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White HS sprinters trivia
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Maybe if you read (or even reread) Jonathan Swift's "Gulliver's Travels" you would not carry on so much about white people so much.
I really can't understand why it is such a big deal to talk about white people as a group, but it is no big deal at all to talk about black people.
It is very much a double-standard. Why can't you just let it be? Why does it bother you so much, that you have to chime in and say that this discussion shouldn't take place and is a waste of time. That isn't very open-minded or democratic. There are jobs for thought and speech police in N. Korea, Iran, Nazi Germany...but there shouldn't be here.
"I really can't understand why it is such a big deal to talk about white people as a group, but it is no big deal at all to talk about black people."
Where did you ever come up with assumption? Wouldn't it just be peachy keen if the discussions were limited to athletes and not pseudo antropological meanderings?
Wouldn't it just be peachy keen if the discussions were limited to athletes and not pseudo antropological meanderings?
that would mean: wandering outside of the tropics ?.. in which case it should be mango keen
"I really can't understand why it is such a big deal to talk about white people as a group, but it is no big deal at all to talk about black people."
Where did you ever come up with assumption? For starters, just take a look at the news. Here's a quick sample in 5 minutes time: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/h ... .weeks.ap/ http://www.blackathlete.net/main.shtml http://goldsea.com/Personalities/Athletes/athletes.html http://www.asiansportsnet.com/ http://www.vaildaily.com/article/200511 ... /111030057 http://www.tampabay.com/entertainment/s ... yid=157047 http://www.blackdragracers.com/ http://www.nytimes.com/2005/11/09/nyreg ... ffalo.html http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/ ... Mayor.html http://www.wsoctv.com/news/5283108/detail.html http://science.monstersandcritics.com/n ... t_director http://www.afdim.org/news.php http://www2.whdh.com/news/articles/local/BOS8751/
White sprinters
I would be curious to know.. I can't think of many great white sprinters. Rish in H.S was great...
who else in college or pro????
Re: White sprinters
They were there, but you have to go a long way back to find them, as non-pale sprinters of West African descent have dominated for decades. Some of these sun-tan-challenged individuals from California include the following phenoms: Frank Wycoff Mel Patton Charlie Paddock Forrest Beatty
Here's a previous thread about great white sprinters:
http://www.trackandfieldnews.com/discus ... php?t=7670 As far as white HS sprinters for the past 30 years...here's a list for fun: 100m 1. Wayne Johnson '78 TX 5A HS Champ 2. Casey Combest '98 KY HS Champ 3. Matt Bruno '02 CA HS Champ 4. Jason Leach '84 TX 5A 2nd place 5. Trey Griffin '01 TX 4A HS Champ 200m 1. Wayne Johnson '78 TX HS Champ 2. Matt Bruno '02 CA HS Champ 3. Jeremy Wariner '02 TX HS Champ 400m 1. Anthony Tufariello '79 NY HS Champ 2. Chip Rish '84 & '85 CA HS Champ 3. Jeremy Wariner '02 TX HS Champ 110hh 1. Stever Kerho '84 CA HS Champ 2. Dan Lavitt '76 MO HS Champ 3. Joe Galeano '87 NY HS Champ Guys like Forest Beaty, Jerry Bright, Dave Masters, Mark Lutz, Dave Mills, Sammy Dierschke, etc....I don't know how good they were in HS...before my time. Although Beaty was HS AOY, so he's probably the best.
Thanks.
Thanks for the list.
I would like to add , one very important detail, that is this: none of the ones you mentioned got laid as much as Rish in California and that means a lot to me. Therefore I think he should be one of the all time great sprinters.
Kevin Little & Dave Dopek
did anyone mention Kevin Little? former 200 m indoor wold champion. did he represent the US in 4x100 relay teams? don't know what his 100 m best time is.
i seem to recall another 200 m runner named Dave Dopek a few years back.
Jason Leach ran about 4 manual ten flat(10.0) hundred meter dashes. 10.41 legal(in New Mexico) back in 84. In 83 John Patterson ran a 46.0 in the 400 at texas state.Trey Griffen ran 10.31w to win texas 4a state championship in 2001.Trey will also compete on the track for the horns this year.Bobby Jack Goforth ran 13.70 at the 85 texas relays (13.7 to win 3a state in 84) in the 110hh. Martin Dossett ran 13.59(110hh) in 1997.Texas has had many fast white sprinter\hurdlers.I'm not really sure why many of these guys don't pursue sprint glory any further than the high school level.I KNOW if these guys tried,they would enjoy success at what ever level they trained and competed.
Terry, getting to watch your brother and Bobby Jack duel every week in the hurdles was incredible. What a rivalry! I think my dad still has some photos of them running side-by-side. To this day, I still maintain that Tony had the best hurdling form I've ever seen, be it high school, college, or pro. You couldn't have slid a piece of notebook paper between his leg and the hurdle.
[quote="SQUACKEE"]when i was a senior (1971) in highschool in california the state meet,220, was won by a white dude in 21.1-chuck bommarito sp?[/quote
Bommarito was the last white to win a short sprint at the CA HS championships until Bruno came along.
thanx jack, how fast did Bruno run?
Bruno was a convincing winner at the CA HS championships in 10.55 and 20.82.
Interestingly, Reggie Bush, the likely Heisman winner this year was 3rd in 10.74. http://www.dyestat.com/state/ca/2out/statemeet/r-10.htm
bruno is a rock! i dont recall seeing thighs like those on a sprinter. a football player or shotputter but not century man.
He probably should have chosen football. Last edited by paulthefan on Fri Dec 02, 2005 9:37 am, edited 1 time in total.
He was another one who just didn't perform as well in college as he did in high school.
His times were rather pedestrian his 1st 2 years at UCLA, and then he was kicked off the team. Never heard exactly why. As far as I know he never ran the 400.
100m
1. Wayne Johnson '78 TX 5A HS Champ 2. Casey Combest '98 KY HS Champ 3. Matt Bruno '02 CA HS Champ 4. Jason Leach '84 TX 5A 2nd place 5. Trey Griffin '01 TX 4A HS Champ Of these guys the only one that had any success after high school was Jason Leach.
Back in the day... 41 years worth of days, in fact, Fred Kuller emerged during his senior year at Santiago HS in Orange County, CA. He ran consistent sub-10 sec 100yds, then went on to Santa Ana JC, to the USA/USSR dual meet, to USC and 9.3 (or 9.4?) PR and the WR 440 yd relay team.
100m
1. Wayne Johnson '78 TX 5A HS Champ 2. Casey Combest '98 KY HS Champ 3. Matt Bruno '02 CA HS Champ 4. Jason Leach '84 TX 5A 2nd place 5. Trey Griffin '01 TX 4A HS Champ Of these guys the only one that had any success after high school was Jason Leach. Yes, but Griifin gets another shot at fame...after playing football at SMU he is in grad school at Texas and has a year of eligibility left (is listed on the horns roster)[quote][/quote]
I'll take the free cup of coffee!... I ran the 100m and 200m in high school, PRs of 10.9s (11.15) and 22.6 (22.91). At the end of the summer of '89 (Canada Games), I had graduated to 400m (49.90). For the next 4 years, I only ran indoors, so never really matched those times, although I had a 300m PR of 36.63 somewhere in there.
Re: White HS sprinters trivia
Speaking of runners named Casey, whatever happened to Casey Custer (11.38/23.70), who went to high school in Texas, then went to Florida State?
I had never heard of Casey Custer, but a quick internet check shows her as the Texas HS girls 100m record holder at 11.38.
That might also make her the fastest white American woman sprinter ever. It is something discussed previously with no definitive answer.... ...http://www.trackandfieldnews.com/discus ... t=innocent
Interesting enough. How fast did Susan Shurr (U. of Texas) run the 100? I know her PR in the 200 was 23.29, probably the fastest by a white American; unless I read right, sometime in 1995 or 1996, that Ali McKnight ran 23.15. By the way, I haven't seen this entire thread, but has anyone mentioned Victor Moore, who ranked number 1 in the high school 110H in 1983?
Can't find a time for Shurr in the 100m.
However, did confirm that Ali McKnight ran a 23.13 in '96, so that is the best 200m as far as I know. Also discovered that McKnight is a very, very attractive fitness model.
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