Lindgren-Mills 6 mile at AAU Champs 1965


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Lindgren-Mills 6 mile at AAU Champs 1965

Postby aaronk » Mon May 21, 2012 4:56 pm

Actually, the whole meet!!
But that Gerry Lindgren-Billy Mills 6M was the best!!

Here you had a kid who'd emerged in 1964.....
running a 2M against Jim Ryun, winning in 9:00.
(Ryun fell, ran 9:23!)
Then he ran a HS record, 8:46 (which I saw in person!!),
then the still-standing 8:40.0!!
Outdoors, he ran a 13:44.0 5K at Compton (also attended!!),
followed by the 29:17.6 10K against the USSR (Yep, saw that too!).
Mills??
A 27:54 6M in Aug '64 at Pierce Col. vs Ron Larrieu!!
( I RAN in that race!!!! 37:11.3, my then-PR, and was lapped 6 times!!!
But each time they passed, I sped up to run with them!!!)

Then Mills....um....won the Olympics!!!!

So by June '65, we had a 19 year old frosh at WSU and the 1964 Oly 10K Champ!!
You couldn't pick a favorite......because they BOTH were so likeable!!!!
And what a race!!!!
Neck and neck all the way!!
Mills led, but Gerry tried time and time again to take the lead, only to have Billy hold him off.....barely!!
Mills said he thought Gerry was tiring.....because he was wheezing so much!!!
Finally, still together with 1 lap to go, they sprinted!!
Both ran around 57.9 for that last lap!!
Remember, this was June 1965.....
BEFORE Ron Clarke went from 28:14 down to 27:39 in the 10K!!
So Mills and Lindgren set a WORLD RECORD!!


Also saw HS'er Jim Ryun beat the UNBEATABLE Peter Snell, with his 3:55.3!! (Snell ran 3:55.4!!!)
Then there was Murray Halberg's 3 mile in 13:10!!!
What a meet!!
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Re: Lindgren-Mills 6 mile at AAU Champs 1965

Postby kuha » Mon May 21, 2012 5:06 pm

If you could bottle those eye-witness memories, you'd have many buyers, that's for sure. Great stuff, indeed.
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Re: Lindgren-Mills 6 mile at AAU Champs 1965

Postby runforlife » Wed May 23, 2012 2:06 pm

kuha wrote:If you could bottle those eye-witness memories, you'd have many buyers, that's for sure. Great stuff, indeed.

Totally agree. But then I think we each have our own great memories over 40-50 years of attending many track meets. What makes them so great is that they are OURS!!
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Re: Lindgren-Mills 6 mile at AAU Champs 1965

Postby huntinwr » Wed May 23, 2012 3:15 pm

I thought Bob Schul won the 3-mile in 13:10 at that meet. By the way, has anyone ever seen a video of the Lindgren/Mills battle?
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Re: Lindgren-Mills 6 mile at AAU Champs 1965

Postby DrJay » Wed May 23, 2012 6:00 pm

So what was the winning time?
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Re: Lindgren-Mills 6 mile at AAU Champs 1965

Postby dj » Wed May 23, 2012 7:15 pm

DrJay wrote:So what was the winning time?


27:11.6 (actually 27:11.5 for Mills, 11.6 for Lindgren)
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Re: Lindgren-Mills 6 mile at AAU Champs 1965

Postby kuha » Wed May 23, 2012 7:18 pm

...worth about 28:08 metric, I would guess, which was well under the then-10,000 WR.
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Re: Lindgren-Mills 6 mile at AAU Champs 1965

Postby Dave » Thu May 24, 2012 2:22 pm

aaronk wrote:Actually, the whole meet!!
.......
Also saw HS'er Jim Ryun beat the UNBEATABLE Peter Snell, with his 3:55.3!! (Snell ran 3:55.4!!!) ......
What a meet!!


Is there any recorded reaction by Snell to this? Snell must have been absolutely dumbfounded. Would he have had any reason to know just how good Ryun was?

I remember watching Webb beat Ryun's HS record at Pre a few years ago. Some time later, I read how graciously El Guerrouj treated Webb when he saw Webb prior to the race.
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Re: Lindgren-Mills 6 mile at AAU Champs 1965

Postby catson52 » Thu May 24, 2012 3:15 pm

Great victory to Ryun, but Snell was scarcely unbeatable in 1965. He lost a number of races, some pretty badly. I was on hand in Toronto to see Crothers outrun him in a 800/880. By the time he faced Ryun in the mile, he was in (pretty) good form.
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Re: Lindgren-Mills 6 mile at AAU Champs 1965

Postby kuha » Thu May 24, 2012 4:37 pm

I think in his autobiography Snell made a comment to the effect that, in 1965, he raced himself out of shape. It's not exactly right, but Snell's 1965 is roughly comparable to Ryun's 1972: flashes of brilliance, but they weren't the runners they'd been in previous years.
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Re: Lindgren-Mills 6 mile at AAU Champs 1965

Postby gh » Thu May 24, 2012 8:36 pm

as I recall the Snell biography, he revealed that he never trained after Tokyo. The only "training" he did in '65 was residual shape from a late-'64 peak and using races as his training.

I remember the race in Vancouver in May/June of '65 in which he lost to not one but two high schoolers (name the first!) (and neither was Ryun, despite popular lore). Saw it on live TV in B.C., and he was marvelous post-race, taking the mike and apologizing to the crowd for putting on such a pitiful display.
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Re: Lindgren-Mills 6 mile at AAU Champs 1965

Postby EastBayprepoftheweek67 » Thu May 24, 2012 9:08 pm

gh wrote:as I recall the Snell biography, he revealed that he never trained after Tokyo. The only "training" he did in '65 was residual shape from a late-'64 peak and using races as his training.

I remember the race in Vancouver in May/June of '65 in which he lost to not one but two high schoolers (name the first!) (and neither was Ryun, despite popular lore).


Terry Dooley. Bingo.
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