Euro Athletes Of The Year


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Re: Euro Athletes Of The Year

Postby gh » Thu Oct 17, 2013 2:31 pm

26mi235 wrote:It is why I am possibly slightly less impressed by Bondarenko than others are. I brought it up in the context of thinking that other athletes ought at least be in the discussion. When T&FNews does their AOY I expect at least one of that esteemed panel to not have Bondarenko as their first choice and possibly to have Mo Farah ahead of him. .....


I can assure you that some (too many for my liking) voters will give Bolt and Farah undue credit for being No. 1 in two events. I personally think of 1/2 and 5/10 doubles as just single wins.
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Re: Euro Athletes Of The Year

Postby nevetsllim » Fri Oct 18, 2013 2:58 am

I was initially considering Aregawi but her season wasn't as impressive as I initially thought (more of an oversight on my behalf). Her 3:56 was a phenomenal performance but I thought she had a few more outdoor sub-4:00 times on her resume.

On the other hand, Hejnova had more depth in terms of her performances (52.83, 53.07, 53.23, 53.32, 53.32) as well as going unbeaten in 2013.
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Re: Euro Athletes Of The Year

Postby 26mi235 » Fri Oct 18, 2013 1:29 pm

gh wrote:
26mi235 wrote:It is why I am possibly slightly less impressed by Bondarenko than others are. I brought it up in the context of thinking that other athletes ought at least be in the discussion. When T&FNews does their AOY I expect at least one of that esteemed panel to not have Bondarenko as their first choice and possibly to have Mo Farah ahead of him. .....


I can assure you that some (too many for my liking) voters will give Bolt and Farah undue credit for being No. 1 in two events. I personally think of 1/2 and 5/10 doubles as just single wins.


It is easier to come back from running 3 100s (the first two not really that hard) to run the 200s, again the first easy, the second controlled. However, not many can run the 10,000 and come back fresh enough to contest well the 5000. Still, the 5/10 are rather similar in a manner similar to the 100/200. And, of course, the high jumpers have no real second event to compete in, as there really are no events in the HJ body-type/strength elements.
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Re: Euro Athletes Of The Year

Postby berkeley » Thu Oct 24, 2013 8:19 pm

gh wrote:I can assure you that some (too many for my liking) voters will give Bolt and Farah undue credit for being No. 1 in two events. I personally think of 1/2 and 5/10 doubles as just single wins.

So, does it follow that if a distance runner wins the 5 or 10, and does not contest the other, he is less worthy of an AOY vote than a winning high jumper ? That's also hard to agree with, because it must he harder to win two events than one. It's a vexing question. Perhaps winning one distance race and losing the other might rate lower than winning the high jump. I guess the significance of the winning marks, and quality of the opposition, should dominate the decision.
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Re: Euro Athletes Of The Year

Postby jjimbojames » Fri Oct 25, 2013 4:15 am

Winning one distance / sprint is equal to winning the HJ or any other event. To win the 5k you're up against 10k and 1500m runners and to win the 10k you're up against 5k and marathoners - just because it's the same activity doesn't make it likely to win both - hence why we rarely see double winners. Those that do are simply better than their opposition and surely deserve credit for that - not lumping their wins together

In the 200m, it's normally the one that hasn't doubled (either in the 100m or the 400m) who wins - see VCB, Felix etc - what does that tell us?
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