¶2012 OG: m4x100–Jamaica 36.84 WR !!! [with splits]

[ATK]

It was more exaggeration to emphasize how bad Bolts left hand is. I honestly thing him receiving in his left and switching takes off a possible few hundredths of a second.

I haven't seen any race Bolt has run in his life where he couldn't find another few hundredths if he wanted to.

Anchoring him opens up the opportunity for him to find tenths that he never looked for before.[/quote]
2007?

[notlef70]

And Gatlin coasted at the end. They would have run 37.2 if Gatlin had run through the finish. I think the Jamaicans will have to run sub-37 to beat them.

And they (the Jamaicans) will run sub 37!! However, I would love to see the USA win. If we can get a 5 meter lead on Bolt, maybe we can hold him off? And possibly dip under 37 also?????

[j-a-m]

I haven't seen any race Bolt has run in his life where he couldn't find another few hundredths if he wanted to.

Exactly, and now it looks good the U.S. team is gonna put Bolt in that position.

[Weights&Shoes]

FINAL STARTLIST:


4x100 Metres Relay - M Final

2 Australia [AUSTRALIA]
3 France [FRANCE]
4 Japan [JAPAN]
5 Canada [CANADA]
6 Jamaica [JAMAICA]
7 United States [UNITED STATES]
8 Netherlands [NETHERLANDS]
9 Trinidad and Tobago [TRINIDAD AND TOBAGO]


Yikes, Canada got a good lane...still won't medal though. The main thing though, Jamaica again gets an inside line (like the Women's 4x100). Very good draw, now it's just pray they do good.

[toyracer]

The USA in magic lane 7 again...

[jazzcyclist]

I haven't seen any race Bolt has run in his life where he couldn't find another few hundredths if he wanted to.

Bullshit! I've seen plenty of races where Bolt gave 110%, expecially prior to 2008. Go back and look at the Beijing 200 final.

[mal]

I haven't seen any race Bolt has run in his life where he couldn't find another few hundredths if he wanted to.

Bullshit! I've seen plenty of races where Bolt gave 110%, expecially prior to 2008. Go back and look at the Beijing 200 final.

If you're pulling hyperbole, make it 120%

[Grasshopper]

Just for fun (not that this really means much), here's what the mens' final might look like if they repeat the relay-efficiency of the women:

Women (w/season-bests):
USA = Madison (10.87), Felix (10.89), Knight (11.13), Jeter (10.78) = 43.67 - 40.82 = 2.85 (or 6.52% of SB-total)
JAM = Frasier-Pryce (10.70), Simpson (11.01), Campbell-Brown (10.81), Stewart (10.94) = 43.46 - 41.41 = 2.05 (or 4.72% of SB-total)

Men (w/season-bests):
USA = Kimmons (10.02), Gatlin (9.79), Gay (9.80), Bailey (9.88) = 39.49 / 1.0652 (6.52%) = 37.07
JAM = Carter (9.95), Frater (9.94), Blake (9.75), Bolt (9.63) = 39.27 / 1.0472 (4.72%) = 37.50

Somehow, I doubt the Jamaicans will pass that poorly, though.

[cladthin]

If Bolt or any great for that matter are at enough of a deficit, they are not going to just dissolve away that amount out of sheer will despite their seemingly super-human ability. There is a limit to what any person can do so lets not get carried away.

[cladthin]

It was more exaggeration to emphasize how bad Bolts left hand is. I honestly thing him receiving in his left and switching takes off a possible few hundredths of a second.

I haven't seen any race Bolt has run in his life where he couldn't find another few hundredths if he wanted to.

Anchoring him opens up the opportunity for him to find tenths that he never looked for before.

2007?[/quote]

Conversely, having him go at the 4 position puts him on a shorter leg in terms of total distance required to run-he's better at 3 or 4 IMO.

[aaronk]

If Jamaica (Who else is gonna win??) runs the equivalent of what the USA women did......end with a new WR 0.55 under the old one.....
their winning time would be......

36.49.

Oh my!!

[zidan]

Is It the track, the clock or is it me. Jamaica looked 'easy' and does 37.39. Fourth fastest ever then. Then the US used a reshuffled team and breaks a record that has stood since the Carl Lewis era. Wow!

[1fastrunner]

A prediction...remember you read it here...there will be a screw up in Jamaican passing..no DQ or DNF just not their usual precision...US 37.26 Jamaica 37.29

[110hedgeNYC]

great semifinal by U.S.

wow.

was surprised by the order.

Demps - Patton - Kimmons - Gatlin

What does Drummond have up his sleeve? Perhaps a little gamesmanship by the Americans? Did the U.S. shuffle things around after Powell went down in the 100?

Was expecting: Demps - Gatlin - Patton - Kimmons

Is Bailey ok? If so, assuming Gay and Bailey in the for final, what's the order?

Seriously curious about the order for the final. Bailey is not a great starter.

Anyone got this????

Gay - Bailey - Kimmons - Gatlin?????????

interesting.

[Dutra5]

Gay - Bailey - Kimmons - Gatlin?????????

interesting.

I haven't been able to figure out the US' order for the final but this might make some sense. The thought could be that if the US can have the lead by the 2nd exchange it might put some pressure on Jamaica and cause some problems. However, Blake running a lane inside Kimmons should be...um...interesting.

[Alan Shank]

How about Kimmons, Bailey, Gay, Gatlin? Kimmons is an excellent starter, and I believe he's led off before. Monaco?

Too bad about the UK DQ. I see they didn't have "Harry the Tackler" in there, anyway. >:-)
Cheers,
Alan Shank

[fourjz]

If Jamaica (Who else is gonna win??) runs the equivalent of what the USA women did......end with a new WR 0.55 under the old one.....
their winning time would be......

36.49.

Oh my!!

Jamaica is going run 36 even with mediocre handoffs.But the U.S. will run 36 only with good handoffs.If Jamaica has a bad handoff early,then we could see an upset by the U.S. team.

[fourjz]

A prediction...remember you read it here...there will be a screw up in Jamaican passing..no DQ or DNF just not their usual precision...US 37.26 Jamaica 37.29

In this sccenario I see Bolt pulling a Bob Hayes anchor blowing by whoever The U.S has on anchor for an epic relay split and win.

[TrainerPhil]

Hopefully both the US and Jamaica get that dang baton around. The US will probably run 37 very low and might even dip under the current WR, but if there ever was a lock for a WR this is it. Jamaica will run 36.8X.

[pakillo]

should be great final

[Weights&Shoes]

How about Kimmons, Bailey, Gay, Gatlin? Kimmons is an excellent starter, and I believe he's led off before. Monaco?

Too bad about the UK DQ. I see they didn't have "Harry the Tackler" in there, anyway. >:-)
Cheers,
Alan Shank

Really wanted GBR to be in it. Close out the Olympics with a good shot at a medal. Ah well, it happens.

[tracknut2012]

Bolt is guaranteed to anchor.

Maybe, but he would be more effective in the overall scheme of things on the third leg.

Bolt is the star of these games and he will anchor. He anchored in Daegu with a WR and he will do the same here as well if the baton is passed around correctly.

[tracknut2012]

All Americans and Jamaicans make the 100 final; could be a great relay

I think both will break the WR.

The American men won't break the world record.

[tracknut2012]

A prediction...remember you read it here...there will be a screw up in Jamaican passing..no DQ or DNF just not their usual precision...US 37.26 Jamaica 37.29

In this sccenario I see Bolt pulling a Bob Hayes anchor blowing by whoever The U.S has on anchor for an epic relay split and win.

With Blake on the third leg, Bolt will have a lead at the start of the anchor and smash the world record in 36.85.

[TrainerPhil]

With Blake on the third leg, Bolt will have a lead at the start of the anchor and smash the world record in 36.85.

I hope the US have the lead when Bolt gets the stick. If Blake gives it to him with a lead, the race will be a blowout. It would be an infinitely more exciting race if Bolt has to run down Gatlin for gold.

[tracknut2012]

With Blake on the third leg, Bolt will have a lead at the start of the anchor and smash the world record in 36.85.

I hope the US have the lead when Bolt gets the stick. If Blake gives it to him with a lead, the race will be a blowout. It would be an infinitely more exciting race if Bolt has to run down Gatlin for gold.

If Bolt has to run down Gatlin, it should be a cakewalk just like he ran him down in the 100m.

[americantrackfan]

The best order for the US is Kimmons, Gatlin, Gay, Bailey. I think that's what they did on Monaco and with good handoffs they should be fine. Kimmons is the slowest of the group and a pretty good starter. Gay can run the turn, and Gatlin should run the longer leg. If their handoffs are as good as the US women, I can see 37 flat.
If Powell runs for Jamaica and is healthy, they could go 36.8 or 36.9. In that case they go someone...(carter, frater), blake, bolt, powell. if powell is out, then bolt should anchor.

[jazzcyclist]

Here's food for thought. Assuming Gay and Bailey replace Patton and Kimmons, the U.S. would theoretically run 36.75 if they matched the women's passing efficiency.

10.10+9.88+9.80+9.79-2.82 = 36.75.

[tracknut2012]

The best order for the US is Kimmons, Gatlin, Gay, Bailey. I think that's what they did on Monaco and with good handoffs they should be fine. Kimmons is the slowest of the group and a pretty good starter. Gay can run the turn, and Gatlin should run the longer leg. If their handoffs are as good as the US women, I can see 37 flat.
If Powell runs for Jamaica and is healthy, they could go 36.8 or 36.9. In that case they go someone...(carter, frater), blake, bolt, powell. if powell is out, then bolt should anchor.

Powell is not running.

[uakari]

amazing tom hammond, managed to miss japan in the 2nd heat, which finished 2nd, as he's rattling off 3 or 4 of the other teams.

[Smoke]

LMAO If Bolt is more than 3 meters down he will not catch anyone we have on anchor. Simple fact. Running start is not the same, this is not the 200, he is not that far ahead of anyone in a 100 or less. Asafa did not catch Leroy and he was a 10.1, we have a choice between 9.79 and 9.88 for anchor. Please stop the fantasies.
It is very likely the US leads going into the anchor leg. All comes down to the battle on the bend.

[Randy Treadway]

Here's food for thought. Assuming Gay and Bailey replace Patton and Kimmons, the U.S. would theoretically run 36.75 if they matched the women's passing efficiency.

That's a huge "if". Theoretically possible, but highly unlikely. I wouldn't bet the car on it.

[jazzcyclist]

It is very likely the US leads going into the anchor leg. All comes down to the battle on the bend.

And the passes. The first two passes today weren't so great. If they can improve on those tomorrow, they might indeed set up the anchor with an insurmountable lead.

[jazzcyclist]

Here's food for thought. Assuming Gay and Bailey replace Patton and Kimmons, the U.S. would theoretically run 36.75 if they matched the women's passing efficiency.

That's a huge "if". Theoretically possible, but highly unlikely. I wouldn't bet the car on it.

I didn't think the women would improve on their prelim passing but they did.

[Alan Shank]

amazing tom hammond, managed to miss japan in the 2nd heat, which finished 2nd, as he's rattling off 3 or 4 of the other teams.

Tom Hammond has not got the slightest idea of how to watch a race. He also doesn't know who/which teams are likely to be in contention, which, of course, is part of knowing how to watch a race. Everyone involved in putting him in the anchor position for athletics deserves censure.
Cheers,
Alan Shank