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Seeking help on historical NCAA Ch attendance data

Postby Mighty Favog » Tue Dec 27, 2011 11:10 am

I'm in the process of compiling historical data on attendance at leading domestic track & field competitions. TFN is of course my primary source of data, along with the Oregon T&F media guide, Penn and Drake meet programs, and NCAA Championships reports available at usctrackandfield.com.

Unfortunately, in the late 90s TFN largely abandoned the practice of listing attendance with results (probably because it was too depressing). I presume it was published in Track Newsletter, but getting my hands on that in the pre-2002 era isn't too easy.

I'm looking for help with a day-by-day breakdown of attendance at the NCAA (outdoor) Championships for the following years:
2002
2000
1999
1998
1997
1993
1992

Also, the attendance at the Pre Classic was not published by TFN in 2001, 2000 or 1991, and I'm looking for that as well.
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Re: Seeking help on historical NCAA Ch attendance data

Postby gm » Tue Dec 27, 2011 12:51 pm

Here is 1993: 4,800/5,600/7,130/8.400

I should be able to get the rest when I get home...or not...
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Re: Seeking help on historical NCAA Ch attendance data

Postby Mighty Favog » Wed Dec 28, 2011 12:01 pm

Thank you for your help!
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Re: Seeking help on historical NCAA Ch attendance data

Postby gh » Wed Dec 28, 2011 4:07 pm

Mighty Favog wrote:...
Unfortunately, in the late 90s TFN largely abandoned the practice of listing attendance with results (probably because it was too depressing). ...


I'm guessing that in most cases it simply wasn't ever mad available. That's an era where SIDs are really starting to bail on us as a secondary sport. And the press started staying away in droves, so I suspect that a lot of schools just quit worrying about elemental information like that.
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Re: Seeking help on historical NCAA Ch attendance data

Postby Mighty Favog » Wed Dec 28, 2011 4:34 pm

It wasn't just NCAA competition where that info wasn't reported, but also domestic pro meets and USATF Championships. When it was reported, it was in the story, not in the agate (with the lone exception of Millrose). Even attendance for Penn and Drake were generally not listed in the agate. I'm not complaining so much as just saying why I need some help here.
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Re: Seeking help on historical NCAA Ch attendance data

Postby gh » Fri Dec 30, 2011 3:52 pm

for '92, TN lists only the last day, a suspiciously round 7000.
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Re: Seeking help on historical NCAA Ch attendance data

Postby gh » Sat Dec 31, 2011 3:38 pm

'97: 3816/4045/4308/5464 (17,633)
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Re: Seeking help on historical NCAA Ch attendance data

Postby gh » Sun Jan 01, 2012 8:25 am

'98: 2000/1900/3199/5064 (12,163)

'99: 7124/8455
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Re: Seeking help on historical NCAA Ch attendance data

Postby Mighty Favog » Sun Jan 01, 2012 3:34 pm

gh wrote:for '92, TN lists only the last day, a suspiciously round 7000.
That was in Austin, which I've noticed almost never produces an actual count of tickets sold. This year they gave up a real number for the Texas Relays, but it's the first I can recall.

Thanks for your continued help. I will produce a typically overanalyzed report from the results.
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Re: Seeking help on historical NCAA Ch attendance data

Postby tandfman » Mon Jan 02, 2012 6:58 am

I once remarked to someone in Austin that the Texas Relays crowds seemed to be seriously understated. I was told that this was deliberate--they did not want to create the impression that track and field was at all popular. (Of course, the Texas SID in those days was the guy who was responsible for the quote "the only sport I hate more than track is field." I'd describe this as a legendary quote, but it's no legend--I heard him say it.)
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Re: Seeking help on historical NCAA Ch attendance data

Postby gh » Mon Jan 02, 2012 8:58 am

I heard it too, and he followed up with, "Why, I'd drive 50 miles for a track meet.... in the other direction!"

(the gent in question is the legendary longtime Texas SID Jones Ramsey)
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Re: Seeking help on historical NCAA Ch attendance data

Postby gh » Mon Jan 02, 2012 4:45 pm

no attendance listed in TN for '00 or '02.
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Re: Seeking help on historical NCAA Ch attendance data

Postby lonewolf » Mon Jan 02, 2012 10:12 pm

I don't know what the announced attendance was for Texas Relays and Texas State HS Track championship but back in the day when the track was in Memorial Stadium both meets typically drew 40,000 to 50,000.
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Re: Seeking help on historical NCAA Ch attendance data

Postby Mighty Favog » Thu Jan 05, 2012 9:13 am

gh wrote:no attendance listed in TN for '00 or '02.
LSU's SID just told me their files report a final-day attendance of 3947 for 2002.
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Re: Seeking help on historical NCAA Ch attendance data

Postby Mighty Favog » Thu Jan 12, 2012 1:15 pm

E-mailed from Duke:

2000 NCAA Attendance Data
 
Day 1:    4,870
Day 2:    5,650
Day 3:    8,320
Day 4:    11,635
Total:     30,475
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