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Re: ¶2012OT mDec—Ashton Eaton 9039 WR!!!!!

Postby bruce3404 » Sat Jun 23, 2012 8:18 pm

dbirds wrote:No reason clay shouldn't be allowed until
Olympic deadline to get A standard - he wouldn't be taking anyone's spot!


What, he should compete in another decathlon in the next few weeks and then two weeks later compete in London? Bottom line is that he's currently physically incapable and really gutted it out to finish this one.
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Re: ¶2012OT mDec—Ashton Eaton 9039 WR!!!!!

Postby olorin » Sat Jun 23, 2012 8:21 pm

dbirds wrote:No reason clay shouldn't be allowed until
Olympic deadline to get A standard - he wouldn't be taking anyone's spot!


But then any other athletes that did not get the "A" after the trials will be allowed to chase the standard. I would love to see Clay compete in London but I do not think that they will break there own rules just so one (great) athlete can compete.
Maybe next time they will change the rules so an athlete can chase the "A" as long as it is not instead of another athlete.
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Re: ¶2012OT mDec—Ashton Eaton 9039 WR!!!!!

Postby dbirds » Sat Jun 23, 2012 8:23 pm

They should allow all events that don't have 3 qualifiers to chase standard. If more than one make it then higher Ot finisher gets in!
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Re: ¶2012OT mDec—Ashton Eaton 9039 WR!!!!!

Postby dbirds » Sat Jun 23, 2012 8:25 pm

I just tweeted every person that I follow on Espn.com complaining that ashton eaton story not on headlines - Espn is bias vs sports they don't cover #bs!!
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Re: ¶2012OT mDec—Ashton Eaton 9039 WR!!!!!

Postby lonewolf » Sat Jun 23, 2012 8:26 pm

dbirds wrote:No reason clay shouldn't be allowed until
Olympic deadline to get A standard - he wouldn't be taking anyone's spot!

Other than that the Q time has long been established, there is a reason decathletes only do two/three/four a year.. they have to recharge. If Clay miraculously eaked out an 8200 between now and August, he would have no chance in London.
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Re: ¶2012OT mDec—Ashton Eaton 9039 WR!!!!!

Postby Bruce Kritzler » Sat Jun 23, 2012 8:27 pm

Looks like Detmer gave up 3rd place overall, by letting Eaton beat him in the 1500.
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Re: ¶2012OT mDec—Ashton Eaton 9039 WR!!!!!

Postby olorin » Sat Jun 23, 2012 8:28 pm

LTS wrote:Just wondering.

1. Last Dec WR set on US soil?

2. Last Dec WR set on US soil by an American?

3. Number of WR's set in Eugene?


1. Daily Thompson 8798 In the LA Olympic 1984

2. Bruce Jenner 8538 in the OT in 1976

3. Have no idea
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Re: ¶2012OT mDec—Ashton Eaton 9039 WR!!!!!

Postby lonewolf » Sat Jun 23, 2012 8:30 pm

Bruce Kritzler wrote:Looks like Detmer gave up 3rd place overall, by letting Eaton beat him in the 1500.

Ouch! That is being too nice.. :(
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Re: ¶2012OT mDec—Ashton Eaton 9039 WR!!!!!

Postby Grasshopper » Sat Jun 23, 2012 8:33 pm

bruce3404 wrote:What, he should compete in another decathlon in the next few weeks and then two weeks later compete in London? Bottom line is that he's currently physically incapable and really gutted it out to finish this one.

I think it's a stretch to say he's currently physically incapable. He was still in good shape after day-1, despite the poor HJ (which was undoubtedly affected by the weather) and the horrendous 400m. He was neck-and-neck with Eaton (who ran 13.70) in the 110's before his fall into hurdle #10. After that, I think it's hard to reach much into his performances in the final 4 events (he was still unaware of his reinstatement in the hurdles during his discus).
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Re: ¶2012OT mDec—Ashton Eaton 9039 WR!!!!!

Postby j-a-m » Sat Jun 23, 2012 8:35 pm

LTS wrote:Number of WR's set in Eugene?

Four: Rafer Johnson, Bruce Jenner (twice), Ashton Eaton.
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Re: ¶2012OT mDec—Ashton Eaton 9039 WR!!!!!

Postby bruce3404 » Sat Jun 23, 2012 8:38 pm

Grasshopper wrote:I think it's a stretch to say he's currently physically incapable. He was still in good shape after day-1, despite the poor HJ (which was undoubtedly affected by the weather) and the horrendous 400m. He was neck-and-neck with Eaton (who ran 13.70) in the 110's before his fall into hurdle #10. After that, I think it's hard to reach much into his performances in the final 4 events (he was still unaware of his reinstatement in the hurdles during his discus).


I was there and he was limping around something awful between attempts. Perhaps that will show up on the TV replays.
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Re: ¶2012OT mDec—Ashton Eaton 9039 WR!!!!!

Postby toyracer » Sat Jun 23, 2012 8:43 pm

Fantastic. Simply, fantastic. I just loved what Beach did, and his reaction to seeing the time Eaton had just run.

http://global.fncstatic.com/static/Decathlon.jpg
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Re: ¶2012OT mDec—Ashton Eaton 9039 WR!!!!!

Postby Grasshopper » Sat Jun 23, 2012 8:44 pm

Here's Clay's post-deca interview from FloTrack: "http://www.flotrack.org/coverage/248612-2012-US-Olympic-Team-Trials-Track-Field/video/643632-Bryan-Claye-after-Dec-at-2012-Olympic-Trials"

Sounds like he's not planning on retirement just yet :D .
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Re: ¶2012OT mDec—Ashton Eaton 9039 WR!!!!!

Postby 79. » Sat Jun 23, 2012 8:55 pm

Merci, merci Ashton for these moments of anthology !!!
A statue for EATON in the fabulous history of track and field.
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Re: ¶2012OT mDec—Ashton Eaton 9039 WR!!!!!

Postby Grasshopper » Sat Jun 23, 2012 9:05 pm

Eaton moves to #4 on the all-time list for Decathlon totals based on personal bests (9348 pts), behind Clay (9350), Michael Smith (9362), and Dan O'Brien (9572 :shock: ).
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Re: ¶2012OT mDec—Ashton Eaton 9039 WR!!!!!

Postby bman » Sat Jun 23, 2012 9:43 pm

Hold the phone Clay says in that flotrack interview that his coach told him after the meet that he could still make the A standard and make the team.
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Re: ¶2012OT mDec—Ashton Eaton 9039 WR!!!!!

Postby lonewolf » Sat Jun 23, 2012 9:45 pm

So, whadda we know? :?
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Re: ¶2012OT mDec—Ashton Eaton 9039 WR!!!!!

Postby Grasshopper » Sat Jun 23, 2012 9:47 pm

bman wrote:Hold the phone Clay says in that flotrack interview that his coach told him after the meet that he could still make the A standard and make the team.

That's what I heard and hope, too (see my post a little way above), but GH seems to think Clay's been misinformed and it's misguided hope. I just don't see the benefit to ANYONE from leaving a spot open on the team if/when someone potentially could fill it.
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Re: ¶2012OT mDec—Ashton Eaton 9039 WR!!!!!

Postby Marlow » Sat Jun 23, 2012 9:48 pm

Didn't see Beamon's 8.90, but thought it the ultimate athletic performance (UAP).

DID see MJ's 19.32 and IT was the UAP.

Didn't see Bolt's WRs and thought they were the UAPs

DID see AE's 9039 and now think IT is the AUP - mostly because of the cruddy weather conditions.

Who sprints 10.21, LJs 27', PVs 5.30 and THEN runs the equivalent of a 4:34 Mile?!

He is now the world's greatest athlete amd that was his greatest performance, so the rest of the posers can just go home now!!!!!
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Re: ¶2012OT mDec—Ashton Eaton 9039 WR!!!!!

Postby lonewolf » Sat Jun 23, 2012 9:51 pm

I second the motion.
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Re: ¶2012OT mDec—Ashton Eaton 9039 WR!!!!!

Postby ATK » Sat Jun 23, 2012 9:57 pm

Marlow wrote:DID see AE's 9039 and now think IT is the AUP - mostly because of the cruddy weather conditions

Almost ultimate performance? Should he have run sub 4 in the 15?
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Re: ¶2012OT mDec—Ashton Eaton 9039 WR!!!!!

Postby Grasshopper » Sat Jun 23, 2012 9:58 pm

Marlow wrote:Didn't see Beamon's 8.90, but thought it the ultimate athletic performance (UAP).

DID see MJ's 19.32 and IT was the UAP.

Didn't see Bolt's WRs and thought they were the UAPs

DID see AE's 9039 and now think IT is the AUP - mostly because of the cruddy weather conditions.

Who sprints 10.21, LJs 27', PVs 5.30 and THEN runs the equivalent of a 4:34 Mile?!

He is now the world's greatest athlete amd that was his greatest performance, so the rest of the posers can just go home now!!!!!

The difference being that Beamon, MJ, and Bolt all obliterated the WR's whereas Eaton must barely topped it, which is only to say that this highlights how underrated Sebrle's WR and greatness was. All praises for Eaton's awesomeness today, but as a fan of Sebrle I just wish he'd have recieved more credit while the record was still his.
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Re: ¶2012OT mDec—Ashton Eaton 9039 WR!!!!!

Postby Marlow » Sat Jun 23, 2012 10:03 pm

Grasshopper wrote: as a fan of Sebrle I just wish he'd have recieved more credit while the record was still his.

I agree, but did Sebrle compete in these gawdawful conditions?
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Re: ¶2012OT mDec—Ashton Eaton 9039 WR!!!!!

Postby Grasshopper » Sat Jun 23, 2012 10:09 pm

Marlow wrote:
Grasshopper wrote: as a fan of Sebrle I just wish he'd have recieved more credit while the record was still his.

I agree, but did Sebrle compete in these gawdawful conditions?

No, but his record was set in a small'ish multi-event meet without a home-track, home-crowd, spend-the-rest-night-in-your-own-bed advantage. Again, not meaning to take anything away from Eaton, just trying to highlight how good Sebrle's record was.
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Re: ¶2012OT mDec—Ashton Eaton 9039 WR!!!!!

Postby Marlow » Sat Jun 23, 2012 10:15 pm

Grasshopper wrote:
Marlow wrote:
Grasshopper wrote: as a fan of Sebrle I just wish he'd have recieved more credit while the record was still his.

I agree, but did Sebrle compete in these gawdawful conditions?

No, but his record was set in a small'ish multi-event meet without a home-track, home-crowd, spend-the-rest-night-in-your-own-bed advantage. Again, not meaning to take anything away from Eaton, just trying to highlight how good Sebrle's record was.

I'll take the better conditions, but you do have a good point. Best line from the announcer (Dr. Z?). "This should cancel the Czech"
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Re: ¶2012OT mDec—Ashton Eaton 9039 WR!!!!!

Postby Al in NYC » Sat Jun 23, 2012 10:22 pm

Grasshopper wrote:
bman wrote:Hold the phone Clay says in that flotrack interview that his coach told him after the meet that he could still make the A standard and make the team.

That's what I heard and hope, too (see my post a little way above), but GH seems to think Clay's been misinformed and it's misguided hope. I just don't see the benefit to ANYONE from leaving a spot open on the team if/when someone potentially could fill it.


From USATF site (underline mine):
"USATF must turn nominations over to the USOC on July 2 thus athletes must have met the Olympic standard by the end of their individual event at the Trials. There will be NO CHASING OF STANDARDS. "

Edit:
It's in Section 2, a, under the heading "Track & Field" on page 8 of this USOC document that spells out USATF's selection procedure for the 2012 Olympics:
http://www.usatf.org/events/2012/Olympi ... nature.pdf
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Re: ¶2012OT mDec—Ashton Eaton 9039 WR!!!!!

Postby j-a-m » Sat Jun 23, 2012 10:24 pm

Marlow wrote:DID see MJ's 19.32 and IT was the UAP.

Still have that as #1. MJ elevated the WR to another level, and he did so at the Olympics and after winning the 400. Ashton is close, though; outstanding performance today.
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Re: ¶2012OT mDec—Ashton Eaton 9039 WR!!!!!

Postby Grasshopper » Sat Jun 23, 2012 10:35 pm

Al in NYC wrote:From USATF site (underline mine):
"USATF must turn nominations over to the USOC on July 2 thus athletes must have met the Olympic standard by the end of their individual event at the Trials. There will be NO CHASING OF STANDARDS. "

Edit:
It's in Section 2, a, under the heading "Track & Field" on page 8 of this USOC document that spells out USATF's selection procedure for the 2012 Olympics:
http://www.usatf.org/events/2012/Olympi ... nature.pdf

I'm well aware of the stated policy, but this is USATF we're talking about. It's not like they've never made exceptions before. It also still doesn't answer the question regarding the benefit of leaving an Olympic Team spot empty.
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Re: ¶2012OT mDec—Ashton Eaton 9039 WR!!!!!

Postby croflash » Sat Jun 23, 2012 10:42 pm

It sure would be nice to be able to watch or relive the world record somewhere for those outside the US and without needing to search for hours. It's 2012, you know...
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Re: ¶2012OT mDec—Ashton Eaton 9039 WR!!!!!

Postby Al in NYC » Sat Jun 23, 2012 11:14 pm

croflash wrote:It sure would be nice to be able to watch or relive the world record somewhere for those outside the US and without needing to search for hours. It's 2012, you know...


http://www.nbcolympics.com/video/track- ... ecord.html
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Re: ¶2012OT mDec—Ashton Eaton 9039 WR!!!!!

Postby croflash » Sat Jun 23, 2012 11:28 pm

Al in NYC wrote:
croflash wrote:It sure would be nice to be able to watch or relive the world record somewhere for those outside the US and without needing to search for hours. It's 2012, you know...


http://www.nbcolympics.com/video/track- ... ecord.html


NBC's content is territory restricted :wink:

Of course there are ways to circumvent that, but I have got no interest in doing it.
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Re: ¶2012OT mDec—Ashton Eaton 9039 WR!!!!!

Postby TrackCEO » Sat Jun 23, 2012 11:34 pm

In my story on Clay's conflicted feelings (about whether to quit after the hurdles), he said his coaches were investigating whether he could try another dec:
http://glendora.patch.com/articles/brya ... al-by-fire

Also see my videos of Bryan in the press tent.

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Re: ¶2012OT mDec—Ashton Eaton 9039 WR!!!!!

Postby Atanvarno » Sat Jun 23, 2012 11:36 pm

Al in NYC wrote:http://www.nbcolympics.com/video/track-and-field/ashton-eaton-sets-decathlon-world-record.html


NBC is only allowed to show Olympic competition video on the internet to users in the United States and U.S. Territories. :(
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Re: ¶2012OT mDec—Ashton Eaton 9039 WR!!!!!

Postby TrackCEO » Sat Jun 23, 2012 11:48 pm

Here's NBC video of Bryan Clay's hurdle race at the Trials:
http://www.nbcolympics.com/video/track- ... mpics.html

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Re: ¶2012OT mDec—Ashton Eaton 9039 WR!!!!!

Postby gibson » Sun Jun 24, 2012 12:35 am

Gotzis - site of the Roman Šebrle world record.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0iNamrYAVA
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6tzis

a "small" meet in a very small town in sebrle's back yard.

no doubt eaton gains point from the hayward majic.
in the OG good weather will provide as many points as the hayward majic does.
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