Who's on track's Mt. Rushmore?


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Postby bad hammy » Wed Dec 10, 2008 9:15 am

Law dude wrote:I have to mention that Mr. Rushmore, for whom the place in South Dakota was named, was a law dude.

We try not to hold that against him . . .

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Final Four

Postby bijanc » Wed Dec 10, 2008 1:04 pm

W/o looking at the other entries-

Nurmi, Owens, Oerter, Lewis

(and Denver Mt. Crushmore should feature Messrs.Little, Rich "Tombstone" Jackson, Gradishar, and Elway- unless they're only nominating defenders)
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Postby bambam » Wed Dec 10, 2008 3:52 pm

gh wrote:Thorpe, Owens, Nurmi, Didrikson


I thought you always said Thorpe was over-rated. Can't believe no Oerter?
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Re: Who's on track's Mt. Rushmore?

Postby gh » Mon Jul 22, 2013 7:49 pm

the local fishwrap just did this for all the local teams/schools (the 49ers was Walsh, Montana, Lott & Rice), so allow me to bump it.

So you don't have to go back and look, the premise is that you're commissioned to come up with the 4 people who would best represent the sport.

For funsies, if you played this before, don't go back and find your original entry. Come up with a new foursome, and see how they compare.
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Re: Who's on track's Mt. Rushmore?

Postby lonewolf » Mon Jul 22, 2013 8:59 pm

Oerter,, JJK, Lewis, Owens, Thorpe

Taking Pego's lead of not enshrining a living person, I want to revise my list.

Oerter, Owens, Thorpe, Nurmi
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Re: Who's on track's Mt. Rushmore?

Postby aaronk » Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:47 pm

Marlow wrote:
Matt wrote:Stacy Dragila? Are you having a laugh? Olympic gold in its first time as an OG event and WRs in its infancy years does not constitute Rushmore status, I'm afraid - particularly when Isinbayeva has taken the WR to completely different levels just a few seasons later.


Matt, you poor deluded boy - Stacy is BEYOND Mt. Rushmore! If she were up there, she would eclipse whatever other poor schlubs were up there also. She is the stars and the moon and the sun. Her fame and glory exceed all mortal acclaim. Isi is barely worthy of carrying her sportsbra! Prostrate yourself before her awesomeness!


Geez, Marlow!!
And people think I'm creepy and obsessive and over the top about Mary Cain!!
:roll:

Just KIDDING!!
But when I read that, I just HAD to comment on it!!

As for Stacy, I see her as a sort of Moses figure.
She led her people (event) out of bondage.....and led her flock of followers (all those wannabe female vaulters) to the Promised Land (OG Golds and WR's).....
BUT she wasn't allowed to enter (go over 16 feet) with them!! :D

Now, as for putting Mary Cain on Mt Rushmore......... :lol:
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Re: Who's on track's Mt. Rushmore?

Postby Master Po » Tue Jul 23, 2013 4:13 am

Owens, Bikila, Bannister, for certain.
Then probably Nurmi, or maybe Thorpe in place of Nurmi. Bolt comes to mind for this list, but I'll make the excuse that he's still in his career, not that I would need any more evidence to put him up there.

For me, a necessary condition for this list is athletic excellence. But that criteria isn't sufficient -- for my version of this, there has to be some cultural context in which the athlete's accomplishment transcends the sport or changes its horizons of possibility. Thus, Owens, Bikila & Bannister are the ones about which I would be certain.

I realize it's an all-male cast of characters, but that's the way it goes for this answer. Mt. Rushmore is just one location, but T&F is two worlds (at least) -- men's & women's for starters. So, were I to create a women's Mt. Rushmore as well, for me, the list is much less certain. JJK would probably be the only one for which I might be relatively sure.
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Re: Who's on track's Mt. Rushmore?

Postby user4 » Tue Jul 23, 2013 4:42 am

I think you have to have a decathlete on there.
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Postby Marlow » Tue Jul 23, 2013 5:55 am

No Stacy?! Whatchutalkinbout, Willis?

It's Stacy, Bullet Bob, Skeets and Seagren.

D'oh, I forgot Moses, Ryun, Edwards and Oerter

oooh, and Paula, Ashton, JJK, and Owens

and . . . never mind . . . there's just so many.
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Re: Who's on track's Mt. Rushmore?

Postby Brian » Tue Jul 23, 2013 11:58 am

Stella Walsh, Julius Nyerere, the 1980 Soviet field event officiating squad, and John Bosley Ziegler.

This is sculpted on Mt. Controversy, btw.
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Re: Who's on track's Mt. Rushmore?

Postby Brian » Tue Jul 23, 2013 12:01 pm

Hill, Lindstrom, Hendershott, and Fox.

Sculpted by Brian on Mt. Ass-Kiss.
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Postby ridge004 » Tue Jul 23, 2013 1:31 pm

eldrick wrote:i woudn't put any middle distance runner <'70 on there - they didn't have africans to compete against

if you had current depth/talent of africans around in nurmi or bannister's times, they wouda won few if any golds & unlikely been 1st 4'00 miler

if it's going to be a middle distance runner, you've only real got geb or kennster who've competed against a "full" world


Hmm. Kiprugut and Keino were world-ranked for Kenya as early as 1964, if memory serves. And Alain Mimoun and Patrick Al Mabrouk were world-ranked in multiple events in the early 1950's, with Mimoun winning something like four Olympic medals running against guys like Zatopek. Though both are listed as running for France, both were in fact Algeria-born.
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Re: Who's on track's Mt. Rushmore?

Postby TN1965 » Tue Jul 23, 2013 2:02 pm

Nurmi.
Zatopek.
Bikila.
Waitz.

I would not enshrine a living person.
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Re: Who's on track's Mt. Rushmore?

Postby kuha » Tue Jul 23, 2013 3:19 pm

Nurmi
Owens
Bikila
Oerter
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Re: Who's on track's Mt. Rushmore?

Postby Pego » Tue Jul 23, 2013 3:29 pm

TN1965 wrote:Nurmi.
Zatopek.
Bikila.
Waitz.

I would not enshrine a living person.


Playing by the rule of no living person, these would be my two segregated mountains.

Nurmi, Zátopek, Owens, Oerter
Didrickson, Blankers-Koen, Chudina, Ostermeyer
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Re: Who's on track's Mt. Rushmore?

Postby Brian » Tue Jul 23, 2013 3:42 pm

Pego wrote:
TN1965 wrote:Nurmi.
Zatopek.
Bikila.
Waitz.

I would not enshrine a living person.


Playing by the rule of no living person, these would be my two segregated mountains.

Nurmi, Zátopek, Owens, Oerter
Didrickson, Blankers-Koen, Chudina, Ostermeyer


Very well-reasoned choices.

I wouldn't argue with any of them being selected.


So when are we going to build this mountain? Who's willing to volunteer? Shouldn't take more than a couple of weekends...
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