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Ben Jipcho St/1500 Double

Postby cubop » Thu Feb 17, 2011 2:39 pm

Didn't Jipcho do a 1500/Steeple one day double back in 73 somewhere in Scandinavia? If my memory serves me well, it was something like 3.36/8.19....I coulds be wrong.
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Re: Ben Jipcho St/1500 Double

Postby br » Wed Sep 18, 2013 8:47 pm

At the DNG in Stockholm on July 2, 1973, Jipcho won the mile in 3:52.17 and the steeple in 8:18.23.
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Re: Ben Jipcho St/1500 Double

Postby Master Po » Thu Sep 19, 2013 3:44 am

br -- Do you (or does anyone else) have an info on what the meet schedule was for those events? It's a great performance, imo, in any case, but I would be really interested to know how close in the meet schedule these two races were. Thanks. :)
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Re: Ben Jipcho St/1500 Double

Postby br » Thu Sep 19, 2013 8:32 am

I don't have an answer to that, but perhaps gh or someone who has a T&FN mag from the summer of 1973 can peruse the pages to see if it was mentioned.
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Re: Ben Jipcho St/1500 Double

Postby br » Thu Sep 19, 2013 9:30 am

I actually do have an answer to Master Po's question. I went into the garage and found the T&FN 1973 I July issue (with Jipcho on the cover). The page 7 article on the Stockholm International reports that Jipcho ran his 3:52.17 on July 2 and then ran 8:18.23 the following day, on July 3. Thus, incredible as it was in 1973, it was not a double.
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Re: Ben Jipcho St/1500 Double

Postby Alan Sigmon » Thu Sep 19, 2013 10:44 am

This was not Jipcho's first fast 2-day double of 1973.

Jipcho had previously run a World Record 8:13.91 steeple at Helsinki on 6/27/73, followed by a 3:36.6 for 3rd in the 1500 (behind Bayi and Wottle) the next day.

But on July 24, he did a 1-day double at the Bislett Games in Oslo, winning 1500m in 3:37.0 and the 5000 in 13:34.6. (And then he ran 8:16.38 for 2 miles the next day, narrowly losing to Emiel Puttemans).

This was better (on the Portuguese Scoring Tables then in common use) than Steve Prefontaine's mile/3-mile double of 3:56.8 and 13:06.4 on Apr. 15 earlier in 1973 (races c. 1 hr. apart).

Jipcho did lots of 2-day doubles, 1-day doubles, and running many races in a short time period.

See the following link for a career race chronology:

http://thegreatdistancerunners.de/BenjaminJipcho.html

Jipcho's "record" for the best 1-day 1500/5000 double lasted for nearly 25 years.

On June 12, 1997, the day before the 100th anniversary of Paavo Nurmi, Paul Bitok won the 1500m at the Paavo Nurmi Games in Turku, Finland in 3:36.87 and 75 minutes later won the 5000m in 13:26.25.

This was to commemorate Nurmi's great 1500/5000 doubles of 1924, the first in June --2 world records; the second in July --2 Olympic gold medals.

Ironically, according to one report, "Even though Bitok competed in two races the way Nurmi did some 70 years ago, he admitted he had never even heard of the Finnish star."

Purely based on times, the best 1500/5000 double was Mo Farah's 3:34.66/13:12.54 wins at the Oxy meet on 5/18/2012.
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Re: Ben Jipcho St/1500 Double

Postby br » Thu Sep 19, 2013 11:43 am

Great info Alan. I see that Gärderud also did the 2-day double in Stockholm, running 3:57.18 for the mile and 8:18.39 in the steeple.
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Re: Ben Jipcho St/1500 Double

Postby Master Po » Sat Sep 21, 2013 3:46 am

thanks Alan, thanks br. Appreciate the contributions -- good stuff!
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Re: Ben Jipcho St/1500 Double

Postby kuha » Sat Sep 21, 2013 6:10 am

I've mentioned this in the past, but will repeat in this context. I met Jipcho in about May of 1975, in Middletown, CT. He was the honorary starter for some minor road race (at Wesleyan U., I'm pretty sure)--he was there because he had some Kenyan connection with a mentor/coach who had since moved to CT (that story is a bit fuzzy now)... At any rate, we got to talking about when the first sub-3:50 mile might be run. I asked him if he thought he could do it--fully assuming that he had the ability. He was a very soft-spoken, modest guy--and responded basically that he certainly hoped he might do it, but that one never knew...
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