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¶2012 OG: wSP–Flash! Valerie Adams (NZ) elevated

Postby dj » Wed Aug 01, 2012 5:45 pm

T&FN formchart advancers to final

1. Valerie Adams (New Zealand)
2. Nadzeya Ostapchuk (Belarus)
3. Yevgeniya Kolodko (Russia)

4. Jill Camarena-Williams (USA)
5. Lijiao Gong (China)
6. Natalya Mikhnevich (Belarus)
7. Michelle Carter (USA)
8. Nadine Kleinert (Germany)
9. Anna Avdeyeva (Russia)
10. Ling Li (China)
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Re: 2012 OG: wSP–

Postby bushop » Thu Aug 02, 2012 2:34 pm

Anyone know what the automatic qualifying distance is for the women's shot put?
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Re: 2012 OG: wSP–

Postby gh » Sun Aug 05, 2012 6:47 am

no Adams on the start lists as currently posted.
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Re: 2012 OG: wSP–

Postby gh » Sun Aug 05, 2012 6:48 am

bushop wrote:Anyone know what the automatic qualifying distance is for the women's shot put?



18.90
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Re: 2012 OG: wSP–

Postby Randy Treadway » Sun Aug 05, 2012 7:11 am

gh wrote:no Adams on the start lists as currently posted.


This articled dated today out of NZ says she arrived in London from her Swiss training base "at a whole new level", ready to go.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/olympics/t ... nal-battle

If she's not showing up on start lists, it's a real mystery. I wonder if the Kiwi coaches screwed up on some kind of paperwork?

I smiled when I read the article's reference to "magical measuring tapes". :wink:
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Re: 2012 OG: wSP–where's Waldo?

Postby Stooges » Sun Aug 05, 2012 9:35 am

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/olympics/t ... r-shot-put

''It was an administrative error and it is being corrected now,'' said New Zealand team spokeswoman Ashley Abbott. ''She will definitely be competing tomorrow.''
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Re: 2012 OG: wSP–no Adams drama

Postby Rye Catcher » Sun Aug 05, 2012 11:49 am

This confirms that the NZ Olympic Committee is a bunch of incompetent idiot political appointees. See the article on the front page.

BTW: Adams is now on the list.
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Re: 2012 OG: wSP–no Adams drama

Postby mal » Sun Aug 05, 2012 1:43 pm

You can't make this stuff up. You get a view into the world that NZ athletes have to deal with.
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Re: 2012 OG: wSP–no Adams drama

Postby lapsus » Sun Aug 05, 2012 1:49 pm

The title made me look. Happily, it meant "no Adams drama", and not "no Adams, drama".
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Re: 2012 OG: wSP–no Adams drama

Postby nianchengyu » Sun Aug 05, 2012 2:42 pm

18.90m is the highest Q mark since 1993,showing the much better level than the beginning of 21st century,the winning mark may reach over 21.50m.
One strange thing is that adams and ostapchuk are both in group A, :?
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Re: 2012 OG: wSP–no Adams drama

Postby Tuariki » Sun Aug 05, 2012 4:31 pm

All that happened is that the NZOC and the NZ Athletics officials confirmed themselves to be the greatest "dorks" in the sporting world.

I am curious to know, and somewhat afraid to find out, whether or not there are grounds to protest Valerie's entry as not being validly made.

There can be no doubt now at the justification as to why Jacko was upset at NZOC/NZ Athletics and why he eventually just turned his back on them.
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Re: 2012 OG: wSP–no Adams drama

Postby Marlow » Sun Aug 05, 2012 6:13 pm

Rye Catcher wrote:See the article on the front page.

Allow me to annotate the article

the article wrote:The startling mistake emerged only hours before Adams' Olympic shot put title defence, forcing the NZOC to plead for an emergency amendment from the International Olympic Committee and the International Association of Athletics Federations.

Hertofore referred to the "NZ AFU Amendment"

the article wrote:The IOC and IAAF have relented and Adams is in, but serious questions remain around the oversight which angered Adams on the eve of her Olympic title defence.

As in, "are these guys seriously brain-damaged?"

the article wrote:But Dave Currie, chef de mission of the New Zealand Olympic team, said the NZOC would not be responding to the snafu until it had the answers to what happened.

AKA, the 12th of Never.

the article wrote:"The questions being asked are very good questions, but we need a little while to ascertain quite what has happened and how to deal with it," Currie told Fairfax Media.

And to get of of town.

the article wrote:"I can't answer those questions right now. We can't speculate ... we need to go back and look at the process.

It's just like in the movie, The Hangover.

the article wrote:"I'm not trying to evade it and I know the interest, there's going to be a whole lot of interest in how this could happen. I'm not trying to run away from it, but right now, until we've had time to look at it, I can't say any more."

I'm totally trying to evade an explanation of our utter incompetence.

the article wrote:Currie said, "It's not what you want to happen the night before an event. We're extremely disappointed."

But what WAS happening in our rooms last night probably explains this.

the article wrote:Currie wouldn't say when the NZOC would reveal what had happened, and it is likely that won't become public until after Adams throws in the qualifying rounds from 9.45 (tonight NZ time) and the final tomorrow (8.15am NZ time).

We'll be long gone before we fess up.

the article wrote:"We need to make sure there's no more disruption, so let's get the event over and then we'll worry about what happened," he said.

As if.

the article wrote:"We're not going to let it drag on, but we're not going to put a timeframe on it. We need to make sure there's no disruption to her preparation, and then we'll focus on all the things being asked. All the energy at the moment is going to making sure she (Adams) is in and that this doesn't have a negative impact on her performance.

We'll have the answer right after Area 51 is opened to the Public.
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Re: 2012 OG: wSP–no Adams drama

Postby bushop » Sun Aug 05, 2012 6:57 pm

Marlow wrote:Allow me to annotate the article, Hertofore referred to the "NZ AFU Amendment", As in, "are these guys seriously brain-damaged?" AKA, the 12th of Never. And to get of of town. It's just like in the movie, The Hangover. I'm totally trying to evade an explanation of our utter incompetence. But what WAS happening in our rooms last night probably explains this. We'll be long gone before we fess up. As if. We'll have the answer right after Area 51 is opened to the Public.

Nice work.
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Re: 2012 OG: wSP–no Adams drama

Postby gm » Sun Aug 05, 2012 7:08 pm

Can you imagine the pantload dropped by the first admin who realized they had screwed up?
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Re: 2012 OG: wSP–no Adams drama

Postby lapsus » Mon Aug 06, 2012 2:05 am

Ostapchuk 20.76 in qualifying first round.

Her Olympic form seems to equal her Kiev form.
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Re: 2012 OG: wSP–no Adams drama

Postby nianchengyu » Mon Aug 06, 2012 2:12 am

lapsus wrote:Ostapchuk 20.76 in qualifying first round.

Her Olympic form seems to equal her Kiev form.

longest Q mark ever, :)
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Re: 2012 OG: wSP–no Adams drama

Postby nianchengyu » Mon Aug 06, 2012 2:19 am

adams tossed 20.40m in 2nd round,what happened in her 1st round? maybe the pressure from Ostapchukal ,tonight final will be fantastic. By the way,two longest Q mark in oly history may because 1980 oly has no Q at all.
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Re: 2012 OG: wSP–no Adams drama

Postby nianchengyu » Mon Aug 06, 2012 2:29 am

wow,today Q came with some shocks,kleinert/18.36m, :? avdeeva/only 17.47m :shock: ,and camerena only 18.22m , :shock: for the very stable thrower,full of tears in her eyes.
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Re: 2012 OG: wSP–no Adams drama

Postby gibson » Mon Aug 06, 2012 2:34 am

bushop wrote:
Marlow wrote:Allow me to annotate the article, Hertofore referred to the "NZ AFU Amendment", As in, "are these guys seriously brain-damaged?" AKA, the 12th of Never. And to get of of town. It's just like in the movie, The Hangover. I'm totally trying to evade an explanation of our utter incompetence. But what WAS happening in our rooms last night probably explains this. We'll be long gone before we fess up. As if. We'll have the answer right after Area 51 is opened to the Public.

Nice work.
Nice work from here also.

HEADLINE - ANZ SHOTS ITSELF IN BOTH FEET - NEXT TIME THE HEAD?
(spelling curtesy of ANZ)

New Zealand Athletics eliminated, though their own BOZO paperwork, both the women's and men's champions from the Olympics. Until moments ago, that was the reality.

It was the Olympic committee who saved the day for the athlete and cudos for interpreting the rules in a fair and sensible way.... something, I think ANZ is incapable of.
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Re: 2012 OG: wSP–Adams (20.40) in, Camarena-Williams out

Postby nianchengyu » Mon Aug 06, 2012 2:59 am

Adams tossed 20.40m in 2nd round,what happened in her 1st round? maybe the pressure from Ostapchukal ,tonight final will be fantastic. By the way,two longest Q mark in oly history may because 1980 oly has no Q at all.
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Re: 2012 OG: wSP–Adams (20.40) in, Camarena-Williams out

Postby bushop » Mon Aug 06, 2012 7:44 am

Jillian Camarena Williams via Facebook wrote:Jillian Camarena Williams August 6
Thank you once again for all the love and support. Sadly today did not go as I had hoped, and I did not advance to the final. But after 3 weeks of dealing with my back injury and not being able to train I can hold my head high proud I gave it my best. To my wonderful family and coach and his wife who has been here to help me through, thank you so much!!! I am so grateful to have been able to represent my country. I am blessed to have so much love and support.
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Re: 2012 OG: wSP–Adams (20.40) in, Camarena-Williams out

Postby andyjgt » Mon Aug 06, 2012 10:34 am

Flumpy I think for once Ostapchuk IS reproducing her form from in Belarus...21.31!

Val needs a PB!
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Re: 2012 OG: wSP–Adams (20.40) in, Camarena-Williams out

Postby Flumpy » Mon Aug 06, 2012 10:35 am

URGH!!!
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Re: 2012 OG: wSP–Adams (20.40) in, Camarena-Williams out

Postby croflash » Mon Aug 06, 2012 10:42 am

Ostapchuk improves to 21.36m.
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Re: 2012 OG: wSP–Adams (20.40) in, Camarena-Williams out

Postby errolM » Mon Aug 06, 2012 10:47 am

Val is not going to get this. Dammit.

Seeing Jeter and Ostapchuk compete within 1 minute of each other is a life-affirming experience. My phone's predicative spelling gave Beyer instead of Jeter.

Android obviously knows no fear.
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Re: 2012 OG: wSP–Adams (20.40) in, Camarena-Williams out

Postby jeremyp » Mon Aug 06, 2012 10:58 am

We are watching the greatest display of woman's putting in the modern era. Even Adams at her best would be hard pressed to win.
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Re: 2012 OG: wSP–Adams (20.40) in, Camarena-Williams out

Postby BisonHurdler » Mon Aug 06, 2012 11:00 am

jeremyp wrote:We are watching the greatest display of woman's putting in the modern era. Even Adams at her best would be hard pressed to win.


Most definitely. This is ridiculous.
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Re: 2012 OG: wSP–Adams (20.40) in, Camarena-Williams out

Postby errolM » Mon Aug 06, 2012 11:02 am

jeremyp wrote:We are watching the greatest display of woman's putting in the modern era. Even Adams at her best would be hard pressed to win.


She's good enough to have won medals 40 years ago.

Wonderful and amazing. It's the sheer depth of the competition that makes it so great.

Jess made me cry. This will do the same.
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Re: 2012 OG: wSP–Adams (20.40) in, Camarena-Williams out

Postby EPelle » Mon Aug 06, 2012 11:04 am

So much for Ostapchuk not performing significantly well outside of BLR.
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Re: ¶2012 OG: wSP–Nadzeya Ostapchuk (Belarus) 70-1 (21.36)

Postby Flumpy » Mon Aug 06, 2012 11:09 am

Val is crying :cry:
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Re: ¶2012 OG: wSP–Nadzeya Ostapchuk (Belarus) 70-1 (21.36)

Postby ldnbloke » Mon Aug 06, 2012 3:14 pm

Guys, please don't be mean. Ostapchuk is not muscles only and has a bit more total body fat on her than other athletes . The thing is, medically if you're an overweight man you're likely to have more oestrogens than skinny lads and if you're an overweight lady there's more of the male sex hormones around.
Ostapchuk has a perfectly reasonable improvement this year and I'm happy for her win. It'll make for better rivalry with Adams and maybe DL meetings will put SP during the TV coverage and bill these ladies as attractions for the meet . I miss field events in DL etc, it's not just bout bolt, blake gay and Gatlin.
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Re: ¶2012 OG: wSP–Nadzeya Ostapchuk (Belarus) 70-1 (21.36)

Postby gh » Mon Aug 06, 2012 3:31 pm

Unless you're willing to have your picture posted in public and the etherdom at general free to comment, shut the fuck up about how athletes look—particularly women—and go away. Is that clear enough?
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Re: ¶2012 OG: wSP–Nadzeya Ostapchuk (Belarus) 70-1 (21.36)

Postby AS » Mon Aug 06, 2012 5:18 pm

Eyeballing the all-time list, it seems the 20.22 in 4th place is the longest 4th place throw in any shot put comp since Oct 1, 1988!

http://www.alltime-athletics.com/wshotok.htm
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Re: ¶2012 OG: wSP–Nadzeya Ostapchuk (Belarus) 70-1 (21.36)

Postby Diego Sahagún » Mon Aug 06, 2012 5:51 pm

Ostapchuk was the fastest putter in the circle though she doesn't launch shots from the height of valerie or the bronce Russian
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Re: ¶2012 OG: wSP–Nadzeya Ostapchuk (Belarus) 70-1 (21.36)

Postby shotputter » Mon Aug 06, 2012 7:01 pm

Ostapchuk is not muscles only and has a bit more total body fat on her than other athletes .

She also doesn't look that big in person as she is on the screen. I was in the same hotel as her at the European Cup Winter Throwing in Montenegro this year.

I saw Valerie Adams in Zurich and she is even more imposing than she is on the screen.
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