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Re: Moscow 2013 World Championship Predictions

Postby LopenUupunut » Tue Jul 30, 2013 1:34 am

Powell wrote:Majewski's record is actually a bit mixed; remember how he failed big time at the last WC?
True, but he's far more likely to find a sudden extra 30cm than Hoffa or Whiting.

His SB now is 20.89. His SB ahead of Beijing was 20.97 while the world list was topped by three guys at 22.00-22.12... It's true 2008 was somewhat different in that he'd had a couple big fouls that showed his potential, but after so many years at 21+ a lot of people will just assume the potential's there now as well.
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Re: Moscow 2013 World Championship Predictions

Postby norunner » Tue Jul 30, 2013 4:00 am

Powell wrote:Majewski's record is actually a bit mixed; remember how he failed big time at the last WC? Storl's, on the other hand, is absolutely flawless, and he regularly sets big PBs/SBs in the most important competition of the year.
Regarding Storl: The difference this year is the amount of fouls he produces. He's had several competition with only one valid attempt and even he won't be able to win a medal if he can't produce a valid 21.50+ and that's not easy to do if all those foul attempts force you to hold back.
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Re: Moscow 2013 World Championship Predictions

Postby Powell » Tue Jul 30, 2013 4:29 am

LopenUupunut wrote:His SB now is 20.89. His SB ahead of Beijing was 20.97 while the world list was topped by three guys at 22.00-22.12...


True, but if you look at his full record from that season, he was consistent at a higher level than in 2013 and was doing much better in terms of competitiveness in major meets on the circuit - never lower than 3rd (2nd Doha, 1st Moscow, 2nd Villeneuve, 1st Madrid, 3rd London, 1st Monaco - most of of those meets had top-level fields in them AFAIR). Contrast that with this year: 6th Doha, 6th NY, 10th Rome, 4th Birmingham, 5th Lausanne.
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Re: Moscow 2013 World Championship Predictions

Postby agassiz » Tue Jul 30, 2013 6:43 am

Any reason why no one has predicted the 3000 m s.chase.
Here is my pred for this event.

Mens
1 kipruto
2 kemboi
3 mehkissi benauod

Womens

1 zaripova
2 ghirib
3 chemos

Agree or disagree
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Re: Moscow 2013 World Championship Predictions

Postby 26mi235 » Tue Jul 30, 2013 7:01 am

Generally agree; could you elaborate on the 2/3 pick on the womens side?
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Re: Moscow 2013 World Championship Predictions

Postby Master Po » Tue Jul 30, 2013 7:23 am

^^ re women's steeple picks, above -- this is what makes this event hard to predict (for me at least). Some athletes, e.g., Ghribi, come to the championship having competed very little.

Regarding Chemos, she seems to be in excellent form -- she's raced 6 steeples this season, 5 on the int'l circuit + the Kenyan championships. She's won 4 of the 5 int'l races, and has finished all of them sub-9:20. Also won the Kenyan championship. Her only loss was her season opener in Doha, where she neverthless finished 5th in 9:19. Since then it's all victories, and all (save the Kenyan ch.) in 9:14-9:17.

On the other hand Ghribi has run just one steeple, finishing 7th in Doha in 9:22.

However, on the third hand, this fits Ghribi's racing & performance pattern for the past two seasons: In 2011, she raced just two steeples (both in 9:20-9:21) before Daegu. In 2012, she raced just one (9:28) before London. And of course she did rather well :) in both championships, so one probably should conclude (absent other information) that she knows what she's doing with this pattern of preparation. I guess that means I should expect her to be in the mix for a medal in Moscow.
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Re: Moscow 2013 World Championship Predictions

Postby eldanielfire » Tue Jul 30, 2013 7:32 am

agassiz wrote:Any reason why no one has predicted the 3000 m s.chase.
Here is my pred for this event.

Mens
1 kipruto
2 kemboi
3 mehkissi benauod

Womens

1 zaripova
2 ghirib
3 chemos

Agree or disagree


I'm not so sure about Ghirib at the moment. Chemos will be interesting, she has said she has run less and worked on her technique to compete for gold this year. I think she will put more pressure on Zaripova, but I've also always felt Yuliya still has more in the tank from her wins and her wins come in part due to her ability to dictate the pace of the race. Similar to Farah in that regard.
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Re: Moscow 2013 World Championship Predictions

Postby Master Po » Tue Jul 30, 2013 8:25 am

^ Comparing these 3 in terms of 1500m PB/SB is of course limited, but still worth noting:

Zaripova 4:01 PB/4:02 SB

Ghribi 4:12 PB/4:13 most recent (2011)

Chemos 4:12 PB/4:15 SB (both in Nairobi, however).

So, a limited data set to be sure, but Zaripova brings some proven speed to this event that none of these others has demonstrated. Doesn't mean they don't have it somewhere, I guess, but Zaripova has shown it.

(And Z. is a technically great, imo -- and even though it has been argued persuasively to me that this factor doesn't matter as much as it might seem in this event, at some point it still seems to me that great efficiency in technique has to contribute to effectiveness in getting to the finish line faster than an otherwise great athlete with poor technique.)
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Re: Moscow 2013 World Championship Predictions

Postby eldanielfire » Tue Jul 30, 2013 8:48 am

Master Po wrote:^ Comparing these 3 in terms of 1500m PB/SB is of course limited, but still worth noting:

Zaripova 4:01 PB/4:02 SB

Ghribi 4:12 PB/4:13 most recent (2011)

Chemos 4:12 PB/4:15 SB (both in Nairobi, however).

So, a limited data set to be sure, but Zaripova brings some proven speed to this event that none of these others has demonstrated. Doesn't mean they don't have it somewhere, I guess, but Zaripova has shown it.


Chemos started as a 800m runner like Zaripova, I wouldn't be surprised if her top end speed wasn't of a similar level.

(And Z. is a technically great, imo -- and even though it has been argued persuasively to me that this factor doesn't matter as much as it might seem in this event, at some point it still seems to me that great efficiency in technique has to contribute to effectiveness in getting to the finish line faster than an otherwise great athlete with poor technique.)


I think great technique has a few small deciding factors that build-up.

1) conserving energy

2) ensuring 4 or 5 less steps are required each lap resulting in maybe 30 less steps, it's like cutting out 40-50 metres.

3) Maintaning momentum and conserving energy by not having to force the body to accelerate. It requires more force to accelerate than it does to maintain speed.

4) Look at this camera angle for Zaripova's technique:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAFcDPiAxUA#t=05m05s

Half the women chasing her land in the water and need 2 or 3 steps to get out. Even others with good technique barely skim the water like she does and even fewer, if any, are maintaining such a high speed doing it. Even somebody like Emma Coburn who has excellent and effortless technique commentated about how exhausting it is keeping up with Zaripova's pace at the Steeple barriers.

5) Landing and jumping so effortlessly ease the pain and exhausting a long distance event like this has. Making it easier in the later stages.
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Re: Moscow 2013 World Championship Predictions

Postby eldanielfire » Wed Jul 31, 2013 4:28 am

No Ennis-Hill officially now.

The Heptathlon ahs officially overtaken the women's 400m as the most open event for both medals and the gold. I honestly can't predict who will win it at the moment. It will create a new star.
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Re: Moscow 2013 World Championship Predictions

Postby agassiz » Thu Aug 01, 2013 2:51 am

Here goes....
100 bolt gatlin carter
200 bolt weir ashmeade
400 james merrit mcqoy
800 amos symmonds solomon
1500 makloufi kiprop centrovitz
3000sc c.kipruto kemboi mekhisi
5000 farah alimarew ghebriwot
10000 farah gebrmeskal rupp
Lj menkov
Hj bondarenko kinard drouin
Tp taylor tamgho phichard
Pv lavillenie otto holtzepe
Sp hoffa whiting majeski
Dis hartig malachoski hadidi
Jav vesely tarabin thorkildsen
Hammer pars .... .....

Womens

100 safp okobare jeter
200 felix safp ohura
400 ohurugo montsho mccory
800 savinova niyonsaba moroccan lady forgot name
1500 aregawi dibaba simpson
3000sc zaripova ghiribi chemos
5000 dibaba defar cherono
10000 dibaba defar chrono
Lj reese okobare kilshina
Hj chicerova barratt skholina
Tp ibarugen saladuhu ........
Pv silva suhr isenbayeva
Jav abakomova obergfoll stahl
Discus perkovic barrios ......
Hammer lysenko
Sp adams gong

Relays
Mens 4x1 jamaica usa gb
4x4 usa bahamas

Womens

4x1 usa jamica trinidad
4x4 usa russia jamaica

Sorry no idea in the walking events and for the bad spelling..

Your thoughts
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Re: Moscow 2013 World Championship Predictions

Postby norunner » Thu Aug 01, 2013 5:06 am

eldanielfire wrote:No Ennis-Hill officially now.

The Heptathlon ahs officially overtaken the women's 400m as the most open event for both medals and the gold. I honestly can't predict who will win it at the moment. It will create a new star.
It will create a new winner, a star is something different.
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Re: Moscow 2013 World Championship Predictions

Postby Marlow » Thu Aug 01, 2013 7:23 am

norunner wrote:It will create a new winner, a star is something different.

In the micro-world of T&F, a WC Champion IS a star.
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Re: Moscow 2013 World Championship Predictions

Postby Kinkin » Thu Aug 01, 2013 8:28 am

agassiz wrote:Here goes....
100 bolt gatlin carter
200 bolt weir ashmeade
400 james merrit mcqoy
800 amos symmonds solomon
1500 makloufi kiprop centrovitz
3000sc c.kipruto kemboi mekhisi
5000 farah alimarew ghebriwot
10000 farah gebrmeskal rupp
Lj menkov
Hj bondarenko kinard drouin
Tp taylor tamgho phichard
Pv lavillenie otto holtzepe
Sp hoffa whiting majeski
Dis hartig malachoski hadidi
Jav vesely tarabin thorkildsen
Hammer pars .... .....

Womens

100 safp okobare jeter
200 felix safp ohura
400 ohurugo montsho mccory
800 savinova niyonsaba moroccan lady forgot name
1500 aregawi dibaba simpson
3000sc zaripova ghiribi chemos
5000 dibaba defar cherono
10000 dibaba defar chrono
Lj reese okobare kilshina
Hj chicerova barratt skholina
Tp ibarugen saladuhu ........
Pv silva suhr isenbayeva
Jav abakomova obergfoll stahl
Discus perkovic barrios ......
Hammer lysenko
Sp adams gong

Relays
Mens 4x1 jamaica usa gb
4x4 usa bahamas

Womens

4x1 usa jamica trinidad
4x4 usa russia jamaica

Sorry no idea in the walking events and for the bad spelling..

Your thoughts


Okagbare has not lost a 200m race dis season
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Re: Moscow 2013 World Championship Predictions

Postby fasttrak85 » Thu Aug 01, 2013 8:39 am

[color=#FF8080]aggasiz wrote :Here goes....

Womens

100 safp okobare jeter
200 felix safp ohura
400 ohurugo montsho mccory
800 savinova niyonsaba moroccan lady forgot name

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I still dont believe Ahoure will beat Duncan in the rounds in Moscow. I actually see Felix running a very fast time. I feel the fact she did so poorly last week is because her workload and intensity is very high so her taper will be very dramatic. Kersee and Felix are not newbies at this.

For some reason I dont see Ohurogu winning but medaling yes. I see the winner of the 400 either being Montsho or Krivoshapka it will take aggressiveness to win this race but intelligence as well. I dont think Mcrory is at that level yet she is consistent and will do a good job on her relay leg but right now I see her as simple a strong finalist.
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Re: Moscow 2013 World Championship Predictions

Postby 26mi235 » Thu Aug 01, 2013 9:34 am

Agree with fasttrack and note that Hadidi is not competing for the Iran Fed due to lack of support etc. (DL etc meets only for a while) as I understand it.
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Re: Moscow 2013 World Championship Predictions

Postby nevetsllim » Fri Aug 02, 2013 3:22 am

leoesharkey wrote:I love Storl and his short-long technique, the last of the east german style gliders, but he has looked terrible all season, and there are four europeans and two americans bang on 21m and Germane Lauro from Argentina, but the silver and gold will be an all american battle between Hoffa and Whiting, Majewski is recovering nicely from a shoulder opp and he has said he will be ready in Moscow, but top two aside there is the width of an envelope between 3-10 in the world, it will be fun ! :D


Majewski had shoulder surgery again?
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Re: Moscow 2013 World Championship Predictions

Postby Powell » Fri Aug 02, 2013 6:39 am

nevetsllim wrote:Majewski had shoulder surgery again?


Not just now; he had one after last season, and another one a couple of months later when it turned out the first one wasn't totally successful. That's why he took a long time to get going this season and still isn't at his best.
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Re: Moscow 2013 World Championship Predictions

Postby dvorakfan » Fri Aug 02, 2013 8:19 am

eldanielfire wrote:No Ennis-Hill officially now.

The Heptathlon ahs officially overtaken the women's 400m as the most open event for both medals and the gold. I honestly can't predict who will win it at the moment. It will create a new star.


Ashton Eaton's wife?
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Re: Moscow 2013 World Championship Predictions

Postby bruce3404 » Fri Aug 02, 2013 8:31 am

dvorakfan wrote:
eldanielfire wrote:No Ennis-Hill officially now.

The Heptathlon ahs officially overtaken the women's 400m as the most open event for both medals and the gold. I honestly can't predict who will win it at the moment. It will create a new star.


Ashton Eaton's wife?


Theisen-Eaton seems to be the favorite, but we should remember that her top score is 6440; however, she won Gotzis in terrible weather and has been performing well in individual events.
I would disagree about the W400m being the most open event since I've little doubt that I could pick 5 runners and see three on the podium (Montsho, Krivoshapka, McCorory, Hastings, Ohuruogu). I think you'd have to go about 10 deep to pick three medalists in the hep.
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Re: Moscow 2013 World Championship Predictions

Postby dvorakfan » Sat Aug 03, 2013 2:24 am

Preregistration for Athletics Prediction Contest is possible:

http://www.atletiektoto.nl/

Don't know if we should open a new thread for this...

Will there be a TFN contest this year?
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Re: Moscow 2013 World Championship Predictions

Postby dvorakfan » Sat Aug 03, 2013 11:07 am

Tried to find out the top 5 so far (no idea on marathon and walks).
The medal pick will come out of them

en
100m Bolt Gatlin Rodgers Carter Vicaut/Dasaolu
200m Bolt Weir JYoung Lemaitre Martina
400m James LMerritt KBorlee McQuay Masrahi
800m Aman Solomon Symmonds Bosse Lewandowski
1500m AKiprop SKiplagat Souleiman Birgen Manzano
5000m Farah Alamirew Soi Longosiwa IKoech ()
10000m Farah Gebremeskel Merga Rupp Kuma
3000mSt CKipruto EKemboi Mekhissi PKKOech Jager
110mH Oliver/AMerritt Brathwaite Shubenkov Wilson
400mH Tinsley Culson BJackson Sanchez Gordon
4x100m JAM USA GBR FRA ???TRI (GER)
4x400m USA BAH JAM BEL ???
HJ Bondarenko Kynard Barshim Drouin Shustov
PV Lavillenie Otto Filippidis Walker Holzdeppe
LJ Menkov Caceres Rivera Lapierre Camara
TJ Taylor/Pichardo Tamgho Claye Reve (Greco)
SP Whiting Hoffa Armstrong Strol Majewski
DT RHarting Malachowski Kanter Harradine Casanas
HT Pars Kozmus Fajdek Melich Kryvitski
JT Vesely Tarabin Pitkämäki Thorkildsen Avramenko
Dec Eaton Hardee Schrader Behrenbruch Kravchenko (Warner, Shkurenev, Sintnicolaas, Freimuth) - ?Suarez?
Marathon
20km
50km


Women
100m SAFP Okagbare Jeter Baptiste Freeman
200m Felix Ahoure SAFP Duncan Kapachinskaya
400m Montsho Krivoshapka Ohuruogu McCorory Ryzhova
800m Savinova Niyonsaba Johnson-Montano Poistogova Jepkosgei-Busienei (Martinez)
1500m Aregawi Kipyegon GDibaba Simpson Cain ()
5000m Defar TDibaba VJKibiwot MCherono Burka
10000m TDibaba Defar GCherono Oljira Flanagan
3000mSt Zaripova Chepkurui Chemos-Cheywa Assefa Ayalew
100mH Rollins Harper Pearson Harrison Porter
400mH Hejnova Shakes-Drayton Moline Demus Antyukh ()
4x100m USA JAM UKR GBR (NIG, GER, FRA, RUS)
4x400m USA RUS JAM GBR ???
HJ Barrett Chicherova Shkolina Gordeeva Beitia
PV Suhr/Silva Isinbaeva Murer Spiegelburg
LJ Reese Sokolova Proctor Deloach-Soukup Kolchanova (Okagbare)
TJ Saladuha Ibargüen Koneva Gumenyuk Knyazyeva-Minenko
SP Adams Kolodko Schwanitz Gong Carter
DT Perkovic Barrios Müller Perez Lewis-Smallwood ()
HT Lysenko Wlodarczyk Heidler Kondrateva Miankova
JT Abakumova Obergföll Stahl Rebryk Mickle
Hep Theisen/Tyminska Melnychenko Schippers Day (Ikauniece)
Marathon
20km
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Re: Moscow 2013 World Championship Predictions

Postby Tuariki » Sat Aug 03, 2013 1:46 pm

Eaton and Eaton for double gold would be something - and of course very possible
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Re: Moscow 2013 World Championship Predictions

Postby 26mi235 » Sat Aug 03, 2013 2:26 pm

Key Satan wrote:Hi guys! Was looking out for T&F community before WC and found these boards, great 2 see so many people, passioned by T&F. About WC: will some prediction contests be organized before Champs?


Welcome. There is sometimes an organized prediction contest - sometimes Marlow organizes one.
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Re: Moscow 2013 World Championship Predictions

Postby Marlow » Sat Aug 03, 2013 2:47 pm

26mi235 wrote:There is sometimes an organized prediction contest - sometimes Marlow organizes one.

If T&FN doesn't do any, I'll post a 'Pick the Winners' (all 47) thread.
Usually Letsrun and IAAF have a contest, and then there's atletiektoto mentioned above.
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Re: Moscow 2013 World Championship Predictions

Postby Alan Shank » Sun Aug 04, 2013 9:27 am

Not predictions, but forecasts, for Moscow weather during the WC, according to Accuweather app on my Blackberry:

8/10 84/58 sunny
8/11 77/60 cloudy
8/12 75/58 sunny w/shower
8/13 74/63 afternoon rain
8/14 80/62 sunny
8/15 78/61 shower
8/16 67/62 shower
8/17 76/61 rain
8/18 74/64 cloudy w/shower

Highs ranging from 19 C to 24, lows 15 to 18.

Of course, the 18th is two weeks away, so...
Cheers,
Alan Shank
Woodland, CA, USA
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Re: Moscow 2013 World Championship Predictions

Postby aaronk » Mon Aug 05, 2013 10:43 pm

To help you in your predictions, Alfonse Juck tweeted that Defar will run ONLY the 5K and Dibaba ONLY the 10K in Moscow!!
(Not confirmed!!)
Apparently, no doubling!!

Also, BIG news from the women's 800 front......Niyongaba will NOT be in Moscow......injury!!!
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Re: Moscow 2013 World Championship Predictions

Postby lionelp1 » Mon Aug 05, 2013 11:02 pm

aaronk wrote:To help you in your predictions, Alfonse Juck tweeted that Defar will run ONLY the 5K and Dibaba ONLY the 10K in Moscow!!
(Not confirmed!!)
Apparently, no doubling!!

Also, BIG news from the women's 800 front......Niyongaba will NOT be in Moscow......injury!!!


It is confirmed that Defar and Dibaba will not be meeting. Niyonsaba, btw.
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Re: Moscow 2013 World Championship Predictions

Postby aaronk » Mon Aug 05, 2013 11:08 pm

lionelp1 wrote:
aaronk wrote:To help you in your predictions, Alfonse Juck tweeted that Defar will run ONLY the 5K and Dibaba ONLY the 10K in Moscow!!
(Not confirmed!!)
Apparently, no doubling!!

Also, BIG news from the women's 800 front......Niyongaba will NOT be in Moscow......injury!!!


It is confirmed that Defar and Dibaba will not be meeting. Niyonsaba, btw.


Thanks!
Was JUST going to edit my post to correct the misspelling of her name!!
Also, note it was Alfonse Juck who tweeted about Niyonsaba, NOT about Defar & Dibaba!!
An Ethiopian tweeted the news about them, and was confirmed by the EAF!!
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Re: Moscow 2013 World Championship Predictions

Postby jjimbojames » Mon Aug 05, 2013 11:09 pm

aaronk wrote:To help you in your predictions, Alfonse Juck tweeted that Defar will run ONLY the 5K and Dibaba ONLY the 10K in Moscow!!
(Not confirmed!!)
Apparently, no doubling!!

That won't help Kenya's gold rush - they were clearly planning on them being tired!
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Re: Moscow 2013 World Championship Predictions

Postby Archi » Tue Aug 06, 2013 1:34 am

I guess bets will be voided, but there are head-to-head bets against Niyonsaba to be had at great odds. I pumped money to all bookers I could find head-to-head bets. Cant lose anything, right :)
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Re: Moscow 2013 World Championship Predictions

Postby Stooges » Tue Aug 06, 2013 1:49 am

You can´t win anything either :D . 100% void unfortunately.
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Re: Moscow 2013 World Championship Predictions

Postby Archi » Tue Aug 06, 2013 2:18 am

Yes well I'm OK with that since I also have Niyonsaba for outright win. If all bets are returned I'm fine with it :)

I did bet on Akkaoui and Montano to get top3 with good odds. Looks very likely at least one of them will take a medal, right? Niyonsaba was super strong and I believe she would have taken it down. Honestly I dont completely understand why Savinova is such a huge favourite now. Hasnt raced much so it is possible she is just getting ready back home on Russia. But it's also almost as likely that she is just not in great form with 1:58.75 her best time so far.
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Re: Moscow 2013 World Championship Predictions

Postby eldanielfire » Tue Aug 06, 2013 2:28 am

Archi wrote:Yes well I'm OK with that since I also have Niyonsaba for outright win. If all bets are returned I'm fine with it :)

I did bet on Akkaoui and Montano to get top3 with good odds. Looks very likely at least one of them will take a medal, right? Niyonsaba was super strong and I believe she would have taken it down. Honestly I dont completely understand why Savinova is such a huge favourite now. Hasnt raced much so it is possible she is just getting ready back home on Russia. But it's also almost as likely that she is just not in great form with 1:58.75 her best time so far.


Savinova is favourite because she never enters a championship any faster than 1:58s and then drops a SB best which is usually the WL to win it. She recently has the best top speed in the 800m, best finishing speed, best tactical awareness and best pace judgement. She can win from behind, she can win from being out front and is a consistent championship performer who has won everything globally at the 800m now. She has managed to dominate the 800m this for 3 seasons straight and she is only just hitting her peak years. Also from Savinova's IAAF diary she hinted she is in her best form ever in training. Meanwhile we all think Niyonsaba is BIG BIG talent, but last year suggested she still needs to learn to last the rounds in a championship.

That is why nobody would discount Savinova from being the favourite. Especially in a race where
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Re: Moscow 2013 World Championship Predictions

Postby LopenUupunut » Tue Aug 06, 2013 2:29 am

Stooges wrote:You can´t win anything either :D . 100% void unfortunately.
There's always the possibility of an erroneous payout :)

Bets on Niyonsaba to win outright will probably not be refunded, though it might depend on the bookie.
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Re: Moscow 2013 World Championship Predictions

Postby eldanielfire » Tue Aug 06, 2013 2:31 am

Archi wrote:Yes well I'm OK with that since I also have Niyonsaba for outright win. If all bets are returned I'm fine with it :)

I did bet on Akkaoui and Montano to get top3 with good odds. Looks very likely at least one of them will take a medal, right? Niyonsaba was super strong and I believe she would have taken it down. Honestly I dont completely understand why Savinova is such a huge favourite now. Hasnt raced much so it is possible she is just getting ready back home on Russia. But it's also almost as likely that she is just not in great form with 1:58.75 her best time so far.


Savinova is favourite because she never enters a championship any faster than 1:58s and then drops a SB best which is usually the WL to win it. She recently has the best top speed in the 800m, best finishing speed, best tactical awareness and best pace judgement. She can win from behind, she can win from being out front and is a consistent championship performer who has won everything globally at the 800m now. She has managed to dominate the 800m this for 3 seasons straight and she is only just hitting her peak years. Also from Savinova's IAAF diary she hinted she is in her best form ever in training. Meanwhile we all think Niyonsaba is BIG BIG talent, but last year suggested she still needs to learn to last the rounds in a championship.

That is why nobody would discount Savinova from being the favourite. Especially in a race where she is hometown favourite and shown to perform her bets on the biggest stage.
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Re: Moscow 2013 World Championship Predictions

Postby DSKlausler » Tue Aug 06, 2013 4:22 am

The big man, Mr. Oliver, to win; a clean 12.92, in good weather.
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Re: Moscow 2013 World Championship Predictions

Postby Master Po » Thu Aug 08, 2013 5:23 am

Looking at the women's Steeple start lists on the IAAF site, and I do not see Zaripova listed. :( From previous discussion in this thread, and from previous editions of the formchart, it looks like she was expected to compete. Anyone have any news on this?
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Re: Moscow 2013 World Championship Predictions

Postby Marlow » Thu Aug 08, 2013 5:27 am

Master Po wrote:Looking at the women's Steeple start lists on the IAAF site, and I do not see Zaripova listed. :( From previous discussion in this thread, and from previous editions of the formchart, it looks like she was expected to compete. Anyone have any news on this?

??!!
She's there:
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Re: Moscow 2013 World Championship Predictions

Postby Master Po » Thu Aug 08, 2013 5:47 am

^ OK, I do trust your expertise, so I hope you are correct, as I would love to see her in this competition. I guess that I must be even more of an idiot than I was yesterday (and yesterday I thought I was a total idiot), because I keep looking at the IAAF start list for this event -- which is a source I expect to be authoritative on this point -- and I continue not seeing her name there. In any case, I'll post the link I was viewing, so you or anyone or everyone can perhaps show me I'm looking at the wrong thing, or the right thing in the wrong way:

http://www.iaaf.org/competitions/iaaf-w ... sultheader
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