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Last in 1900.

Postby larwood » Thu Nov 13, 2003 5:15 pm

Here is a question our roving answer man, kuha1, in Paris might answer. Who was the last finisher in the 1900 Olympic marathon in Paris? (This is a question I love to ask non-track people.)
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Re: Last in 1900.

Postby Jon » Thu Nov 13, 2003 5:17 pm

Was it Arthur Newton...?

(In a P.Diddy-esque 4:04:12....?)
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Re: Last in 1900.

Postby larwood » Thu Nov 13, 2003 6:04 pm

No, and it wasn't Joe Newton either!
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Re: Last in 1900.

Postby Guest » Thu Nov 13, 2003 9:34 pm

it was some clown with dyed red hair - Ronald McDonald.
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Re: Last in 1900.

Postby Guest » Thu Nov 13, 2003 9:37 pm

I hope the well-informed person who replies correctly to this question will also tell us what finish place and time that "last" runner achieved.

The bronze medalist was clocked in 3:37.14, the first USA runner was Arthur Newton in fifth place, and the reported distance measurement for the course was 40,260 meters.

(The first six Olympic marathons were all different distances including the too-long race in 1920 at Antwerp which was reported as 42,750m.)
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Re: Last in 1900.

Postby larwood » Fri Nov 14, 2003 7:38 am

Yes, sport fans, it was that debonair gent Ronald MacDonald, who finished seventh out of seven finishers in Paris. Besides his work as a clown (Ray Kroc was supposedly a big track fan) and an inspiration for a well-known song, Mr. 'Old' MacDonald also won the second Boston Marathon.

P.S. His Paris time, apparently, is unknown.
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Re: Last in 1900.

Postby Guest » Fri Nov 14, 2003 7:42 am

no times beyond 5th(4:04:12),apparently. McDonald was 8th and last. 6th(Cregan) was 2nd in the 800m. Best range ever in one Olympics??
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Re: Last in 1900.

Postby larwood » Fri Nov 14, 2003 10:41 am

I beg to differ with bf. After his posting I checked two sources (Not TandFNews which was not being published then. Not even gh is that old!) and both say there were only seven finishers and Mr. MacDonald was last.
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Re: Last in 1900.

Postby Guest » Fri Nov 14, 2003 11:09 am

TFN Olympic book listed 8 (Cregan 6th, which wasn't listed in other books - Wallechinsky,etc.)
Early Olympic marathons had their problems - it was this one, I think, as well as '24 C-C race, where many dropped out after inhaling fumes from a chemical plant. Plus,the French runners suspected of taking shortcuts.
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Re: Last in 1900.

Postby gh » Fri Nov 14, 2003 11:10 am

You'll find all kinds of versions of what happened in the early editions of the Games. T&FN uses "The Modern Olympic Century" by Ekkehard zur Megede as its reference of choice. He says there were 13 starters, 7 finishers, with McDonald 6th, Richard Grant 7th.
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Re: Last in 1900.

Postby Guest » Fri Nov 14, 2003 1:28 pm

Drat! A day late and a dollar, er euro, er pound short again!
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Re: Last in 1900.

Postby larwood » Sat Nov 15, 2003 6:39 am

In response to gh I have the 1996 publication by Britain's NUTS: '100 Years of the Olympic Marathon' edited by Bob Phillips and Roger Gynn (one of the leading authorities on the history of the marathon). While they do state difficulties documenting the early games--for example, in the 1896 race they write that there were at least 18 starters and perhaps as many as 35--for the 1900 games they have Grant 6th and MacDonald 7th out of seven finishers.
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