dbirds wrote:No reason clay shouldn't be allowed until Olympic deadline to get A standard - he wouldn't be taking anyone's spot!
What, he should compete in another decathlon in the next few weeks and then two weeks later compete in London? Bottom line is that he's currently physically incapable and really gutted it out to finish this one.
dbirds wrote:No reason clay shouldn't be allowed until Olympic deadline to get A standard - he wouldn't be taking anyone's spot!
But then any other athletes that did not get the "A" after the trials will be allowed to chase the standard. I would love to see Clay compete in London but I do not think that they will break there own rules just so one (great) athlete can compete. Maybe next time they will change the rules so an athlete can chase the "A" as long as it is not instead of another athlete.
I just tweeted every person that I follow on Espn.com complaining that ashton eaton story not on headlines - Espn is bias vs sports they don't cover #bs!!
dbirds wrote:No reason clay shouldn't be allowed until Olympic deadline to get A standard - he wouldn't be taking anyone's spot!
Other than that the Q time has long been established, there is a reason decathletes only do two/three/four a year.. they have to recharge. If Clay miraculously eaked out an 8200 between now and August, he would have no chance in London.
bruce3404 wrote:What, he should compete in another decathlon in the next few weeks and then two weeks later compete in London? Bottom line is that he's currently physically incapable and really gutted it out to finish this one.
I think it's a stretch to say he's currently physically incapable. He was still in good shape after day-1, despite the poor HJ (which was undoubtedly affected by the weather) and the horrendous 400m. He was neck-and-neck with Eaton (who ran 13.70) in the 110's before his fall into hurdle #10. After that, I think it's hard to reach much into his performances in the final 4 events (he was still unaware of his reinstatement in the hurdles during his discus).
Grasshopper wrote:I think it's a stretch to say he's currently physically incapable. He was still in good shape after day-1, despite the poor HJ (which was undoubtedly affected by the weather) and the horrendous 400m. He was neck-and-neck with Eaton (who ran 13.70) in the 110's before his fall into hurdle #10. After that, I think it's hard to reach much into his performances in the final 4 events (he was still unaware of his reinstatement in the hurdles during his discus).
I was there and he was limping around something awful between attempts. Perhaps that will show up on the TV replays.
Eaton moves to #4 on the all-time list for Decathlon totals based on personal bests (9348 pts), behind Clay (9350), Michael Smith (9362), and Dan O'Brien (9572 ).
bman wrote:Hold the phone Clay says in that flotrack interview that his coach told him after the meet that he could still make the A standard and make the team.
That's what I heard and hope, too (see my post a little way above), but GH seems to think Clay's been misinformed and it's misguided hope. I just don't see the benefit to ANYONE from leaving a spot open on the team if/when someone potentially could fill it.
Marlow wrote:Didn't see Beamon's 8.90, but thought it the ultimate athletic performance (UAP).
DID see MJ's 19.32 and IT was the UAP.
Didn't see Bolt's WRs and thought they were the UAPs
DID see AE's 9039 and now think IT is the AUP - mostly because of the cruddy weather conditions.
Who sprints 10.21, LJs 27', PVs 5.30 and THEN runs the equivalent of a 4:34 Mile?!
He is now the world's greatest athlete amd that was his greatest performance, so the rest of the posers can just go home now!!!!!
The difference being that Beamon, MJ, and Bolt all obliterated the WR's whereas Eaton must barely topped it, which is only to say that this highlights how underrated Sebrle's WR and greatness was. All praises for Eaton's awesomeness today, but as a fan of Sebrle I just wish he'd have recieved more credit while the record was still his.
Grasshopper wrote: as a fan of Sebrle I just wish he'd have recieved more credit while the record was still his.
I agree, but did Sebrle compete in these gawdawful conditions?
No, but his record was set in a small'ish multi-event meet without a home-track, home-crowd, spend-the-rest-night-in-your-own-bed advantage. Again, not meaning to take anything away from Eaton, just trying to highlight how good Sebrle's record was.
Grasshopper wrote: as a fan of Sebrle I just wish he'd have recieved more credit while the record was still his.
I agree, but did Sebrle compete in these gawdawful conditions?
No, but his record was set in a small'ish multi-event meet without a home-track, home-crowd, spend-the-rest-night-in-your-own-bed advantage. Again, not meaning to take anything away from Eaton, just trying to highlight how good Sebrle's record was.
I'll take the better conditions, but you do have a good point. Best line from the announcer (Dr. Z?). "This should cancel the Czech"
bman wrote:Hold the phone Clay says in that flotrack interview that his coach told him after the meet that he could still make the A standard and make the team.
That's what I heard and hope, too (see my post a little way above), but GH seems to think Clay's been misinformed and it's misguided hope. I just don't see the benefit to ANYONE from leaving a spot open on the team if/when someone potentially could fill it.
From USATF site (underline mine): "USATF must turn nominations over to the USOC on July 2 thus athletes must have met the Olympic standard by the end of their individual event at the Trials. There will be NO CHASING OF STANDARDS. "
Marlow wrote:DID see MJ's 19.32 and IT was the UAP.
Still have that as #1. MJ elevated the WR to another level, and he did so at the Olympics and after winning the 400. Ashton is close, though; outstanding performance today.
Al in NYC wrote:From USATF site (underline mine): "USATF must turn nominations over to the USOC on July 2 thus athletes must have met the Olympic standard by the end of their individual event at the Trials. There will be NO CHASING OF STANDARDS. "
I'm well aware of the stated policy, but this is USATF we're talking about. It's not like they've never made exceptions before. It also still doesn't answer the question regarding the benefit of leaving an Olympic Team spot empty.
It sure would be nice to be able to watch or relive the world record somewhere for those outside the US and without needing to search for hours. It's 2012, you know...
croflash wrote:It sure would be nice to be able to watch or relive the world record somewhere for those outside the US and without needing to search for hours. It's 2012, you know...
croflash wrote:It sure would be nice to be able to watch or relive the world record somewhere for those outside the US and without needing to search for hours. It's 2012, you know...