.
That isn't very open-minded or democratic.
There are jobs for thought and speech police in N. Korea, Iran, Nazi Germany...but there shouldn't be here.
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Postby mrbowie » Mon Nov 14, 2005 7:30 pm

"I really can't understand why it is such a big deal to talk about white people as a group, but it is no big deal at all to talk about black people."

Where did you ever come up with assumption?

Wouldn't it just be peachy keen if the discussions were limited to athletes and not pseudo antropological meanderings?
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Postby paulthefan » Tue Nov 15, 2005 11:41 am

Wouldn't it just be peachy keen if the discussions were limited to athletes and not pseudo antropological meanderings?


that would mean: wandering outside of the tropics ?.. in which case it should be mango keen
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White sprinters

Postby barry » Tue Nov 29, 2005 9:38 am

I would be curious to know.. I can't think of many great white sprinters. Rish in H.S was great...
who else in college or pro????
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Re: White sprinters

Postby mrbowie » Tue Nov 29, 2005 5:30 pm

barry wrote:I would be curious to know.. I can't think of many great white sprinters. Rish in H.S was great...
who else in college or pro????



They were there, but you have to go a long way back to find them, as non-pale sprinters of West African descent have dominated for decades.

Some of these sun-tan-challenged individuals from California include the following phenoms:

Frank Wycoff
Mel Patton
Charlie Paddock
Forrest Beatty
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Postby Jacksf » Tue Nov 29, 2005 7:19 pm

Here's a previous thread about great white sprinters:
http://www.trackandfieldnews.com/discus ... php?t=7670

As far as white HS sprinters for the past 30 years...here's a list for fun:

100m
1. Wayne Johnson '78 TX 5A HS Champ
2. Casey Combest '98 KY HS Champ
3. Matt Bruno '02 CA HS Champ
4. Jason Leach '84 TX 5A 2nd place
5. Trey Griffin '01 TX 4A HS Champ

200m
1. Wayne Johnson '78 TX HS Champ
2. Matt Bruno '02 CA HS Champ
3. Jeremy Wariner '02 TX HS Champ

400m
1. Anthony Tufariello '79 NY HS Champ
2. Chip Rish '84 & '85 CA HS Champ
3. Jeremy Wariner '02 TX HS Champ

110hh
1. Stever Kerho '84 CA HS Champ
2. Dan Lavitt '76 MO HS Champ
3. Joe Galeano '87 NY HS Champ

Guys like Forest Beaty, Jerry Bright, Dave Masters, Mark Lutz, Dave Mills, Sammy Dierschke, etc....I don't know how good they were in HS...before my time. Although Beaty was HS AOY, so he's probably the best.
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Thanks.

Postby barry » Wed Nov 30, 2005 9:47 pm

Thanks for the list.
I would like to add , one very important detail, that is this: none of the ones you mentioned got laid as much as Rish in California and that means a lot to me. Therefore I think he should be one of the all time great sprinters.
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Postby SQUACKEE » Thu Dec 01, 2005 3:53 am

when i was a senior (1971) in highschool in california the state meet,220, was won by a white dude in 21.1-chuck bommarito sp?
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Kevin Little & Dave Dopek

Postby piaba » Thu Dec 01, 2005 12:55 pm

did anyone mention Kevin Little? former 200 m indoor wold champion. did he represent the US in 4x100 relay teams? don't know what his 100 m best time is.

i seem to recall another 200 m runner named Dave Dopek a few years back.
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Postby terry_brooks35@yahoo.com » Thu Dec 01, 2005 12:57 pm

Jason Leach ran about 4 manual ten flat(10.0) hundred meter dashes. 10.41 legal(in New Mexico) back in 84. In 83 John Patterson ran a 46.0 in the 400 at texas state.Trey Griffen ran 10.31w to win texas 4a state championship in 2001.Trey will also compete on the track for the horns this year.Bobby Jack Goforth ran 13.70 at the 85 texas relays (13.7 to win 3a state in 84) in the 110hh. Martin Dossett ran 13.59(110hh) in 1997.Texas has had many fast white sprinter\hurdlers.I'm not really sure why many of these guys don't pursue sprint glory any further than the high school level.I KNOW if these guys tried,they would enjoy success at what ever level they trained and competed.
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Postby trackstar » Thu Dec 01, 2005 1:13 pm

terry_brooks35@yahoo.com wrote:Bobby Jack Goforth ran 13.70 at the 85 texas relays (13.7 to win 3a state in 84) in the 110hh.


Terry, getting to watch your brother and Bobby Jack duel every week in the hurdles was incredible. What a rivalry! I think my dad still has some photos of them running side-by-side. To this day, I still maintain that Tony had the best hurdling form I've ever seen, be it high school, college, or pro. You couldn't have slid a piece of notebook paper between his leg and the hurdle.
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Postby Jacksf » Thu Dec 01, 2005 6:51 pm

[quote="SQUACKEE"]when i was a senior (1971) in highschool in california the state meet,220, was won by a white dude in 21.1-chuck bommarito sp?[/quote

Bommarito was the last white to win a short sprint at the CA HS championships until Bruno came along.
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Postby SQUACKEE » Fri Dec 02, 2005 3:47 am

Jacksf wrote:
SQUACKEE wrote:when i was a senior (1971) in highschool in california the state meet,220, was won by a white dude in 21.1-chuck bommarito sp?[/quote

Bommarito was the last white to win a short sprint at the CA HS championships until Bruno came along.


thanx jack, how fast did Bruno run?
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Postby Jacksf » Fri Dec 02, 2005 7:21 am

Bruno was a convincing winner at the CA HS championships in 10.55 and 20.82.
Interestingly, Reggie Bush, the likely Heisman winner this year was 3rd in 10.74.
http://www.dyestat.com/state/ca/2out/statemeet/r-10.htm
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Postby SQUACKEE » Fri Dec 02, 2005 7:43 am

Jacksf wrote:Bruno was a convincing winner at the CA HS championships in 10.55 and 20.82.
Interestingly, Reggie Bush, the likely Heisman winner this year was 3rd in 10.74.
http://www.dyestat.com/state/ca/2out/statemeet/r-10.htm


bruno is a rock! i dont recall seeing thighs like those on a sprinter. a football player or shotputter but not century man.
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Postby paulthefan » Fri Dec 02, 2005 8:25 am

SQUACKEE wrote:
Jacksf wrote:Bruno was a convincing winner at the CA HS championships in 10.55 and 20.82.
Interestingly, Reggie Bush, the likely Heisman winner this year was 3rd in 10.74.
http://www.dyestat.com/state/ca/2out/statemeet/r-10.htm


bruno is a rock! i dont recall seeing thighs like those on a sprinter. a football player or shotputter but not century man.



He probably should have chosen football.
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Bruno

Postby barry » Fri Dec 02, 2005 9:18 am

What happened to Matt Bruno? Did he ever run the 400 open?
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Postby Jacksf » Fri Dec 02, 2005 10:31 am

He was another one who just didn't perform as well in college as he did in high school.
His times were rather pedestrian his 1st 2 years at UCLA, and then he was kicked off the team. Never heard exactly why.

As far as I know he never ran the 400.
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Postby Littlemac » Fri Dec 02, 2005 6:46 pm

100m
1. Wayne Johnson '78 TX 5A HS Champ
2. Casey Combest '98 KY HS Champ
3. Matt Bruno '02 CA HS Champ
4. Jason Leach '84 TX 5A 2nd place
5. Trey Griffin '01 TX 4A HS Champ


Of these guys the only one that had any success after high school was Jason Leach.
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Postby jhc68 » Sat Dec 03, 2005 5:53 pm

Back in the day... 41 years worth of days, in fact, Fred Kuller emerged during his senior year at Santiago HS in Orange County, CA. He ran consistent sub-10 sec 100yds, then went on to Santa Ana JC, to the USA/USSR dual meet, to USC and 9.3 (or 9.4?) PR and the WR 440 yd relay team.
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Postby Track fan » Sun Dec 04, 2005 10:35 am

I can see a National enquirer story years from now, I blew away Reggie Bush......... :lol:
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Postby harvtrack » Tue Dec 06, 2005 5:04 pm

100m
1. Wayne Johnson '78 TX 5A HS Champ
2. Casey Combest '98 KY HS Champ
3. Matt Bruno '02 CA HS Champ
4. Jason Leach '84 TX 5A 2nd place
5. Trey Griffin '01 TX 4A HS Champ


Of these guys the only one that had any success after high school was Jason Leach.

Yes, but Griifin gets another shot at fame...after playing football at SMU he is in grad school at Texas and has a year of eligibility left (is listed on the horns roster)[quote][/quote]
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Postby JRM » Tue Dec 06, 2005 8:24 pm

I was the top white high school sprinter in New Brunswick in 1988-89, for what's it worth... :P
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Postby Track fan » Tue Dec 06, 2005 9:06 pm

I bet that doesn't even get you a free cup off cofee........ :lol: By the way what did you run?
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Postby JRM » Tue Dec 06, 2005 9:19 pm

Track fan wrote:I bet that doesn't even get you a free cup off cofee........ :lol: By the way what did you run?


I'll take the free cup of coffee!... I ran the 100m and 200m in high school, PRs of 10.9s (11.15) and 22.6 (22.91). At the end of the summer of '89 (Canada Games), I had graduated to 400m (49.90). For the next 4 years, I only ran indoors, so never really matched those times, although I had a 300m PR of 36.63 somewhere in there.
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Re: White HS sprinters trivia

Postby CookyMonzta » Wed Dec 07, 2005 12:03 am

basehead617 wrote:Re Casey Combest:

Here's a good article about him from last year:

http://www.courier-journal.com/cjsports ... 367746.htm

was he that good? 6.57 60m high school record which still stands (from 3/14/99).. you be the judge..

im not sure of his 100m PR but i know he had a FAT 10.2x in the following outdoor season, and a 10.1 hand timed. fast white boy!


Speaking of runners named Casey, whatever happened to Casey Custer (11.38/23.70), who went to high school in Texas, then went to Florida State?
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Postby Jacksf » Wed Dec 07, 2005 10:16 am

I had never heard of Casey Custer, but a quick internet check shows her as the Texas HS girls 100m record holder at 11.38.

That might also make her the fastest white American woman sprinter ever.
It is something discussed previously with no definitive answer....

...http://www.trackandfieldnews.com/discus ... t=innocent
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Postby Jacksf » Sat Dec 10, 2005 7:28 pm

Well Matt Bruno certainly has something to tell his kids one day, now that Reggie Bush has won the Heisman....
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Postby mrbowie » Sat Dec 10, 2005 8:59 pm

Next to reruns of Saturday Night Light, my second favorite form of late night entertainment is catching up on my honky sprinter trivia.
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Postby Jacksf » Sat Dec 10, 2005 10:18 pm

I enjoy it anytime.... ;-)
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Postby CookyMonzta » Sat Dec 10, 2005 10:57 pm

Jacksf wrote:I had never heard of Casey Custer, but a quick internet check shows her as the Texas HS girls 100m record holder at 11.38.

That might also make her the fastest white American woman sprinter ever.
It is something discussed previously with no definitive answer....

...http://www.trackandfieldnews.com/discus ... t=innocent

Interesting enough. How fast did Susan Shurr (U. of Texas) run the 100? I know her PR in the 200 was 23.29, probably the fastest by a white American; unless I read right, sometime in 1995 or 1996, that Ali McKnight ran 23.15.

By the way, I haven't seen this entire thread, but has anyone mentioned Victor Moore, who ranked number 1 in the high school 110H in 1983?
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Postby Jacksf » Sun Dec 11, 2005 7:11 am

Never heard of Victor Moore before, but did confirm he was ranked #1 by T&FN in '83 with wins at Golden West, Golden South, and a best of 13.69.
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Postby Jacksf » Sun Dec 11, 2005 7:13 am

Can't find a time for Shurr in the 100m.
However, did confirm that Ali McKnight ran a 23.13 in '96, so that is the best 200m as far as I know.
Also discovered that McKnight is a very, very attractive fitness model.
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Postby CookyMonzta » Sun Dec 11, 2005 9:45 pm

Jacksf wrote:Can't find a time for Shurr in the 100m.
However, did confirm that Ali McKnight ran a 23.13 in '96, so that is the best 200m as far as I know.
Also discovered that McKnight is a very, very attractive fitness model.

Thanks. I thought Ali's 200 performance was somewhere in the 23.1x range. I guess I'm just too lazy to dig through 22 years of T&FN magazines.

Now, the way Jenny Adams' fortunes have been going in the 100H as of late, maybe 2006 is the year she ought to take a crack at the 200, and maybe the flat 100 as well. She should have little trouble bringing her PR (23.51, I believe) much closer to or under 23.00.
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Postby Jacksf » Fri Dec 16, 2005 8:10 pm

Jenny needs to take up another event....she is stagnating in the hurdles.
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Postby CookyMonzta » Wed Dec 21, 2005 12:19 am

Jacksf wrote:Jenny needs to take up another event....she is stagnating in the hurdles.

Indeed. You figure by now someone in this country, like Jenny, would get inspiration from someone like Ivet Lalova, and try the open sprints. The fact that she was able to run 12.63 in the 100H only leads me to conclude that maybe she is capable of running 11.20/23.00.
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Re: White HS sprinters trivia

Postby jcox964 » Sat Nov 05, 2011 9:03 pm

deloach wrote:Sammy Dirske sp from Texas was my roomie in a national HS meet in Mt Prospect Ill. He was the Texas state champ and was the fastest or so in the early 70s. ( I was a high jumper back then)Sammy D. held Sealy & local area 100 & 220 yd sprint record until some kid by the name of Eric Dickerson broke his records.. 8-)
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Re: White HS sprinters trivia

Postby CookyMonzta » Sun Nov 06, 2011 11:12 am

CookyMonzta wrote:Speaking of runners named Casey, whatever happened to Casey Custer (11.38/23.70), who went to high school in Texas, then went to Florida State?

Long time since I posted anything on this thread. And since then, Jenna Prandini ran 11.34 in 2010, and there have been rumblings about a girl named Hannah Cunliffe, who ran 11.71 in 2010 and 11.92 this year.

What school is Jenna going to? It might make a difference between running 11.1x or faster, or staying in the 11.3-11.5 range by the time she graduates.
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