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A riddle (2)...

Postby Guest » Fri Nov 14, 2003 12:22 pm

Among the best all-time decathletes, he ran
a terrific 45"4 400m at one of his decathlons
in the sixties.
Who was he?
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Re: A riddle (2).

Postby Guest » Fri Nov 14, 2003 12:28 pm

<Among the best all-time decathletes, he ran
a terrific 45"4 400m at one of his decathlons
in the sixties.
Who was he?>

Does Bill Toomey's run in the 1968 Olys (at altitude) count?
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Re: A riddle (2).

Postby Guest » Fri Nov 14, 2003 12:31 pm

I've got Toomey at 45.6 in Mexico.
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Re: A riddle (2).

Postby Guest » Fri Nov 14, 2003 12:36 pm

<I've got Toomey at 45.6 in Mexico.>

Without consulting any books, that was what I though Toomey ran at Mexico City. Were there are other real fast 400 m types as top decathletes in the 1960s? And 45.4 (45.6) is really moving along in the 400 m.
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Re: A riddle (2).

Postby Guest » Fri Nov 14, 2003 12:42 pm

Don't forget to add about .5 seconds to it for the altitude.

At least according to this calculator:
http://desert.jsd.claremont.edu/~newt/t ... 00alt.html


Still, a 46.1 is moving.
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Re: A riddle (2).

Postby Guest » Fri Nov 14, 2003 12:45 pm

Another fraudulent Mexico City mark getting blown out of proportion. Doesn't it strike you as even remotely odd that there were more never-to-be-matched again marks at Mexico City than all other Olympics combined. Is the concept of high altitude-aid lost on you?

Note that Toomey is in the world record books twice, and in those two decathlons (one before Mexico, one after) he ran 47.1 and 47.3. He was a decent quartermiler, but not a world class one, no matter what the MC time seems to tell you.
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Re: A riddle (2).

Postby Guest » Fri Nov 14, 2003 12:46 pm

In a book, I read 45"4...
So, is it 45"4 or 45"6 in reality?
Even set at Mexico, this was a really impressive
performance, even from an ex-specialist of
long-jump and 400m...
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Re: A riddle (2).

Postby Guest » Fri Nov 14, 2003 12:53 pm

Harrumph!, you are all over this board trying to take away from the 1968 Olympics performances.

Yes, I understand, it was at altitude, which helps for sprints/jumps.

But it was also 35 years ago, when performances hadn't progressed to the point they are now. So give the 1968 Games sprinters and jumpers some credit, because they did some great things.
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Re: A riddle (2).

Postby 6 5.5hjsteve » Fri Nov 14, 2003 1:23 pm

and I remember watching Toomey's run on TV, and he was one monster whaling machine... you knew he was HOT long before he hit the line. Just walked away from the rest of the field.
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Re: A riddle (2).

Postby Guest » Fri Nov 14, 2003 9:35 pm

Toomey's time was 45.68. Adjustment factor for 7546'(?) is roughly x1.009 ? So maybe = 46.10 at low-altitude??
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Re: A riddle (2).

Postby stevehj197 » Sat Nov 15, 2003 5:15 am

call it 45.6, 45.68, 46.1, or whatever..... that man, that day, produced a super great Decathlon 400 performance.
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