USATF Indoors - Sharon Day 4805 AR


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USATF Indoors - Sharon Day 4805 AR

Postby Jon » Fri Feb 21, 2014 3:40 pm

Sharon Day is currently on US record pace in the pentathlon.

8.44 pb in 60m hurdles
1.88m in high jump (her best ever in a pentathlon)
15.59m outright PB in the shot
6.09m in the long jump (indoor PB)

She needs just 2:16.87 in the 800m for the record. Her PR is almost five seconds quicker than that.
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Re: USATF Indoors

Postby gktrack » Fri Feb 21, 2014 3:56 pm

I calculate the same...
8.44 = 1030
1.88 = 1080
15.59 = 900
6.09 = 877
4-event total of 3887
AR = 4753, so as you said, needs 2:16.87 = 867

Her outdoor PR = 2:08.94 and indoor PR = 2:11.89...

Go Sharon!
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Re: USATF Indoors

Postby olorin » Fri Feb 21, 2014 4:15 pm

Jon wrote:Sharon Day is currently on US record pace in the pentathlon.

8.44 pb in 60m hurdles
1.88m in high jump (her best ever in a pentathlon)
15.59m outright PB in the shot
6.09m in round one of the long jump (indoor PB)

She needs just 2:16.87 in the 800m for the record. Her PR is almost five seconds quicker than that.

Behind her Sami Spenner is also having a good competition:
60h - 8.52PB (8.57)
HJ - 1.76PB (1.73)
SP 12.25 (12.60)
LJ - 6.34 (6.32)
She is likely to score ~4450 (4406). I really hope the stupid bureaucrats will let her compete in the NCAA which should be a great competition
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Re: USATF Indoors

Postby Jon » Fri Feb 21, 2014 4:18 pm

If the top four equal their indoor 800m PBs, their scores will be:
Day 4824
Nwaba 4463
Spenner 4474
Lettow 4333

All big PBs.
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Re: USATF Indoors

Postby gktrack » Fri Feb 21, 2014 4:22 pm

...and Gray Horn having a great meet on the men's side...

just cleared 2.07 / 6-9.5 in the HJ - ties his PR
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Re: USATF Indoors

Postby aaronk » Fri Feb 21, 2014 4:31 pm

olorin wrote:
Jon wrote:Sharon Day is currently on US record pace in the pentathlon.

8.44 pb in 60m hurdles
1.88m in high jump (her best ever in a pentathlon)
15.59m outright PB in the shot
6.09m in round one of the long jump (indoor PB)

She needs just 2:16.87 in the 800m for the record. Her PR is almost five seconds quicker than that.

Behind her Sami Spenner is also having a good competition:
60h - 8.52PB (8.57)
HJ - 1.76PB (1.73)
SP 12.25 (12.60)
LJ - 6.34 (6.32)
She is likely to score ~4450 (4406). I really hope the stupid bureaucrats will let her compete in the NCAA which should be a great competition


I second....and third....and fourth!!....that emotion!!

SCREW the NCAA!!
GO SAMI!!!!!
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Re: USATF Indoors

Postby olorin » Fri Feb 21, 2014 4:44 pm

gktrack wrote:...and Gray Horn having a great meet on the men's side...

just cleared 2.07 / 6-9.5 in the HJ - ties his PR

You got to love Gray Horn
Much less talented than Nixon, Beach, Taiwo, Cato and company and yet a competition after competition he is able to bring his A game in almost all events.
He is likely to score more than 6104 points and rank in the top three in the world. Unfortunately, it will not get him the ticket to Sopot as we are five days past the deadline.
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Re: USATF Indoors

Postby gktrack » Fri Feb 21, 2014 4:50 pm

Yes, gotta love his effort(s). PR's would take him past 6200 (not an unreasonable assumption given he's been near all his PR's thus far this meet). For perspective, only 4 Americans have scored over 6250 (Eaton, O'Brien, Clay and Pappas).
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Re: USATF Indoors

Postby Jon » Fri Feb 21, 2014 4:55 pm

Sharon Day 4805 AR & WL. 12th world all-time.
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Re: USATF Indoors

Postby olorin » Fri Feb 21, 2014 4:56 pm

Day 4805AR
Spenner 4498 and and PB in the 800 (2:12.87)
Nwaba 4406 (not so good 800)
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Re: USATF Indoors

Postby gktrack » Fri Feb 21, 2014 4:58 pm

Congrats to Sharon Day

and also to Sami Spenner, I believe 4498 is #6 American performer all-time, and #3 all-time collegiate behind Alcide and Theisen (so, Sami = #1 US collegiate) - I assume she's considered a college athlete for record purposes even though she can't compete in the NCAA's?
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Re: USATF Indoors

Postby 26mi235 » Fri Feb 21, 2014 9:16 pm

olorin wrote:
gktrack wrote:...and Gray Horn having a great meet on the men's side...

just cleared 2.07 / 6-9.5 in the HJ - ties his PR

You got to love Gray Horn
Much less talented than Nixon, Beach, Taiwo, Cato and company and yet a competition after competition he is able to bring his A game in almost all events.
He is likely to score more than 6104 points and rank in the top three in the world. Unfortunately, it will not get him the ticket to Sopot as we are five days past the deadline.


Yes, but many of the top guys (Eaton) and top collegians have not really competed yet, so he is unlikely to be top 5 and might not be top 10 by the end.
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Re: USATF Indoors

Postby Mighty Favog » Sat Feb 22, 2014 4:47 am

gktrack wrote:Congrats to Sharon Day

and also to Sami Spenner, I believe 4498 is #6 American performer all-time, and #3 all-time collegiate behind Alcide and Theisen (so, Sami = #1 US collegiate) - I assume she's considered a college athlete for record purposes even though she can't compete in the NCAA's?

As far as I know, collegiate lists and records are only kept by TFN so what the NCAA wants doesn't really matter.
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Re: USATF Indoors

Postby Dave » Sat Feb 22, 2014 8:35 am

olorin wrote:
gktrack wrote:...and Gray Horn having a great meet on the men's side...

just cleared 2.07 / 6-9.5 in the HJ - ties his PR

You got to love Gray Horn
Much less talented than Nixon, Beach, Taiwo, Cato and company and yet a competition after competition he is able to bring his A game in almost all events.
He is likely to score more than 6104 points and rank in the top three in the world. Unfortunately, it will not get him the ticket to Sopot as we are five days past the deadline.


Why would they have this meet after the final cutoff for Sopot? On the face of it, that seems really stupid. Am I missing something?
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Re: USATF Indoors - Sharon Day 4805 AR

Postby DecFan » Sat Feb 22, 2014 9:12 am

Horn with a PR in the 60h 8.03 (previous PR 8.09). Looking very good.
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Re: USATF Indoors - Sharon Day 4805 AR

Postby ATK » Sat Feb 22, 2014 11:29 am

For reference, didnt see it on the front page, but Live streaming is here from USATF TV
http://www.usatf.tv/gprofile.php?do=vid ... _id=105016

Doc Patton one of the commentators.
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Re: USATF Indoors - Sharon Day 4805 AR

Postby unclezadok » Sat Feb 22, 2014 11:44 am

I still can't figure out why American heptathletes long jump so badly. I mean for world class par is about 21 feet. Jumps in the 19s aren't going to get it done.
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Re: USATF Indoors - Sharon Day 4805 AR

Postby DecFan » Sat Feb 22, 2014 11:59 am

Horn clears 4.90 in the PV (PR 5.00). With more than a 300 point lead, he's won the competition. The only question is how high he will score. To hit 6200, he needs to run 2:36.7. His PR is about 2:40, from 2011; that time would yield 6163. Each second is worth about 11 points. With the win secure, will he go all out?

Race will be livestreamed at 1:45 Mt time, 3:45 Eastern.
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Re: USATF Indoors - Sharon Day 4805 AR

Postby gktrack » Sat Feb 22, 2014 12:16 pm

Thanks DecFan... 6200 has a nice ring to it, but no clue what 1000m shape he's in, or how he'll approach the 1000, etc. 6156 would put him on top-10 all-time US performer list. Regardless, he's had a great meet, it was fun following him.
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Re: USATF Indoors - Sharon Day 4805 AR

Postby DecFan » Sat Feb 22, 2014 12:50 pm

Horn 2:48, total 6071. Good competition.
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Re: USATF Indoors - Sharon Day 4805 AR

Postby olorin » Sat Feb 22, 2014 2:17 pm

unclezadok wrote:I still can't figure out why American heptathletes long jump so badly. I mean for world class par is about 21 feet. Jumps in the 19s aren't going to get it done.

The wind of change -
Of the current crop of young Heptathletes few are jumping around 21 feet and are likely to improve as they mature.
Sami Spenner - 6.34
Kandell Williams - 6.34
Erica Bougard - 6.43
Chelsea CARRIER-EADES - 6.42

The problem is that all the above are horrible in throws with PBs of less than 13m and 40m.
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Re: USATF Indoors - Sharon Day 4805 AR

Postby norunner » Sat Feb 22, 2014 2:50 pm

olorin wrote:
unclezadok wrote:I still can't figure out why American heptathletes long jump so badly. I mean for world class par is about 21 feet. Jumps in the 19s aren't going to get it done.

The wind of change -
Of the current crop of young Heptathletes few are jumping around 21 feet and are likely to improve as they mature.
Sami Spenner - 6.34
Kandell Williams - 6.34
Erica Bougard - 6.43
Chelsea CARRIER-EADES - 6.42

The problem is that all the above are horrible in throws with PBs of less than 13m and 40m.
Look at what Jessica Ennis did as a junior, 6.20 LJ, 12.70 SP, 32m JT.
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Re: USATF Indoors - Sharon Day 4805 AR

Postby olorin » Sat Feb 22, 2014 3:19 pm

norunner wrote:
olorin wrote:
unclezadok wrote:I still can't figure out why American heptathletes long jump so badly. I mean for world class par is about 21 feet. Jumps in the 19s aren't going to get it done.

The wind of change -
Of the current crop of young Heptathletes few are jumping around 21 feet and are likely to improve as they mature.
Sami Spenner - 6.34
Kandell Williams - 6.34
Erica Bougard - 6.43
Chelsea CARRIER-EADES - 6.42

The problem is that all the above are horrible in throws with PBs of less than 13m and 40m.
Look at what Jessica Ennis did as a junior, 6.20 LJ, 12.70 SP, 32m JT.


Yes, but for every Ennis that made it, there are 10 Heptathletes that were unable to substantially improve their throws and continue to progress in the other five events.

But being the ever optimist, I believe that (at least) one of them (Kandell Williams?) will be able to do so.
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