Lavillenie 6.16m WR [20-2½!]


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Re: Lavillenie 6.16m WR [20-2½!]

Postby Marlow » Sat Feb 15, 2014 6:40 pm

26mi235 wrote:His sprint times might be slow but he may not be particularly good at the 50-100m segment and his start might be extremely mediocre. Neither of those two factors matters a whit for the vault. He seems fast on the runway to me. Also important is the ability to do it half a dozen times over a short interval, not something sprinters face.

Right - all the pole knows is how fast you're going when the pole hits the back of the box. It's harder than it looks to maintain speed at the plant and many world-class PVers cannot. Not only does he, but as I pointed out above, he overbends the pole more than anyone I've seen. If he keeps pushing all the way thru inversion, that's a whole lot of potential energy stored in the pole.
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Re: Lavillenie 6.16m WR [20-2½!]

Postby polevaultpower » Sat Feb 15, 2014 8:32 pm

gh wrote:
user4 wrote:….
However allow me to question one thing: Can we compare these raised runways to the old runways of the pre 1990s ?.. Something tells me that there is bound to be more bounce running on these hollow structures.


The video isn't very conclusive, but it's my understanding that Donets'k doesn't have raised runways. I could well be wrong.

In any case, a "hollow structure" doesn't necessarily have any bounce. Depends on the framing.


Yes, they are raised runways... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvA7AZEyciM
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Re: Lavillenie 6.16m WR [20-2½!]

Postby polevaultpower » Sun Feb 16, 2014 8:52 am

http://www.watchathletics.com/article/7 ... or-champs/

The Frenchman cut his inside foot when landing on the mats after clearing 6.16m. He was taken to a local hospital after the competition where several stitches were put to close up the injury. According to information from his former coach Gill, 12 stitches were put to close up the wound.

"I still have three weeks to get prepared and I do not want to give up, Even on one leg I will give all I have," Said Lavillenie.
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Re: Lavillenie 6.16m WR [20-2½!]

Postby Powell » Sun Feb 16, 2014 11:52 pm

polevaultpower wrote:"I still have three weeks to get prepared and I do not want to give up, Even on one leg I will give all I have," Said Lavillenie.
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But at this point it looks unlikely he'll be 100% in Sopot, even if he does compete.
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Re: Lavillenie 6.16m WR [20-2½!]

Postby Sasuke » Mon Feb 17, 2014 12:30 am

Powell wrote:
polevaultpower wrote:"I still have three weeks to get prepared and I do not want to give up, Even on one leg I will give all I have," Said Lavillenie.


But at this point it looks unlikely he'll be 100% in Sopot, even if he does compete.[/quote]

That's true but... do you remember Steven Hooker? He won jumping just once or twice in Berlin in 2009. His competitors are not in great shape (rule out the most dangerous ones, Otto and Holdzeppe) and he can easily get the win with a 5.85/5.90 clearance.
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Re: Lavillenie 6.16m WR [20-2½!]

Postby Powell » Mon Feb 17, 2014 1:09 am

Sasuke wrote:His competitors are not in great shape (rule out the most dangerous ones, Otto and Holdzeppe) and he can easily get the win with a 5.85/5.90 clearance.


That's true, but after his series this winter, a win with 5.85 would be a major letdown. The WIC are not like the outdoor WC; it's considered perfectly OK for a major star to skip them. I'm wondering whether it wouldn't be wiser to do just that rather than risk further injury by competing.
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Re: Lavillenie 6.16m WR [20-2½!]

Postby Sasuke » Mon Feb 17, 2014 2:37 am

Powell wrote:
Sasuke wrote:His competitors are not in great shape (rule out the most dangerous ones, Otto and Holdzeppe) and he can easily get the win with a 5.85/5.90 clearance.


That's true, but after his series this winter, a win with 5.85 would be a major letdown. The WIC are not like the outdoor WC; it's considered perfectly OK for a major star to skip them. I'm wondering whether it wouldn't be wiser to do just that rather than risk further injury by competing.


Yeah, that's true as well. He is rather young and will have many other opportunities to win medals... it all depends on his injury and on how he is going to feel in three weeks.
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Re: Lavillenie 6.16m WR [20-2½!]

Postby Jon » Mon Feb 17, 2014 7:32 am

He has now pulled out of the World Indoors.
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Re: Lavillenie 6.16m WR [20-2½!]

Postby scottmitchell74 » Mon Feb 17, 2014 7:51 am

Congrats to him! It's both sad and exciting when new records are made. This was a long time coming. Looking forward to seeing if the rest of the vaulters will join him and they all make a great leap forward, so to speak.
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Re: Lavillenie 6.16m WR [20-2½!]

Postby norunner » Mon Feb 17, 2014 8:20 am

Jon wrote:He has now pulled out of the World Indoors.
So there are no favorites left, this could be fun, maybe it'll turn out to be a real nailbiter like the hep last year in Moscow which was actually more exciting without the big favs.
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Re: Lavillenie 6.16m WR [20-2½!]

Postby polevaultpower » Mon Feb 17, 2014 6:32 pm

I am sure that if you asked any pole vaulter if they would rather break Bubka's world record, or win the World Indoor Championships, they would all choose the world record :)

Hopefully the foot heals quickly and he is back for an exciting outdoor season!
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Re: Lavillenie 6.16m WR [20-2½!]

Postby tandfman » Thu Feb 20, 2014 8:12 am

A link to a photo of his injured foot (with stitches) now appears on the front page.
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Re: Lavillenie 6.16m WR [20-2½!]

Postby gh » Thu Feb 20, 2014 8:14 am

with MANY stitches!
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Re: Lavillenie 6.16m WR [20-2½!]

Postby Dave » Thu Feb 20, 2014 1:00 pm

gh wrote:with MANY stitches!


That is nasty looking. I am really surprised he hung around to sign autographs rather than getting immediate attention from on site people.
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Re: Lavillenie 6.16m WR [20-2½!]

Postby lonewolf » Thu Feb 20, 2014 1:29 pm

Ouch!!!!! What did he cut his foot on? Wasn't he wearing a shoe?
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Re: Lavillenie 6.16m WR [20-2½!]

Postby dec7000 » Thu Feb 20, 2014 1:58 pm

That's far worse than I originally thought! My first impression was that he cut his ankle on the edge of the raised runway but this cut appears to have gone through his shoe. I wonder if has also damaged the heel with the impact of the landing - sort of triple jumpers heel but worse.

Also, did he miss the box? His pole appeared to be up against the base of the bed when he was flung back.
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Re: Lavillenie 6.16m WR [20-2½!]

Postby user4 » Thu Feb 20, 2014 2:18 pm

When, how exactly did this happen ?... very sad, perhaps time to rethink the equipment/facilities layout. Any videos of the injury please post.
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Re: Lavillenie 6.16m WR [20-2½!]

Postby dec7000 » Thu Feb 20, 2014 3:24 pm

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Re: Lavillenie 6.16m WR [20-2½!]

Postby user4 » Thu Feb 20, 2014 3:29 pm

Seems a padded skirt / cushioned apron on either side of the raised runway is the right solution.

In hindsight it is hard to understand how such a hard edged raised runway could have been approved in the first place. It is an obvious hazard.
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