European Junior Championship in Italy


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Re: European Junior Championship in Italy

Postby norunner » Thu Jul 18, 2013 1:16 pm

Tuariki wrote:Hinriksdottir cruised to a 2:01 - let's hope she can get under 2:00 in the final.
Always someone who spoils the joys of upcoming S&M discussions with actual sports. 8-)
I don't think she'll go below 2 minutes because there is nobody in that final to push her. I was actually laughing earlier because i read an interview with one of the three germans in the 800m final and she said the motto for the final is "3 against Anita" and i was thinking more like "3 seconds behind Anita".
On a different subject, what's up with the russian team? Especially the women's side seems to be pretty weak with many events not even entered. Nobody over 100, 200, only one over 800, 1500, nobody in the long jump, shotput, hammer, hep. Some of those are usually strong russian events so it's weird that they don't have anyone there.
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Re: European Junior Championship in Italy

Postby andyjgt » Thu Jul 18, 2013 1:46 pm

I don't think she's totally without competition - Sidorska does have a 2:01.00 from the Pechonkina meet in Yerino, only .51 behind the Icelander's PB, though she did have the benefit of running behind a quality field including Savinova, Kupina, Arzamasava et al, while the Icelander front-ran her time solo.
(Not saying Hinriksdottir isn't favourite, of course she is!)
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Re: European Junior Championship in Italy

Postby Powell » Fri Jul 19, 2013 2:54 am

Nafissatou Thiam just set a big PB with 6.37 in LJ and looks to be on course for 6200+ in the heptathlon. Possibly close to 6300 if she tries a bit harder in the 800 (she only ran 2:31 in her one heptathlon this year, and I think she can go a few seconds faster).
Sofia Linde may well end up in the 6100+ territory as well.

If the top 4 match the results from their SB heptathlons in the last 2 events, the end result will be:
Thiam 6207
Linde 6107
Visser 5885
Lindemans 5807
But, seeing as they've all been performing way, way above that level so far, 3rd and 4th place could be close to 6000. This could be the best junior heptathlon in terms of overall quality in a long time.
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Re: European Junior Championship in Italy

Postby DCSIGMA » Fri Jul 19, 2013 6:44 am

is there a live stream to the meet?
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Re: European Junior Championship in Italy

Postby norunner » Fri Jul 19, 2013 7:01 am

DCSIGMA wrote:is there a live stream to the meet?
Yes: http://eurovision.digotel.com/ea/index.html
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Re: European Junior Championship in Italy

Postby norunner » Fri Jul 19, 2013 7:04 am

Powell wrote:But, seeing as they've all been performing way, way above that level so far, 3rd and 4th place could be close to 6000. This could be the best junior heptathlon in terms of overall quality in a long time.
In Tallinn 2011 we had four over 6000, well three, Udelhoven was fourth with exactly 6000 points.
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Re: European Junior Championship in Italy

Postby Powell » Fri Jul 19, 2013 7:19 am

Visser and Lindemans did poorly in JT, do their predicted scores go down to 5770 and 5753. The top 2 are still on course for 62xx and 61xx
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Re: European Junior Championship in Italy

Postby nianchengyu » Fri Jul 19, 2013 8:05 am

[b]Thiams scored 6298p NR which is higher than Thompson U23 result[/b ],she is a much better thrower than Thompson and even Schippers who looks stronger than her.
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Re: European Junior Championship in Italy

Postby tgs3 » Fri Jul 19, 2013 9:58 am

Thiam becomes the #6 junior of all time. Linde, who came in 2nd with 6081, also made the top 25 junior list and will still be a junior next year. Eugene next year with Cuba's Yorgelis Rodriguez, the USA's Kendall Williams along with Euro 4th place finisher Visser could be very interesting.
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Re: European Junior Championship in Italy

Postby Rothosen » Fri Jul 19, 2013 2:26 pm

Nice to see Amy Eloise-Neale, future Husky, set a pb and qualified for the finals in the 3000 Steeplechase representing Great Britain. Ain't duel country status grand.
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Re: European Junior Championship in Italy

Postby norunner » Fri Jul 19, 2013 2:39 pm

tgs3 wrote:Thiam becomes the #6 junior of all time. Linde, who came in 2nd with 6081, also made the top 25 junior list and will still be a junior next year. Eugene next year with Cuba's Yorgelis Rodriguez, the USA's Kendall Williams along with Euro 4th place finisher Visser could be very interesting.
How does Kendall Williams fit into that category? Being 600 points below the competition doesn't exactly spell excitement.
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Re: European Junior Championship in Italy

Postby tgs3 » Fri Jul 19, 2013 2:58 pm

norunner wrote:How does Kendall Williams fit into that category? Being 600 points below the competition doesn't exactly spell excitement.

I included her because she had the 4th highest point total this year of people that that will still be juniors next year, but you're right, she's fairly far behind Rodriguez and Linde at the moment. I realize that it's probably mostly a US centric veiwpoint that causes me to think she's better than she showed this year. She was almost 100 points better last year, so there's some reason to think this is the case.
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Re: European Junior Championship in Italy

Postby Gabriella » Sun Jul 21, 2013 6:28 am

@norunner, what do you make of Burghardt and Freese's performances? After the first round I thought Burghardt would definitely make the final but I was very disappointed in her SF. She did exactly the same as she did in the German Senior 100m final; run really well for 70-80m then went backwards. She really needs to work on her speed endurance - I would like to see her run 200's - and also her stride length. At the moment, because she is also hurdling, her stride length is modified to that event and are too short, and she doesnt take advantage of her height and leg length (she's nearly 6ft tall). Her relay heat run was also very poor; she looks to have lost some form since Ulm. But I do think she has a great future and I would like to see her move back to multievents (she did a couple of good quadrathlons as a 14 and 15 yr old)

Freese must have been gutted she just missed out on a medal in the 200! I really thought she would get silver, especially as she beat Henry not long ago. She did run a really good relay leg and managed to get Germany back into a comfortable qualifying spot. Maybe she should have doubled up and done the 100/200?
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Re: European Junior Championship in Italy

Postby Marlow » Sun Jul 21, 2013 6:46 am

Rothosen wrote:I actually wonder what % of athletes are making any of these decisions. How many of these decisions are being made by their coaches? And no, I don't believe the coaches are reading these posts either.

Interesting question. What % of top athletes AND their coaches read this forum? If you are elite or emerging-elite, wouldn't a lot of your focus be on what's going on in the sport? With the demise of the IAAF forum (and the distance focus of letsrun), wouldn't this be a primary source of info? I know most are way too smart to post here (given the anonymous 'rude' comments of some posters here), but I've gotta think many (most?) lurk?
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Re: European Junior Championship in Italy

Postby Gabriella » Sun Jul 21, 2013 6:48 am

Just as I write that last post, the Germans DNF and mess their exchange up between Burghardt and Drazek!
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