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Postby no one » Wed Jul 17, 2013 10:13 am

lindsey graham ... us athletics as a political weapon ...

http://nbcpolitics.nbcnews.com/_news/20 ... sylum?lite

do nothing congress doing less and less for more and more?
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Re: Graham: US should consider Olympic boycott over possible

Postby kuha » Wed Jul 17, 2013 10:25 am

This is laughably idiotic.
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Re: Graham: US should consider Olympic boycott over possible

Postby Marlow » Wed Jul 17, 2013 10:28 am

no one wrote:lindsey graham

Say no more. Viewers of The Daily Show are well versed in his risible inanities. You've got to wonder about South Carolians (says the guy from Florida, which, after last week, is the laughing stock of America).
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Re: Graham: US should consider Olympic boycott over possible

Postby 26mi235 » Wed Jul 17, 2013 10:43 am

Boycott the Olympics over possible (lack of?) Snow? :lol:
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Re: Graham: US should consider Olympic boycott over possible

Postby dj » Wed Jul 17, 2013 10:53 am

Lindsey Graham was only 24 and plowing through law school when we announced our boycott of the 1980 Games. Perhaps he can be excused for not knowing that history of futile actions. :(
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Re: Graham: US should consider Olympic boycott over possible

Postby beebee » Wed Jul 17, 2013 11:14 am

The US Congress has an all-time low 10% approval rating. No jobs bills, cut old folks medicare, take food stamps from the poor, appose anything Obama says, etc. Outside of crazy South Carolina no one listens to anything this closeted far rightwing Warmongering fool says.
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Re: Graham: US should consider Olympic boycott over possible

Postby kuha » Wed Jul 17, 2013 11:15 am

dj wrote:Lindsey Graham was only 24 and plowing through law school when we announced our boycott of the 1980 Games. Perhaps he can be excused for not knowing that history of futile actions. :(


You are sublimely charitable.
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Re: Graham: US should consider Olympic boycott over possible

Postby betterthanb4 » Wed Jul 17, 2013 11:42 am

Utter nonsense :lol:
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Re: Graham: US should consider Olympic boycott over possible

Postby batonless relay » Wed Jul 17, 2013 11:58 am

If boycotting the Sochi Olympics led to the undoing of the IOC, I would quickly endorse it.
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Re: Graham: US should consider Olympic boycott over possible

Postby icerunner » Wed Jul 17, 2013 11:59 am

My personal view is that we should not mix politics with sports because the only one who loses, is the athlete who has been working hard for years trying to do well in the WC.
On the other hand I am amazed that Americans don't look at Edward Snowden as the real hero he is. That just shows me the power of propaganda.
Edward Snowden has shown us how far governments (specially the US government) are willing to do in order to undermine the right of the general public to privacy.
He will get my vote for the next Nobel peace prize.
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Re: Graham: US should consider Olympic boycott over possible

Postby Rothosen » Wed Jul 17, 2013 12:08 pm

icerunner wrote:My personal view is that we should not mix politics with sports because the only one who loses, is the athlete who has been working hard for years trying to do well in the WC.
On the other hand I am amazed that Americans don't look at Edward Snowden as the real hero he is. That just shows me the power of propaganda.
Edward Snowden has shown us how far governments (specially the US government) are willing to do in order to undermine the right of the general public to privacy.
He will get my vote for the next Nobel peace prize.


It's only our government that dispises Edward Snowden. If you are a cockroach why wouldn't you hate the light.
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Re: Graham: US should consider Olympic boycott over possible

Postby lonewolf » Wed Jul 17, 2013 12:11 pm

Boo!!!!
Even though I am one of those right-wing crazies, I am frequently at odds with Lindsay Graham and this is his oddest/craziest idea of all.
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Re: Graham: US should consider Olympic boycott over possible

Postby icerunner » Wed Jul 17, 2013 12:17 pm

It's only our government that dispises Edward Snowden. If you are a cockroach why wouldn't you hate the light.

It is because they are afraid of being stepped on. If Snowden would come out of hiding he would be seized by the US government and get the death penalty right away that is pretty certain. Snowden knows that for a fact.
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Re: Graham: US should consider Olympic boycott over possible

Postby br » Wed Jul 17, 2013 12:26 pm

Or have we been bamboozled by Snowden?

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/07/06 ... d-snowden/

"Through this whole business, I’ve remained of two minds about Snowden’s tale. While I am certain that what he has reported is true, I’m unsure of motivation. With what I have just read, though, I think I’m getting a clearer picture. One I will try to paint for you."

"Snowden used to post on a website called Ars Technica: it’s a site for professional techies (“alpha geeks” is what the site says). He frequented the Internet Relay Chat rooms quite a lot, shooting the breeze with whoever happened by. This began when he was stationed in Geneva in 2007: an IT guy for the CIA in a foreign land, he probably enjoyed this little bit of home. His posts – under user name TheTrueHOOHA – from that time show someone who is decidedly unworldly: he complained about almost everything in Switzerland, from the price of food to the women. Over the years, he changed from an insulated, opinionated American into an opinionated, snarky ex-pat. One of the biggest changes in his opinions is what he thought of leakers. Back then, he was not a fan."
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Re: Graham: US should consider Olympic boycott over possible

Postby Tuariki » Wed Jul 17, 2013 12:34 pm

"I love the Olympics, but I hate what the Russian government is doing throughout the world," Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., told NBC News on Tuesday. "If they give asylum to a person who I believe has committed treason against the United States, that's taking it to a new level."

While I have no respect for Putin and his government it is an interesting take by Graham given Guantanamo Bay, the guaranteed absolute certainty of WMDs in Iraq, the missile bombing of the Chinese Embassy, the Kim Dotcom debacle here in New Zealand and so on.

Thank goodness that the idiots of SC who put this man in the Senate don't get to run the US Government.

If the US boycotted the Winter Olympics no one would care except the poor bastards who don't get to go. On the positive for the Lolo haters that means there will be less of her in the media. Personally, I am hoping Lolo will take up beach volleyball.
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Re: Graham: US should consider Olympic boycott over possible

Postby lonewolf » Wed Jul 17, 2013 12:42 pm

Tuariki wrote:[ Personally, I am hoping Lolo will take up beach volleyball.

Someone on another thread wished Lolo would take up golf and arouse some interest in the most boring game in the world. :)
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Re: Graham: US should consider Olympic boycott over possible

Postby batonless relay » Wed Jul 17, 2013 12:51 pm

Tuariki wrote:...Thank goodness that the idiots of SC who put this man in the Senate don't get to run the US Government...

You don't get that Graham is considered a MODERATE in South Carolina. Hell, in some parts he's considered a leftist.
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Re: Graham: US should consider Olympic boycott over possible

Postby Tuariki » Wed Jul 17, 2013 1:13 pm

batonless relay wrote:
Tuariki wrote:...Thank goodness that the idiots of SC who put this man in the Senate don't get to run the US Government...

You don't get that Graham is considered a MODERATE in South Carolina. Hell, in some parts he's considered a leftist.

Probably why I have never been to South Carolina, and have never had the inclination to do so either.
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Re: Graham: US should consider Olympic boycott over possible

Postby Tuariki » Wed Jul 17, 2013 1:14 pm

lonewolf wrote:
Tuariki wrote:[ Personally, I am hoping Lolo will take up beach volleyball.

Someone on another thread wished Lolo would take up golf and arouse some interest in the most boring game in the world. :)

Taking up golf would just make Lolo boring - unless she played in her beach volley ball uniform.
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Re: Graham: US should consider Olympic boycott over possible

Postby lionelp1 » Wed Jul 17, 2013 1:38 pm

How calming to know that not every American is a right wing raving lunatic and hypocrite.

Is my memory at fault, but did not the American government and diplomats play a significant role in persuading the Chinese to let at least one dissident, who was not in good health I recall, have asylum in the States, under human rights international agreement.
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Re: Graham: US should consider Olympic boycott over possible

Postby GDAWG » Wed Jul 17, 2013 2:03 pm

I guess that people are tired of Senator Graham complaining about Benghazi, Libya all of the time, so he has to have something new to complain about.

BTW, the USOC said that they would not boycott.
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Re: Graham: US should consider Olympic boycott over possible

Postby tm71 » Wed Jul 17, 2013 2:52 pm

dj wrote:Lindsey Graham was only 24 and plowing through law school when we announced our boycott of the 1980 Games. Perhaps he can be excused for not knowing that history of futile actions. :(


i was only 9 in moscow and 13 in LA and i still recall the effect of those boycotts. it did not have any desired political effect and punished innocent hard working young men and women.
these boycotts have never worked at any time in history. just because putin is a dictator we should NOT punish our young athletes and crush their aspirations. politians should butt out and stay out of sports !
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Re: Graham: US should consider Olympic boycott over possible

Postby gh » Wed Jul 17, 2013 3:08 pm

lionelp1 wrote:How calming to know that not every American is a right wing raving lunatic and hypocrite....


No, the last guy who fomented an Olympic boycott came from the other side of the aisle.

And that's the end of the politicizing of this thread, plz.
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Re: Graham: US should consider Olympic boycott over possible

Postby beebee » Wed Jul 17, 2013 3:55 pm

Nothing in that deleted post was inappropriate or factually incorrect.

That was pure unnecessary censorship.
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Re: Graham: US should consider Olympic boycott over possible

Postby jhc68 » Wed Jul 17, 2013 4:11 pm

A boycott would accomplish... uh, could someone remind me what a boycott would accomplish?

It must have something to do with national security if Snowden is the reason... so maybe a boycott would upset Snowden so much he wouldn't spill anymore secrets to the Russkis or the media?
Yeah, that must be the reason. Or something along those lines.
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Re: Graham: US should consider Olympic boycott over possible

Postby 18.99s » Wed Jul 17, 2013 4:21 pm

jhc68 wrote:A boycott would accomplish... uh, could someone remind me what a boycott would accomplish?


Graham getting voted out.
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Re: Graham: US should consider Olympic boycott over possible

Postby bambam » Wed Jul 17, 2013 5:35 pm

GDAWG wrote:BTW, the USOC said that they would not boycott.


They didn't say that - they said they disagreed with the concept of a boycott. They also said that in 1980. It was not their decision and would not be now if the government said they couldn't go.
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Re: Graham: US should consider Olympic boycott over possible

Postby gh » Wed Jul 17, 2013 7:50 pm

beebee wrote:Nothing in that deleted post was inappropriate or factually incorrect.

That was pure unnecessary censorship.


factually incorrect inappropriate

we don't do politics here, plain and simple.
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Re: Graham: US should consider Olympic boycott over possible

Postby tandfman » Wed Jul 17, 2013 8:59 pm

bambam wrote:
GDAWG wrote:BTW, the USOC said that they would not boycott.

They didn't say that - they said they disagreed with the concept of a boycott. They also said that in 1980. It was not their decision and would not be now if the government said they couldn't go.

But it WAS their decision to boycott in 1980. The British Government decided to boycott and fortunately for the British athletes and fans, their Olympic Association refused to go along with that decision. Since National Olympic Committees, not governments, send teams, the Brits did the right thing in spite of their government.

The USOC, on the other hand, voted to go along with the US Government's demand that we boycott. It was a vote that all of our individual sports' governing bodies participated in, including representatives of winter sports that had already participated in the Winter Games earlier that year. They could have voted the other way, as their British counterparts did, but they didn't.

I hope, based on their statement today, that if the US Government did decide to boycott Sochi (which I very much doubt will happen), the USOC will do the right thing, which they cravenly refused to do in 1980.
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