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Re: 2014 result of multi-event athletes- Maksimava 4686p WL

Postby nianchengyu » Sat Feb 15, 2014 7:26 am

Dutch heptathlon result so far:
1 HARDEE, Trey (BM) USA 2697 6.75 973 7.34 896 15.63 828 0.00 0
2 1 SINTNICOLAAS , Eelco AV '34 2594 7.04 868 7.59 957 14.66pb 769 0.00 0
3 18 PLAETSEN VD, Thomas (BM) Belgie 2541 7.24 799 7.78 1005 14.14 737 0.00 0
4 14 VOS, Ingmar PAC 2460 7.14 833 7.32 891 14.13 736 0.00 0
5 2 BRAUN, Pieter Sprint 2372 7.31 775 7.39 908 13.35 689 0.00 0
6 5 JEHEE, Pim AAV '36 2342 7.17 823 7.32 891 12.35 628 0.00 0
7 6 VLOON, Menno Lycurgus 2333 7.09 851 7.11 840 12.59 642 0.00 0
8 3 MARKIES, Bas AV '34 2275 7.28 785 7.04 823 12.99 667 0.00 0
9 10 WIJNGAARD VAN DEN, Bart Scorpio 2206 7.33 769 6.73 750 13.33 687 0.00 0
10 13 NUYTINCK, Steven AAV '36 2177 7.24 799 7.13 845 10.78 533 0.00 0
11 11 COOPS, Robin Hellas 2097 7.22 806 6.76 757 10.81 534 0.00 0
12 9 SAMAN, Adriaan AV '34 2077 7.70 650 6.66 734 13.43 693 0.00 0
13 8 TICHELOVEN, Thomas Lycurgus 1965 7.42 739 6.57 713 10.46 513 0.00 0
14 12 THOLL VAN, Alain AV '23 1950 7.29 782 6.40 675 10.13 493 0.00 0
15 4 KUIN, Ronald Daventria 1723 7.64 668 6.01 589 9.67 466 0.00 0
16 7 LAM, Daniel Phanos 1428 DIS 0 7.01 816 12.09 612 0.00 0
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Re: 2014 result of multi-event athletes-Hardee leads with26

Postby nianchengyu » Sat Feb 15, 2014 8:27 am

Good job by schippers,in 3 hours she participated in LJ,60m heat and final,achieving 6.43m indoor pb in LJ by 4 attempt ,and 7.17s in 60m being her best mark except last year EIC 7.15s and 7.14s.
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Re: 2014 result of multi-event athletes- Maksimava 4686p WL

Postby olorin » Sat Feb 15, 2014 1:31 pm

nianchengyu wrote:Dutch heptathlon result so far:
1 HARDEE, Trey (BM) USA 2697 6.75 973 7.34 896 15.63 828 0.00 0
2 1 SINTNICOLAAS , Eelco AV '34 2594 7.04 868 7.59 957 14.66pb 769 0.00 0
3 18 PLAETSEN VD, Thomas (BM) Belgie 2541 7.24 799 7.78 1005 14.14 737 0.00 0

After four events Hardee leads with 3519 points (2.02 HJ) Plaetsen is second with 3419 points (2.08 HJ) and Sintinicolaas is third (couln't find his exact score).
All three have a good second day (especially in the PV) and should all score above 6104 to take the first three places in the world list.
Ninchengyu can you post your link to the results?

Edit: Sintnicolaas third with 3416 (2.02 HJ). He should be able to overtake Plaetsen and finish behind Hardee (assuming no disasters).
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Re: 2014 result of multi-event athletes-Hardee leads with35

Postby unclezadok » Sat Feb 15, 2014 3:27 pm

It's a good sign that Hardee had 2.02 in the HJ.
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Re: 2014 result of multi-event athletes-Hardee leads with35

Postby 26mi235 » Sat Feb 15, 2014 3:47 pm

Cato just destroyed the Wisconsin school record with a 5.55/18-2.5 (the 5.40 from Ziemek at NCAAs a year ago). Ziemek had a SB of 5.16 while Lazas was only 5.01. Going with his 7.50 and 219, it would seem that if Cato can it a good shot (and he will be around 7 and 8 in the 60s), he should be the favorite to finally win NCAAs (after two seconds). In fact, his total could approach all by Eaton's. [a 8.00/770/13.50/219/7.00/555/2:45 yields a 6431, not really going to happen, but there is a lot of room for a pretty good score]
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Re: 2014 result of multi-event athletes-Hardee leads with35

Postby unclezadok » Sat Feb 15, 2014 5:23 pm

Jeez, Cato could almost drop-kick the SP and win the NCAAs with those jumps.
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Re: 2014 result of multi-event athletes-Hardee leads with35

Postby 26mi235 » Sat Feb 15, 2014 5:36 pm

Now that Cato is at 219/555/785, where does he stand among multi guys (of course, those are all PRs, not made during Hept/Deca's)? His jumps and sprint/hurdles PRs yield 4991 while the jumps plus the 60h is 4112.
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Re: 2014 result of multi-event athletes-Hardee leads with35

Postby eiluke » Sat Feb 15, 2014 11:09 pm

It these 5.55 are verified, this lifts Cato to the all time #1 overall with a combined score of 3087 pts in the jumps! (not just among the dectathletes, but those who can do these 3 events are of course all decathletes)
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Re: 2014 result of multi-event athletes-Hardee leads with35

Postby olorin » Sat Feb 15, 2014 11:14 pm

26mi235 wrote:Now that Cato is at 219/555/785, where does he stand among multi guys (of course, those are all PRs, not made during Hept/Deca's)? His jumps and sprint/hurdles PRs yield 4991 while the jumps plus the 60h is 4112.


The sum of his jumps PBs is equal to 3087 points which is better than all elite decathletes (top 30). Eaton has a sum pf PBs of 3046 Sebrle 3005 O'Brian 2986 and Pappas 2985.
Of the current crop Sintnicolaas has 2924.
Note that this is based on a partial list so I may have few omissions.
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Re: 2014 result of multi-event athletes-Hardee leads with35

Postby eiluke » Sun Feb 16, 2014 1:50 am

you do even underestimate some of the mentiond names olorin. I posted a table (page 3 of this thread) a few days ago
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Re: 2014 result of multi-event athletes-Hardee leads with35

Postby olorin » Sun Feb 16, 2014 2:17 am

eiluke wrote:you do even underestimate some of the mentiond names olorin. I posted a table (page 3 of this thread) a few days ago

Missed your table.
We do have different marks for some of the athletes. For example, you have O'Brien with a PB of 2.20 (same as Decathlon 2000) while according to my list (and all-athletics) he has 2.13. Generally, the realiability of all-athletics is lower for old marks so I guess you are likely to be right.
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Re: 2014 result of multi-event athletes-Hardee leads with35

Postby nianchengyu » Sun Feb 16, 2014 2:22 am

Here is the link of the NED combined events:
http://www.liveresults.nl/2014021516/schedule.html
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Re: 2014 result of multi-event athletes-Hardee leads with35

Postby nianchengyu » Sun Feb 16, 2014 2:25 am

The first event is concluded,Boersen did not in it:
1 60 JOHNSON-THOMPSON (BM), Kat Groot-Brittannie 1010 8.53 1010
2 63 GOOR, Myrte Sprint 976 8.69 976
3 69 BAKKER, Lieke PEC 1910 873 9.18 873
4 62 LUSSENBURG, Gejanne Isala '96 869 9.20 869
5 64 MULLER, Lieke Groningen Atletiek 856 9.26 856
6 66 KONIG, Vere Ciko '66 800 9.54 800
7 67 DROST, Lisanne Athlos 759 9.75 759
8 61 SWINKELS, Eefje HAC 742 9.84 742
9 65 LIGTEN VAN, Froukje Ciko '66 699 10.07 699
10 73 WIELES, Samyre Typhoon 681 10.17 681
11 70 KIEL, Pamela Rotterdam Atletiek 664 10.26 664
12 72 BUUREN VAN, Nikky AV '40 528 11.05 528
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Re: 2014 result of multi-event athletes-Hardee leads with35

Postby nianchengyu » Sun Feb 16, 2014 2:38 am

THEISEN-EATON ran her best 60mH by changing her techniques over hurdles,and jumping indoor LJ pb.
60mH ind. 8.17 New York (USA) 15.02.2014
Long Jump ind. 6.18 New York (USA) 15.02.2014
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Re: 2014 result of multi-event athletes-Hardee leads with35

Postby nianchengyu » Sun Feb 16, 2014 3:07 am

KJT seemed to withdraw from pentathlon,I did not find her in HJ list.
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Re: 2014 result of multi-event athletes-Hardee leads with35

Postby nevetsllim » Sun Feb 16, 2014 4:12 am

^As confirmed by her on Twitter. She's been suffering from a bad cold all weekend but still wanted to give it a go. The selection process for the World Indoors always baffles me but she's probably done for the indoor season.
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Re: 2014 result of multi-event athletes-Hardee leads with35

Postby Sasuke » Sun Feb 16, 2014 4:24 am

Why can't she just go for the HJ or the long jump or even both? Her marks could easily make her go into the final...
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Re: 2014 result of multi-event athletes-Hardee leads with35

Postby norunner » Sun Feb 16, 2014 4:26 am

nevetsllim wrote:^As confirmed by her on Twitter. She's been suffering from a bad cold all weekend but still wanted to give it a go. The selection process for the World Indoors always baffles me but she's probably done for the indoor season.
Which selection process? For the pen, the jumps or the british one? Because she has the standards for both HJ and LJ, and with 6.75 she may even get close to the medals.
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Re: 2014 result of multi-event athletes-Hardee leads with35

Postby nevetsllim » Sun Feb 16, 2014 4:34 am

norunner wrote:
nevetsllim wrote:^As confirmed by her on Twitter. She's been suffering from a bad cold all weekend but still wanted to give it a go. The selection process for the World Indoors always baffles me but she's probably done for the indoor season.
Which selection process? For the pen, the jumps or the british one? Because she has the standards for both HJ and LJ, and with 6.75 she may even get close to the medals.


The invitation process for the multi-events in Sopot, I meant.

I don't think she'll bother to compete in individual events at the World Indoors. Sounds like the pentathlon was her only goal.
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Re: 2014 result of multi-event athletes- Maksimava 4686p WL

Postby olorin » Sun Feb 16, 2014 5:01 am

aaronk wrote:Kendell Williams, the HSR holder with her 4068 from 2013, recently did 4302 for what I believe is an Age 17 best.
So we now have a best-ever for 16 AND 17 year old's this year!!
(ADD:: OOPS!! Kendell's now 18. She was 17 when she did the 4068!)

For comparison, here's (side by side) Lake's and William's marks"

KW 8.40 5-11.25 36-9.50 20-6.25 2:26.64
ML 8.97 6-0.75 43-11.50 19-3.25 2:24.48


Two big PBs for Kandell williams in College Station Texas Invitational:
60h 8.24 (old PB 8.32)
SP 12.58 (old PB 11.21)
Her big weakness (compared with other Americans) is the 800 (PB 2:26.64). If she will improve it to something semi-decent (~2:16) she is likely to win the NCAA and be the second best American behind Day.
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Re: 2014 result of multi-event athletes-Hardee leads with35

Postby norunner » Sun Feb 16, 2014 7:40 am

nevetsllim wrote:
norunner wrote:The invitation process for the multi-events in Sopot, I meant.

I don't think she'll bother to compete in individual events at the World Indoors. Sounds like the pentathlon was her only goal.
But how would you change it? With only eight athletes there will always be those left out.
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Re: 2014 result of multi-event athletes-Hardee leads with35

Postby dec7000 » Sun Feb 16, 2014 10:08 am

Result of heptathlon from Holland:

1 1 SINTNICOLAAS , Eelco 87 AV34 6242
2 PLAETSEN VD, Thomas (BM) 90 BEL 6188
3 HARDEE, Trey (BM) 84 USA 5959

Hardee ran 3.15 in the 1000m! Did he fall?
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Re: 2014 result of multi-event athletes-Hardee leads with35

Postby MDelano » Sun Feb 16, 2014 10:55 am

dec7000 wrote:Result of heptathlon from Holland:

1 1 SINTNICOLAAS , Eelco 87 AV34 6242
2 PLAETSEN VD, Thomas (BM) 90 BEL 6188
3 HARDEE, Trey (BM) 84 USA 5959

Hardee ran 3.15 in the 1000m! Did he fall?


No fall but cramp in both hamstrings forced him to slow down the pace.
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Re: 2014 result of multi-event athletes-Hardee leads with35

Postby Fortius19 » Sun Feb 16, 2014 11:11 am

What is up with cramps and Trey? Wasn't that the same thing that did him in last year at Moscow?
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Re: 2014 result of multi-event athletes-Hardee leads with35

Postby odelltrclan » Sun Feb 16, 2014 11:23 am

MDelano wrote:
dec7000 wrote:Result of heptathlon from Holland:

1 1 SINTNICOLAAS , Eelco 87 AV34 6242
2 PLAETSEN VD, Thomas (BM) 90 BEL 6188
3 HARDEE, Trey (BM) 84 USA 5959

Hardee ran 3.15 in the 1000m! Did he fall?


No fall but cramp in both hamstrings forced him to slow down the pace.


Maybe he needs to hydrate better. This cramping seems to be a common problem.
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Re: 2014 result of multi-event athletes-Hardee leads with35

Postby nevetsllim » Sun Feb 16, 2014 11:56 am

norunner wrote:
nevetsllim wrote:
norunner wrote:The invitation process for the multi-events in Sopot, I meant.

I don't think she'll bother to compete in individual events at the World Indoors. Sounds like the pentathlon was her only goal.
But how would you change it? With only eight athletes there will always be those left out.


I didn't say I want to change it! I just said I found the criteria used to draw up the invitation list a bit confusing!
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Re: 2014 result of multi-event athletes-Hardee leads with35

Postby norunner » Sun Feb 16, 2014 2:28 pm

nevetsllim wrote:
norunner wrote:
nevetsllim wrote:
norunner wrote:The invitation process for the multi-events in Sopot, I meant.

I don't think she'll bother to compete in individual events at the World Indoors. Sounds like the pentathlon was her only goal.
But how would you change it? With only eight athletes there will always be those left out.


I didn't say I want to change it! I just said I found the criteria used to draw up the invitation list a bit confusing!
I actually think KJT has a good chance of being invited, after her incredible HJ and LJ the IAAF should give her the free spot, i don't seen anyone else who performed like she did.
Not confusing at all, three best outdoors, three best indoors, winner of the challenge and one free invite, seems very straight forward. It could get confusing if the winners of the challenge decline, but that's not the case.
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Re: 2014 result of multi-event athletes-Hardee leads with35

Postby Jon » Sun Feb 16, 2014 3:11 pm

Two notable marks from this weekend:
Pavel Rudnev 6022 (previous best 5745, dec PB of 7620)
Alina Fyodorova 4596

Fyodorova's mark puts her at 3rd on this year's world lists, which means she'll get an invite. The women's wild card entry is a toss-up between:

Butvina (ranked highest of 'the rest' this year)
Johnson-Thompson (highest finisher of 'the rest' at last year's World Champs)
Tyminska (Polish medal hope and highest PB of 'the rest')

Rudnev now enters the fray alongside Nixon and Shkurenyev.

This table sums up the situation:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BgoYXq0CMAEu3Cu.jpg:large
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Re: 2014 result of multi-event athletes-Hardee leads with35

Postby andyjgt » Sun Feb 16, 2014 3:35 pm

Where was Fyodorova's performance done? (BTW it isn't a PB, she did 4622 last year at the NC, but only 4420 at the EC.) Also, got a breakdown?
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Re: 2014 result of multi-event athletes-Hardee leads with35

Postby Jon » Sun Feb 16, 2014 4:06 pm

andyjgt wrote:Where was Fyodorova's performance done? (BTW it isn't a PB, she did 4622 last year at the NC, but only 4420 at the EC.) Also, got a breakdown?
Yep, I know it's not a PB :-)

It was at the Hungarian Championships. Her marks were 8.65, 1.75m, 15.34m, 6.34m, 2:17.61.
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Re: 2014 result of multi-event athletes-Hardee leads with35

Postby gh » Sun Feb 16, 2014 4:28 pm

Jon wrote:...
Butvina (ranked highest of 'the rest' this year)
Johnson-Thompson (highest finisher of 'the rest' at last year's World Champs)
Tyminska (Polish medal hope and highest PB of 'the rest')...


I'm guessing the fix is in, but giving it to Tyminska would be just fine by me.
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Re: 2014 result of multi-event athletes-Hardee leads with35

Postby andyjgt » Mon Feb 17, 2014 1:16 am

Jon wrote:
andyjgt wrote:Where was Fyodorova's performance done? (BTW it isn't a PB, she did 4622 last year at the NC, but only 4420 at the EC.) Also, got a breakdown?
Yep, I know it's not a PB :-)

It was at the Hungarian Championships. Her marks were 8.65, 1.75m, 15.34m, 6.34m, 2:17.61.


Thanks. So her HJ was well below par. She did 1.90 last year at the ECCE! (but only 13.97 in the shot, and DNF the hep in the end). Excellent shot here!

She's a bit like Maksimava (and Skujyte to a degree), good at both HJ (usually) and SP but not hurdles, though her LJ here was good.
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Re: 2014 result of multi-event athletes-Hardee leads with35

Postby Gabriella » Mon Feb 17, 2014 1:55 am

gh wrote:
Jon wrote:...
Butvina (ranked highest of 'the rest' this year)
Johnson-Thompson (highest finisher of 'the rest' at last year's World Champs)
Tyminska (Polish medal hope and highest PB of 'the rest')...


I'm guessing the fix is in, but giving it to Tyminska would be just fine by me.


I agree. There's no point giving it to the next best ranked athlete, otherwise what's the point in calling it a wild card? It'd just be the top 4 ranked indoors.

It makes sense to give it to Tyminska; local girl, solid performances last year and this year. KJT would be a good wild card but the fact that she had to pull out of the Dutch championships doesn't bode well. Not sure how bad she is (it was suggested she had a cold/flu rather than injury) or how much effort the local organising committee go to in finding out how fit and healthy athletes are.
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Re: 2014 result of multi-event athletes-Hardee leads with35

Postby Powell » Mon Feb 17, 2014 1:59 am

norunner wrote:With only eight athletes there will always be those left out.


To me, the question is: why only eight? I understand the need for a limit due to logistical considerations, but this seems unnecessarily harsh. European Indoor Champs have 15 participants in multis and they seem to manage just fine; in the WIC, the limit was 12 until 1999, and I don't remember hearing of any huge timetable problems resulting from that.
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Re: 2014 result of multi-event athletes-Hardee leads with35

Postby Gabriella » Mon Feb 17, 2014 2:07 am

Powell wrote:
norunner wrote:With only eight athletes there will always be those left out.


To me, the question is: why only eight? I understand the need for a limit due to logistical considerations, but this seems unnecessarily harsh. European Indoor Champs have 15 participants in multis and they seem to manage just fine; in the WIC, the limit was 12 until 1999, and I don't remember hearing of any huge timetable problems resulting from that.


It's part of this horrible move to streamline viewing and reduce field events to a bare minimum.

I would love for them to suggest only the top 12 or 8 in every sprint event. There would be uproar.
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Postby Powell » Mon Feb 17, 2014 2:19 am

Gabriella wrote:It's part of this horrible move to streamline viewing and reduce field events to a bare minimum.


I know, but would 12 instead of 8 really ruin the WIC?
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Re: 2014 result of multi-event athletes-Hardee leads with35

Postby Gabriella » Mon Feb 17, 2014 8:15 am

The invites have gone out today to the athletes at the top of this years indoor lists and Van De Plaetsen has accepted. Not sure if the wild card invite has gone out though.
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Re: 2014 result of multi-event athletes-Hardee leads with35

Postby nevetsllim » Tue Feb 18, 2014 8:56 am

Powell wrote:
Gabriella wrote:It's part of this horrible move to streamline viewing and reduce field events to a bare minimum.


I know, but would 12 instead of 8 really ruin the WIC?


Kelly Sotherton was saying she prefers the World Indoors format of eight competitors because the infield can get quite congested indoors with sprawling fields, and they compete directly against each other as they can all be drawn in one race for the track events.
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Postby nianchengyu » Wed Feb 19, 2014 9:26 pm

Klucinova ran 8.60s pb in 60H and jumped 6.23m indoor pb in LJ.Farkas has such result as follwing:
60mH ind. 8.68 Budapest (HUN) 16.02.2014
Long Jump ind. 6.11 Budapest (HUN) 09.02.2014
Shot Put ind. 13.97 PB Budapest (HUN) 09.02.2014
BTW,Thiam had 14.22m IPB in SP.
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Re: 2014 result of multi-event athletes-

Postby nevetsllim » Sun Feb 23, 2014 3:12 pm

Maksimava set an outright high jump PB of 1.93m at the Belarussian Indoor Champs. She only jumped 1.86m en route to her 4686 lifetime best a few weeks ago so there is room for improvement in Sopot.
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