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¶2013 Brussels DL—m5000: Alamirew 12:58.75

Postby betterthanb4 » Thu Sep 05, 2013 10:03 am

Order Athlete Nation PB SB

1-1 DERRICK Chris USA 13:09.04 13:09.04
1-2 EL HACHIMI Abdelhadi BEL 13:28.05 13:28.05
1-3 ST. LAWRENCE Ben AUS 13:10.08 13:10.83
1-4 TASAMA Faisa Dame ETH 13:12.64 13:12.64
1-5 JAGER Evan USA 13:14.60 13:14.60
1-6 BIRMINGHAM Collis AUS 13:09.57 13:27.35
1-7 TAHRI Bouabdellah FRA 13:12.29 13:17.42
1-8 HILL Ryan USA 13:14.22 13:14.22
1-9 LONGOSIWA Thomas Pkemei KEN 12:49.04 12:59.81
1-10 LAGAT Bernard USA 12:53.60 13:07.76
2-1 RUPP Galen USA 12:58.90 13:05.17
2-2 EDRIS Muktar ETH 13:03.69 13:03.69
2-3 ROP Albert BRN 12:51.96 12:51.96
2-4 ALAMIREW Yenew ETH 12:48.77 12:54.95 11 Pts
2-5 SOI Edwin Cheruiyot KEN 12:51.34 12:51.34
2-6 GEBRHIWET Hagos ETH 12:47.53 12:55.73 13 Pts
2-7 KOECH Isiah Kiplangat KEN 12:48.64 12:56.08
2-8 RONO Vincent KEN 13:21.96
2-9 HEATH Garrett USA 13:20.01 13:20.01
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Re: 2013 Van Damme (Brussels)DL- M 5000m

Postby aaronk » Thu Sep 05, 2013 10:41 am

Will THIS race live up to its pre-race hype??
It's said they're gonna take it out at sub-12:50 pace!
IF they do, the big question is....Will they continue at that pace after 2000 meters??
IF they do....then I could see 10 or 12 guys going sub-13:00....INCLUDING several Americans!!

HUGE if!!
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Re: 2013 Van Damme (Brussels)DL- M 5000m

Postby ozaloG » Fri Sep 06, 2013 5:56 am

Designated pacers are V Rono (1K) and G Heath (3K).
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Re: 2013 Van Damme (Brussels)DL- M 5000m

Postby betterthanb4 » Fri Sep 06, 2013 11:31 am

Getting underway now. Hopefully a quick time here.
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Re: 2013 Van Damme (Brussels)DL- M 5000m

Postby betterthanb4 » Fri Sep 06, 2013 11:46 am

Alamirew takes the win in 12:58.75. (DL Winner)
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Re: 2013 Van Damme (Brussels)DL- M 5000m

Postby 26mi235 » Fri Sep 06, 2013 11:48 am

Well, my guess (in the other thread seemed to be-- unfortunately -- close enough).
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Re: ¶2013 Brussels DL—m5000: Alamirew 12:58.75

Postby gh » Fri Sep 06, 2013 11:49 am

U.S. guys ran very well, including nice PR for Jager.
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Re: ¶2013 Brussels DL—m5000: Alamirew 12:58.75

Postby JumboElliott » Fri Sep 06, 2013 11:54 am

Bernard Lagat is such an amazing runner, even now.
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Re: ¶2013 Brussels DL—m5000: Alamirew 12:58.75

Postby betterthanb4 » Fri Sep 06, 2013 11:59 am

Results

1ALAMIREW Yenew ETH 12:58.75
2 LAGAT Bernard USA 12:58.99 SB
3 GEBRHIWET Hagos ETH 12:59.33
4 SOI Edwin Cheruiyot KEN 13:01.00
5 RUPP Galen USA 13:01.37 SB
6 LONGOSIWA Thomas Pkemei KEN 13:01.74
7 ROP Albert BRN 13:02.31
8 JAGER Evan USA 13:02.40 PB
9 KOECH Isiah Kiplangat KEN 13:03.98
10 EDRIS Muktar ETH 13:06.44
11 DERRICK Chris USA 13:08.04 PB
12 ST. LAWRENCE Ben AUS 13:23.87
13 TASAMA Faisa Dame ETH 13:33.05
14 EL HACHIMI Abdelhadi BEL 13:34.95
15 HILL Ryan USA 13:43.14
16 BIRMINGHAM Collis AUS 13:44.27

HEATH Garrett USA DNF
RONO Vincent KEN DNF
TAHRI Bouabdellah FRA DNF

Intermediate times:
1000mHeath, Garrett (USA)2:35.10
2000m Heath, Garrett (USA) 5:13.18
3000m Rono, Vincent (KEN)7:52.02
4000m Rop, Albert (BRN)10:28.90
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Re: ¶2013 Brussels DL—m5000: Alamirew 12:58.75

Postby hc10003 » Fri Sep 06, 2013 12:31 pm

JumboElliott wrote:Bernard Lagat is such an amazing runner, even now.


Agree! Historians: is he now the oldest to break 13:00? And did he already hold that honor? There was speculation on another thread about his decline - clearly premature as he will surely rank US #1 and world top 10, again. Amazing career of sustained excellence, one of the best ever.
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Re: ¶2013 Brussels DL—m5000: Alamirew 12:58.75

Postby aaronk » Fri Sep 06, 2013 1:34 pm

hc10003 wrote:
JumboElliott wrote:Bernard Lagat is such an amazing runner, even now.


Agree! Historians: is he now the oldest to break 13:00? And did he already hold that honor? There was speculation on another thread about his decline - clearly premature as he will surely rank US #1 and world top 10, again. Amazing career of sustained excellence, one of the best ever.


Yes, Lagat is the oldest to go sub-13.
Here is a comprehensive list of all the OUTDOOR individual year age records Lagat holds:

1500
Age 29....3:27.40 (2004)
Age 31....3:29.68 (2006)
Age 36....3:33.11 (2011)
Age 37....3:34.63 (2012)
Age 38....3:36.36 (2013

1 mile
Age 30....3:48.38 (2005)
Age 36....3:51.38 (2011)
Age 37....3:54.17 (2012)

3000
Age 35....7:29.00 (2010)
Age 36....7:32.13 (2011)

2 mile
Age 33....8:12.45 (2008)
Age 36....8:13.62 (2011)

5000
Age 35....12:54.12 (2010)
Age 36....12:53.60 (2011)
Age 37....12:59.92 (2012)
Age 38....12:58.99 (2013)

He also holds several INDOOR age records!!
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Re: ¶2013 Brussels DL—m5000: Alamirew 12:58.75

Postby betterthanb4 » Fri Sep 06, 2013 1:41 pm

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Re: ¶2013 Brussels DL—m5000: Alamirew 12:58.75

Postby odelltrclan » Fri Sep 06, 2013 2:34 pm

It was nice to see Rupp mix it up more than he has before. He took the lead with under 2 laps to go. A for effort.
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Re: ¶2013 Brussels DL—m5000: Alamirew 12:58.75

Postby 26mi235 » Fri Sep 06, 2013 4:24 pm

I thought that when they passed him it was all going to go down hill, but he kept at it pretty well. Hill is 'past use-by date' for this season (XC, great indoor, outdoor NCAA efforts, then the Trials and qualifying times). Jager made a big but not surprising jump in PR; I was more surprised by Derrick.
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Re: ¶2013 Brussels DL—m5000: Alamirew 12:58.75

Postby KevinM » Fri Sep 06, 2013 5:44 pm

26mi235 wrote: I was more surprised by Derrick.


How so?
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Re: ¶2013 Brussels DL—m5000: Alamirew 12:58.75

Postby bobguild76 » Fri Sep 06, 2013 8:51 pm


Thanks for posting this link. I wish it had more of the race though. It has been a pleasure to see American distance runners mix it up at the front again. Not everyone was there, but our #3 (Jager) came in before Eth or Ken ... when does that happen?

So nice to see Lagat with (most of) the zip back in his legs. I, for one, will miss it when he retires. What other runner has gone tooth and nail down the homestretch with El G, Bekele, and Mo? Equal measures of talent, dedication, and class. What a credit to the sport, to Kenya, and to the US!
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Re: ¶2013 Brussels DL—m5000: Alamirew 12:58.75

Postby aaronk » Sat Sep 07, 2013 12:17 am

To finish my earlier post about Lagat's age records, here is a comprehensive list of the INDOOR records Lagat holds:

1000
Age 32....2:18.12 (2007)

1500
Age 30....3:33.84 (2005)
Age 33....3:35.23 (2008)
Age 37....3:36.20 (2012)

1 mile
Age 34....3:51.34 (2009)

3000
Age 32....7:32.43 (2007)
Age 33....7:34.65 (2008)
Age 34....7:35.41 (2009)
Age 35....7:37.97 (2010)
Age 36....7:39.35 (2011)
Age 37....7:41.44 (2012)
Age 38....7:34.71 (2013)

2 mile
Age 36....8:10.07 (2011)
Age 38....8:09.49 (2013)

5000
Age 35....13:11.50 (2010)
Age 37....13:07.15 (2012)

Note his improvements at ages 37 and 38 in the 3000, 2 mile, and 5000 over earlier years!!
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Re: ¶2013 Brussels DL—m5000: Alamirew 12:58.75

Postby jlt » Sat Sep 07, 2013 10:42 am

aaronk wrote:
hc10003 wrote:
JumboElliott wrote:Bernard Lagat is such an amazing runner, even now.


here was speculation on another thread about his decline - clearly premature as he will surely rank US #1 and world top 10, again. Amazing career of sustained excellence, one of the best ever.


Here is a comprehensive list of all the OUTDOOR individual year age records Lagat holds:

1500
Age 29....3:27.40 (2004)
Age 31....3:29.68 (2006)
Age 36....3:33.11 (2011)
Age 37....3:34.63 (2012)
Age 38....3:36.36 (2013

1 mile
Age 30....3:48.38 (2005)
Age 36....3:51.38 (2011)
Age 37....3:54.17 (2012)

3000
Age 35....7:29.00 (2010)
Age 36....7:32.13 (2011)

2 mile
Age 33....8:12.45 (2008)
Age 36....8:13.62 (2011)

5000
Age 35....12:54.12 (2010)
Age 36....12:53.60 (2011)
Age 37....12:59.92 (2012)
Age 38....12:58.99 (2013)



Interesting to look at those times and recall the various races over the years!

A great run from Kip last night, perhaps less of a surprise to us than others……….but was very controlled run and a nice finish to a track season that feels like it hasn’t quite gone his way.

With 180m to go in Moscow he looked so good; so calm and composed and looking like he had a big finish to come. My instinctive reaction at the time was he finishes at worst silver. But it was not to be, in fact given how he looked it was a surprise when he “had nothing in the legs” the last 100m. But that’s track and that’s championship racing….

Kip was very keen to run well last night. Certainly sub-13 minutes (my feeling was that it wouldn’t be a race under 12:57) and top three (like he did last year in Zurich) were the goals. It would have been fantastic to hold off Alamirew however a great run and not far off a great win.

There are no set plans for next year however I’m confident he’ll be in Sopot in March to defend his 3000m world indoor title. He’s always loved world indoors; the 3k distance indoors is always a really good and competitive race (I think the perfect distance for indoors). His three wins in Budapest 2004, Doha 2010 and Istanbul 2012 are so easy to recall.

Early thoughts are also to qualify for the Continental Cup 3000 in Marrakech in September. In fact he might well run quite a few 3000s (the 1500 has looked perhaps a bit too short for him in Paris and Berlin although I can’t believe he wouldn’t still run 3:33/3:34 if he ran Rieti tomorrow). He really enjoyed winning in Linz 3000 a couple of weeks ago and would have run Zagreb this last week if it wasn’t so close to Brussels. These meets are a fun part of our sport.

Not just 3000s of course, he’ll run 5000 at Nationals and would be good to run another sub-13 minutes somewhere in 2014 also.

Obviously we’re taking it every year as it comes. Qualifying for Beijing WCH in 5000 in 2015 (which of course he’d only want to do so if he still feels genuinely competitive) is a nice thought. Let’s see…….
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Re: ¶2013 Brussels DL—m5000: Alamirew 12:58.75

Postby lovetorun » Sat Sep 07, 2013 12:32 pm

Bernard Lagat is indeed an amazing distance runner...he has the most fluid smooth stride that is probably part of the reason why he is so seldom injured. With all the hard running he's done for so many years it's remarkable how he can stay relatively injury free.
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Re: ¶2013 Brussels DL—m5000: Alamirew 12:58.75

Postby 26mi235 » Sat Sep 07, 2013 6:42 pm

KevinM wrote:
26mi235 wrote: I was more surprised by Derrick.


How so?

I did not expect him to run 13:08, 10 seconds back (low 'teens' so 13:10-13:15?).
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Re: ¶2013 Brussels DL—m5000: Alamirew 12:58.75

Postby hc10003 » Sun Sep 08, 2013 4:28 pm

jlt wrote:A great run from Kip last night, perhaps less of a surprise to us than others


Thanks jlt for the insights, really interesting to hear the first hand accounts! Great to see one of the all-time bests with another top tier performance. Wish he could've found that extra .25 sec for the win but a great run nonetheless. And after seeing yesterday, as well as the final mile of Nationals, have to agree that he still has 3:33 capacity - would be fun to see that in the right race conditions one more time.

Best wishes to Mr. Lagat for a successful close to the season at 5th Avenue!
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Re: ¶2013 Brussels DL—m5000: Alamirew 12:58.75

Postby bobguild76 » Sun Sep 08, 2013 4:47 pm

hc10003 wrote:
jlt wrote:A great run from Kip last night, perhaps less of a surprise to us than others


Thanks jlt for the insights, really interesting to hear the first hand accounts! Great to see one of the all-time bests with another top tier performance. Wish he could've found that extra .25 sec for the win but a great run nonetheless. And after seeing yesterday, as well as the final mile of Nationals, have to agree that he still has 3:33 capacity - would be fun to see that in the right race conditions one more time.

Best wishes to Mr. Lagat for a successful close to the season at 5th Avenue!

Ditto the thanks!
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Re: ¶2013 Brussels DL—m5000: Alamirew 12:58.75

Postby Bob Duncan » Sun Sep 08, 2013 5:24 pm

betterthanb4 wrote:Results
8 JAGER Evan USA 13:02.40 PB

Jager has had one helluva last two years. I wonder how many 5000's he has ever run? Even though his time at Brussels was outstanding, it was really not too surprising, giving his meteoric rise.
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Re: ¶2013 Brussels DL—m5000: Alamirew 12:58.75

Postby gh » Mon Sep 09, 2013 6:26 am

the tilastopaja database shows only 6 career 5Ks for Jager: 3 this year, 3 in '09.
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Re: ¶2013 Brussels DL—m5000: Alamirew 12:58.75

Postby exdrake » Mon Sep 09, 2013 7:49 am

Where does that put Jaeger on the all-time U.S. 5k list?
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Re: ¶2013 Brussels DL—m5000: Alamirew 12:58.75

Postby bobguild76 » Mon Sep 09, 2013 8:27 am

exdrake wrote:Where does that put Jaeger on the all-time U.S. 5k list?

#8.

1. Bernard Lagat 12:53.60 (AR)
2. Chris Solinsky 12:55.53
3. Dathan Ritzenhein 12:56.27 (AR)
4. Bob Kennedy 12:58.21 (AR)
5. Matt Tegenkanp 12:58.56
6. Galen Rupp 12:58.90
7. Sydney Maree 13:01.15 (AR)
8. Evan Jager 13:02.40

Amazing that we have 6 under 13 minutes. That number should increase as Jager, Derrick and others continue to improve.
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Re: ¶2013 Brussels DL—m5000: Alamirew 12:58.75

Postby gh » Mon Sep 09, 2013 8:55 am

and note that Derrick PRed to tighten his hold on No. 10.


9. 13:07.00i Lopez Lomong
10. 13:08.04 Chris Derrick
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