High Jump History: Book on Straddling (by Geoff Nelson?)


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Postby parkerrclay » Thu Sep 04, 2008 12:20 pm

Ever hear anymore on this book?

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High jump history - book on straddling

Postby Bauchwalzer » Fri Sep 05, 2008 7:50 am

"BELLY ROLL: The Straddle Style Of High Jumping And Its Impact On The Sport Of Track & Field"
Profiles of the most significant adherents of the belly roll for the decades of the 30's into the 90's, along with the inclusion of photos & detailed captions, instructional drawings, methods, tables and quotes, an introduction, credits and a bibliography.
Contents:
Gil Cruter, Dave Albritton, Mel Walker, Les Steers, Ken Wiesner, Ernie Shelton, Bengt Nilsson, Charles Dumas, Igor Kashkarov, Yuriy Styepanov, Stig Pettersson, Robert Shavlakadze, John Thomas, Joe Faust, Viktor Bolshov, Valeriy Brumel, Ni Chih-chin, Lawrie Peckham, Ed Caruthers, Otis Burrell, John Dobroth, Valentin Gavrilov, Reynaldo Brown, Pat Matzdorf, Juri Tarmack, Stefan Junge, Rolf Beilschmidt, Henry Lauterbach, Volodomir Yashchenko and Christian Schenk.
Profiled 30 - PhotosCaptions
Belly Rollers All - Photos/Captions
Progression Of:
World Indoor Straddle Record, World Outdoor Strad Rec, World Junior Indoor/ Outdoor Strad Rec, North American Indoor/Outdoor Strad Rec, South American Indoor/Outdoor Strad Rec, Asian Outdoor Strad Rec, African Outdoor Strad Rec, Australian Indoor/Outdoor Strad Rec, European Indoor/Outdoor Strad Rec, All-German Indoor/Outdoor Strad Rec, Int'l Age Group Strad Bests, Profiled 30 Age Group Strad Bests and Best Leaps By Age List and Body Height/Height Straddled Over Head List, First Dozen (Plus) Seven Foot High Jumpers List, Seven Foot Strad List, Body Height/Height Strad Over Head List, World Indoor High Jump List '50-'80, AAU Indoor Champs '36-'64, AAU/NCAA/Euro Indoor Champs '65-'79, World Outdoor High Jump List/World Rankings '36-'80, NCAA/AAU Outdoor Champs '36-'47, NCAA/AAU/USSR Outdoor Champs '48-'80, Dual Meets Between America And The Soviet Union '58-'79, U.S. Olympic Trials '36-'80 and Olympic Games and Euro Champs '36-'80
860 Pages (give or take)
Landscape Format
Bound in three volumes and all lie flat
Softcover
I have a master but have made a few revisions since, one set has gone to my brother and one to Joe Faust.
Self-published
Thanks for the interest and sorry that I've been hard to get hold of.
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Postby parkerrclay » Fri Sep 05, 2008 8:16 am

have any extra copies to sell?
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Postby parkerrclay » Fri Sep 05, 2008 8:16 am

have any extra copies to sell?
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Postby mrbowie » Sat Sep 06, 2008 7:01 pm

Likewise!
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Postby paulthefan » Sun Sep 07, 2008 12:57 pm

Can the straddle make a comeback in the 21st century?
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Postby jhc68 » Sun Sep 07, 2008 3:08 pm

Geoff, you know I've been waiting for a copy for years now! Your old email address bounces back. Email me or send a private message here. Joe C.
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Re: High Jump History: Book on Straddling (by Geoff Nelson?)

Postby tupeke » Fri May 07, 2010 8:23 pm

Has anyone managed to contact the author of this book and buy a copy? I desperately want it!! Anyone know his email address?
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Re: High Jump History: Book on Straddling (by Geoff Nelson?)

Postby bambam » Sat May 08, 2010 9:10 am

Tupeke - if anyone has it it is jhc68, who is listed on a post on this forum on 8 Oct 2005, discussing this 800 unpublished manuscript by his friend Geoff Nelson. JHC68 - did you ever get a copy of this?
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Re: High Jump History: Book on Straddling (by Geoff Nelson?)

Postby jhc68 » Sun May 09, 2010 11:09 am

No, I haven't seen it yet, either!
I count Geoff as a friend even though I've only had email contact with him - we grew up in the same area with lots of overlapping acquaintances and experiences and he seems like a good guy. What I have seen of the book is fragments that were posted years ago on Joe Faust's (no-longer existent) website with great photos and very informed narrative, along with emails from time to time describing new facts or people or trivia that Geoff had discovered.
Geoff was out of contact for a very long time. A few weeks ago, though, I got an email from him. My understanding is that the book is finished but that he has not found a publisher and self-publishing is not an option for him. Me, I might send him the costs of throwing it on the copy machine and mailing it to me if he were of a mind to do so.
At any rate, I just sent him an email to let him know that there are new inquiries on this board. He sometimes posts here so maybe he will give us all the latest progress report or if he replies directly to me I'll relay it on to this thread.
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Re: High Jump History: Book on Straddling (by Geoff Nelson?)

Postby nielsalofsen » Fri Mar 22, 2013 1:48 pm

Is this book already available?
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Re: High Jump History: Book on Straddling (by Geoff Nelson?)

Postby jhc68 » Mon Mar 25, 2013 6:42 pm

So far as I know the book is not available.
I've never met Geoff Nelson (the author)in person but I still get the occasional email from him. I believe the book is done but there are major issues with copyrights for the photos and $$ to self-publish.
Some posters here, including mrbowie and marco have contacted Geoff to help out but I don't believe the book is much closer to publication. Too bad, I'd love to have a copy and Geoff Nelson seems like a really knowledgeable good guy.
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Re:

Postby noone » Thu Mar 28, 2013 3:52 pm

jhc68 wrote:Faust was a sensational prodigy back in the day:
7 ft at age 17 yrs 9 months in 1960
6 ft 81/4 in at age 15 yrs 8 months in 1958
(according to my trusty old Archie's LIttle Black Book


According to Wikipedia Reynaldo Brown jumped 7'3 in 1968. It doesn't give the exact date but Brown was born Dec 6, 1950 so there's a good chance he was still under 18.
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Re: Re:

Postby dj » Thu Mar 28, 2013 4:44 pm

noone wrote:
jhc68 wrote:Faust was a sensational prodigy back in the day:
7 ft at age 17 yrs 9 months in 1960
6 ft 81/4 in at age 15 yrs 8 months in 1958
(according to my trusty old Archie's LIttle Black Book


According to Wikipedia Reynaldo Brown jumped 7'3 in 1968. It doesn't give the exact date but Brown was born Dec 6, 1950 so there's a good chance he was still under 18.


Brown's 7-3 was mid-September '68 at the US Olympic Trials. So yes, he was 17 at the time.
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Re: High Jump History: Book on Straddling (by Geoff Nelson?)

Postby jhc68 » Fri Mar 29, 2013 2:05 pm

Rey Brown was one of the great HJ prodigies of all-time. The 7-3 mark at the trials and the =5th place at the OGs all came before he started his senior year at Compton HS.
And the 7-3 was only 2 and 3/4 inches off Brumel's WR (about = to an 11th grader jumping 7-10 today.)
I'm thinking (but too lazy to look-up) that the 7-3 may also have been = 3rd best all-time performer in 1968. Had anyone aside from Brumel and Thomas exceeded 7-3 in 1968?
Here is a nice article @ Brown: http://masterstrack.com/2009/12/2163/
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Re: High Jump History: Book on Straddling (by Geoff Nelson?)

Postby Per Andersen » Fri Mar 29, 2013 4:28 pm

jhc68 wrote:I'm thinking (but too lazy to look-up) that the 7-3 may also have been = 3rd best all-time performer in 1968. Had anyone aside from Brumel and Thomas exceeded 7-3 in 1968?
Here is a nice article @ Brown: http://masterstrack.com/2009/12/2163/

If you mean the entire 1968 then there is your teammate Ed Caruthers 2.22 in the Olympics.
There were others who had jumped 2.21 in 1968 before Reynaldo Brown did it, Skvortsov for instance.
But by the time in '68 when Brown jumped 2.21, only Ni Chih-Chin (2.27) + Brumel and Thomas had exceeded 2.21.
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Re: High Jump History: Book on Straddling (by Geoff Nelson?)

Postby bambam » Fri Mar 29, 2013 4:49 pm

jhc68 wrote:Here is a nice article @ Brown: http://masterstrack.com/2009/12/2163/


It is a nice, nice story on Rey Brown. Thanx for sharing it with us
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Re: High Jump History: Book on Straddling (by Geoff Nelson?)

Postby EastBayprepoftheweek67 » Fri Mar 29, 2013 8:05 pm

Per Andersen wrote:
jhc68 wrote:I'm thinking (but too lazy to look-up) that the 7-3 may also have been = 3rd best all-time performer in 1968. Had anyone aside from Brumel and Thomas exceeded 7-3 in 1968?
Here is a nice article @ Brown: http://masterstrack.com/2009/12/2163/

If you mean the entire 1968 then there is your teammate Ed Caruthers 2.22 in the Olympics.
There were others who had jumped 2.21 in 1968 before Reynaldo Brown did it, Skvortsov for instance.
But by the time in '68 when Brown jumped 2.21, only Ni Chih-Chin (2.27) + Brumel and Thomas had exceeded 2.21.

Clarence Johnson, Cal, exceeded 7' 3" in 1967 by 1/4 inch, but I don't know if that is a metric 2.21 or 2.20.
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Re: High Jump History: Book on Straddling (by Geoff Nelson?)

Postby gh » Thu Apr 04, 2013 6:28 am

jhc68 wrote:So far as I know the book is not available.
I've never met Geoff Nelson (the author)in person but I still get the occasional email from him. I believe the book is done but there are major issues with copyrights for the photos and $$ to self-publish.
Some posters here, including mrbowie and marco have contacted Geoff to help out but I don't believe the book is much closer to publication. Too bad, I'd love to have a copy and Geoff Nelson seems like a really knowledgeable good guy.


This is a somewhat self-serving suggestion (as it would benefit us), but in this day and age, "publishing" is cheap, because electrons are free. We'd be quite happy to publish the book on the site here, although that doesn't help with any copyright issues.
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