Edwin Moses Trivia Question


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Edwin Moses Trivia Question

Postby gh » Fri Nov 21, 2003 12:22 pm

Over on Current Events somebody noted that Moses won the NCAA Div. III one year.

Who can tell us what his history was in Div. I?
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Re: Edwin Moses Trivia Question

Postby 6 5.5hjsteve » Fri Nov 21, 2003 1:07 pm

not without looking it up, which is cheating.
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Re: Edwin Moses Trivia Question

Postby Guest » Fri Nov 21, 2003 1:08 pm

Did he win a 60m/hurdles this year, beating
the best US specialists like Earl Mc CULLOUGH?
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Re: Edwin Moses Trivia Question

Postby michael lewis » Fri Nov 21, 2003 1:27 pm

"which is cheating."

Even without my glasses? :)
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Re: Edwin Moses Trivia Question

Postby Guest » Fri Nov 21, 2003 1:57 pm

Moses history runnig Div. I is non-existent.
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Re: Edwin Moses Trivia Question

Postby gh » Fri Nov 21, 2003 2:20 pm

That's a semi-correct answer: note that I asked for his "history," not his finishes.
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Re: Edwin Moses Trivia Question

Postby Guest » Fri Nov 21, 2003 2:23 pm

I know that the system used to be that the Division III champion in each event ran in the Division I championships (I know this because I went to a DIII school and we had a national champ who did so).

This could the "history" that Garry is referring to, although I don't know the specific details.
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Re: Edwin Moses Trivia Question

Postby larwood » Fri Nov 21, 2003 3:19 pm

The answer will come to me soon. However, in the meantime, I would like to congradulate hjsteve as a reformed trivia player. Better to be a loser than a 'cheater' (what high morals we have here!). I am sure Dick Pound would be very proud of him.
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Re: Edwin Moses Trivia Question

Postby stevehj197 » Fri Nov 21, 2003 3:28 pm

I am right here larwood, so be careful
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Re: Edwin Moses Trivia Question

Postby Guest » Fri Nov 21, 2003 3:35 pm

I still haven't recovered from steve's wacko jacko reference about what he'd want to do with the baton in another thread...
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Re: Edwin Moses Trivia Question

Postby gh » Fri Nov 21, 2003 3:38 pm

>I know that the system used to be that the
>Division III champion in each event ran in the
>Division I championships (I know this because I
>went to a DIII school and we had a national champ
>who did so).

This could the "history" that
>Garry is referring to, although I don't know the
>specific details.>>

You're getting warm!
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Re: Edwin Moses Trivia Question

Postby Guest » Fri Nov 21, 2003 4:15 pm

I believe he fell the one time he ran Div.1 nationals.
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Re: Edwin Moses Trivia Question

Postby gh » Fri Nov 21, 2003 4:40 pm

Getting warmer, almost hot!
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Re: Edwin Moses Trivia Question

Postby stevehj197 » Fri Nov 21, 2003 5:03 pm

I know the answer but I cheated to find it out. (And larwood is watching me)
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Re: Edwin Moses Trivia Question

Postby gh » Fri Nov 21, 2003 5:06 pm

It's a 2-part answer: you sure you looked up both parts? :-)
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Re: Edwin Moses Trivia Question

Postby stevehj197 » Fri Nov 21, 2003 5:07 pm

I guess I only know 1/2 then.
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Re: Edwin Moses Trivia Question

Postby Guest » Fri Nov 21, 2003 7:16 pm

I know in '76 he fell in the D3 final - then they reran it and he won but was not allowed to compete D1 because it was a rerun.
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Re: Edwin Moses Trivia Question

Postby Guest » Fri Nov 21, 2003 7:18 pm

The next year he refused to run D1 because of the mess the year before. (I cheated and looked it up)
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Re: Edwin Moses Trivia Question

Postby stevehj197 » Fri Nov 21, 2003 7:30 pm

>The next year he refused to run D1 because of the
>mess the year before. (I cheated and looked it
>up)

and that's the part I did not know... I looked up the first part; it was mentioned in the write up of the '76 Div. I meet. No mention of the ignored rerun though.
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Re: Edwin Moses Trivia Question

Postby larwood » Fri Nov 21, 2003 8:33 pm

I was just going to say that Moses fell in the Division III final and couldn't compete in Division 1. If I remember the Olympic trials was only the third 400 hurdles race he ever ran. I did not look this up! I swear.

By the way the IAAF trivia police showed up at my house the other day. They ask only one question. Mine was: What is the worst track and field movie ever made? To comply with their strict guidelines, I immediately replied 'Running Brave'!They replied that was not the worst movie but it was bad enough to be within the acceptable limits.
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Re: Edwin Moses Trivia Question

Postby gh » Sat Nov 22, 2003 7:00 am

Very-very-very close, but not quite right. In '76, at a point where he was the world leader, he fell in the Div. III semis. The next day they ran a "consolation final," but since he wasn't officially one of the first 2, the NCAA denied his petition for entry into the Div. I meet.

The next year he won Div. III but then in protest at his treatment the previous year turned down the option to run Div. I. At that point in his career, I suspect Edwin had little to do with the decision, which would have been made by his coach, whose name was.......?
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Re: Edwin Moses Trivia Question

Postby larwood » Sat Nov 22, 2003 7:39 am

I thought he was self-coached. But than again Morehouse did have a track program so someone must have been in charge ....
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Re: Edwin Moses Trivia Question

Postby Guest » Sat Nov 22, 2003 8:14 am

I believe this a trick question and the answer is one of these:
a. no one
b. himself
c. a book
d. a consultant, i.e. NOT whoever was the titular coach at Morehouse
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Re: Edwin Moses Trivia Question

Postby cullman » Sat Nov 22, 2003 8:17 am

...his wife perhaps...what was her name? Mariella?
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Re: Edwin Moses Trivia Question

Postby trackhead » Sat Nov 22, 2003 8:44 am

self coached
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Re: Edwin Moses Trivia Question

Postby gh » Sat Nov 22, 2003 5:06 pm

He had a coach, but I'm not sure if he was the titular head at Morehouse or some kind of hanger on. Back in the mists of time, T&FN referred to Moses and Coach X not running D I as a protest.

Hint: nickname was "the rev"
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Re: Edwin Moses Trivia Question

Postby Guest » Sat Nov 22, 2003 5:47 pm

Oh, that gave it away: page 12 of Aug 77 issue:
"dispute between coach Lloyd Jackson and the NCAA." Never heard of him.

Oh in case anyone thought tafnut went away, I've just been too lazy to go through the log-in.
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Re: Edwin Moses Trivia Question

Postby Guest » Sat Nov 22, 2003 6:21 pm

"I immediately replied 'Running Brave'!They replied that was not the worst movie but it was bad enough to be within the acceptable limits."


The worst track movie ever made was "Across the Tracks." It was a hideously bad movie with Brad Pitt (early in his career) and Rick Schroeder (Silver Spoons, NYPD Blue). They played two brothers, one of whom was juvenile delinquent; they were both track stars. Terrible movie.
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