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Re: iaaf worlds on tv

Postby Al in NYC » Sun Aug 04, 2013 10:19 am

gh wrote:
Marlow wrote:
Al in NYC wrote:They are going to force me, and everyone else here, to do the unmentionable over the internet.

It's hard for me to feel like a scofflaw when I can't access it any other way. I woulda paid the Universal fee like last year.


Let me see if I've got this right.

Macy's doesn't carry your favorite shirt, so you go over to Nieman-Marcus and shoplift one?


What an absolutely insulting analogy. I would think you, of all people, would be on the side of what few rabid fans our sport actually has left.

We're more than willing to pay for the product. But between the IAAF, USATF, and NBC - the organizations that actually should have a vested interest in getting as many eyes as possible in front of the event - they can't manage to put the event on an outlet that most of us can watch, at any damn price. Short of spending thousands of dollars to fly to Moscow, what the hell choice do we have?
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Re: iaaf worlds on tv

Postby donley2 » Sun Aug 04, 2013 10:47 am

Marlow wrote:
gh wrote:Let me see if I've got this right. Macy's doesn't carry your favorite shirt, so you go over to Nieman-Marcus and shoplift one?

Specious analogy.
I can't buy a song, so I listen to it on Youtube.


You lost me. You can buy it from another store (directv or dish network) in many cases. Now I understand not everyone can install a satellite dish. But you are a fan of a niche sport. That would be something that someone that is REALLY passionate about there sport might actually consider doing.
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Re: iaaf worlds on tv

Postby Marlow » Sun Aug 04, 2013 11:01 am

donley2 wrote:You lost me. You can buy it from another store (directv or dish network) in many cases. Now I understand not everyone can install a satellite dish. But you are a fan of a niche sport. That would be something that someone that is REALLY passionate about there sport might actually consider doing.

??!!
I pay $200/mo for phone/hi-speed internet/CATV from Comcast, who ostensibly says they carry the product I want. I am not going to switch to Dish just to watch track, albeit a consuming passion to me. It's really hard for me to be sympathetic to Comcast's loss in profit, if they don't even let me buy their wares.
As for gh's high moral stance, if I thought he's NEVER watched a copyrighted Youtube video, I'd admit he's a better person that I.
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Re: iaaf worlds on tv

Postby ldnbloke » Sun Aug 04, 2013 11:11 am

It's really sad reading the above posts. Thankfully, in the UK we have Eurosport coverage which will only miss the first day's afternoon session, but we'll have the BBC to fall back on for that.
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Re: iaaf worlds on tv

Postby Bob Duncan » Sun Aug 04, 2013 11:40 am

Marlow wrote:I pay $200/mo for phone/hi-speed internet/CATV from Comcast, who ostensibly says they carry the product I want. I am not going to switch to Dish just to watch track, albeit a consuming passion to me. It's really hard for me to be sympathetic to Comcast's loss in profit, if they don't even let me buy their wares.

This is exactly my stance and situation as I am paying similar $$ to Mediacom. It is not easy just to "switch" and there are all kinds of risks and nuisances associated with changing.

I'm glad to see so many others have my level of frustration with all of this. The European feeds are a good option, however, assuming one is careful not to install specialized "players" with the aforementioned malware/adware.

I had good luck with the Watch Athletics feeds during the London meet, although the first night I had to endure the Turkish-language coverage. I was also watching via a public Wi-Fi which didn't block out the web stream, like some of them will do.
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Re: iaaf worlds on tv

Postby Al in NYC » Mon Aug 05, 2013 11:26 pm

wineturtle wrote:Uni chan is now listed as 734 HD on my info grid


Alas, that is Universal HD, an entertainment network from the Universal Studios people. They show old movies and TV show reruns. And also, a few sports, like the BMX you saw, as well as professional wrestling and off-road racing.

Here is a legal notice I found on the NYC Time Warner site. It looks like they are indeed going to eventually carry Universal Sports, just not soon enough for any of us who want to watch the Worlds'

Time Warner wrote:"On or about August 28, 2013 we will launch the following services: ... Universal Sports on ch. 448, Universal Sports HD on ch. 461 ... in Manhattan, Brookln and Queens, Universal Sports and Universal Sports HD will be part of our Sports Pass service offering."


http://www.timewarnercable.com/en/about ... ernon.html

In my search I also saw some similar legal notices for other Time Warner areas, which showed some different dates for the addition of Universal Sports, but all after the WC. For instance, I think Southern California is scheduled to get it on Aug. 21.
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Re: iaaf worlds on tv

Postby Serafina8 » Mon Aug 05, 2013 11:49 pm

wineturtle wrote:Uni chan is now listed as 734 HD on my info grid and yesterday checked for tm71 and they were showing BMX bike jumping- at the end of that broadcast -I was not paying close attention -they said a T&F replay of some sort (US Nats maybe) was next -- so figured a done deal. Then they switched to a movie not T&F replay I just figured if I was a subscriber I would have gotten the announced T&F replay show and as a non subscriber the content on my info grid matched the non Sports Package subscriber offerings.I figure todays rep was happy to spend time with me to do a careful check because he'd get a break from listening to the complaints driven by TimeWarner NY dropping the local CBS channel in a $$$driven contract dispute.

...but I'm now pretty sure the final answer is no Universal sports on NYC Time Warner -- the July 8th announcement was premature and UniversalHD is not actually the premium portion of Universal Sports Channel .
Does anyone have a link to or even a copy of that announcement from early July I'd like to be able to reference it when I call my contact--I really do not want to wear out my welcome with her. Using up anymore of my hard earned chips with her on something I do not care about is foolish.


I went through the same process in trying to see whether Time Warner had started carrying Universal Sports where I could see it while in California and mistakenly got excited seeing "Universal HD." As "Al in NYC" just posted as I was writing this, it's just Universal Television, general entertainment out of the conglomerate, and is NOT Universal Sports. So you probably don't need to call in, as that channel (734) has nothing to do with the Universal Sports which is supposed to be available to Sports Pass subscribers.

If it helps, the article at this link outlines the deal:
http://www.multichannel.com/distribution/universal-sports-inks-time-warner-cable-carriage-tv-everywhere-pact/144319

I was going to suggest keeping us posted if it does appear in your lineup , but per Al's post, it looks like it won't be until August 28th :(
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Re: iaaf worlds on tv

Postby AS » Mon Aug 05, 2013 11:52 pm

For the first time I can recall there is no live coverage in Australia, only a 1-1.5hour highlights package each day on an obscure (but thankfully free) channel. Obviously have a reigning world and Olympic champion and some genuine medal chances wasn't enough to sway any network into thinking folks would tune in or advertisers would front any cash.

It's a real shame as the timezones aren't quite as awful for Australia as a Western Europe or Nth American meet (6 hours behind most of us so morning sessions are late afternoon, evening sessions midnight-3am).
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Re: iaaf worlds on tv

Postby Pego » Tue Aug 06, 2013 3:13 am

donley2 wrote:But you are a fan of a niche sport. That would be something that someone that is REALLY passionate about there sport might actually consider doing.


Just to get Universal Sport channel would be a pretty lame reason to switch to a dish, don't you think?
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Re: iaaf worlds on tv

Postby donley2 » Tue Aug 06, 2013 4:13 am

Pego wrote:
donley2 wrote:But you are a fan of a niche sport. That would be something that someone that is REALLY passionate about there sport might actually consider doing.


Just to get Universal Sport channel would be a pretty lame reason to switch to a dish, don't you think?


But if I am a channel provider and out of 300 million people in the country exactly ZERO would be willing to change providers to get my channel, I have to wonder why I am producing the channel.
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Re: iaaf worlds on tv

Postby Pego » Tue Aug 06, 2013 4:45 am

donley2 wrote:
Pego wrote:
donley2 wrote:But you are a fan of a niche sport. That would be something that someone that is REALLY passionate about there sport might actually consider doing.


Just to get Universal Sport channel would be a pretty lame reason to switch to a dish, don't you think?


But if I am a channel provider and out of 300 million people in the country exactly ZERO would be willing to change providers to get my channel, I have to wonder why I am producing the channel.


How many single channels would prompt you to change providers? I may consider it for 5 or less.
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Re: iaaf worlds on tv

Postby donley2 » Tue Aug 06, 2013 5:20 am

Directv likely has hundreds of thousands of customers they would not otherwise have, simply because they have Directv Sunday Ticket, which gives access to out of market NFL games. Those folks may not only possibly switched providers, but pay several hundred bucks extra. As for me switching based on missing channels, the list would indeed be short, but it might actually include Universal Sports. I very very much prefer having my track and field waiting on my DVR to watch on my 50 inch screen whenever i get around to it, as oppposed to putting up with unreliable computer streams at all hours of the day and night.
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Re: iaaf worlds on tv

Postby TN1965 » Tue Aug 06, 2013 6:58 am

Pego wrote:
donley2 wrote:But you are a fan of a niche sport. That would be something that someone that is REALLY passionate about there sport might actually consider doing.


Just to get Universal Sport channel would be a pretty lame reason to switch to a dish, don't you think?


I switched to DirecTV for the sole purpose of getting Universal Sports. And I pay extra for their Sports Pac for the same reason ( I do enjoy other sports on the channel , but I would not pay extra if not for T&F). Yes, the signal is less reliable (I have lost it a few times). But that's infinitely better than not having any coverage at all.

I still get my Internet and phone from Charter. And guess what? They agreed to offer me a two-service bundle at a lower rate.
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Re: iaaf worlds on tv

Postby Marlow » Tue Aug 06, 2013 7:03 am

TN1965 wrote:I switched to DirecTV for the sole purpose of getting Universal Sports[/u]. And I pay extra for their Sports Pac for the same reason

Were I all alone in my existence, I bet I would have done that too, but the primary users of the CATV are my wife and 5 grandkids; their desires (aka channels/services) come first and DirecTV here has far less than Comcast.
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Re: iaaf worlds on tv

Postby TN1965 » Tue Aug 06, 2013 7:32 am

gh wrote:Macy's doesn't carry your favorite shirt, so you go over to Nieman-Marcus and shoplift one?


Macy's doesn't carry your favorite shirt. Nieman-Marcus does, but only in a package with pants, a jacket and shoes that you don't like. You like Macy's pants, jacket and shoes better, but they only sell them in a package with an ugly shirt you absolutely hate.

Your choices.

1. I buy a package from Nieman-Marcus, because I want that shirt so badly.

2. I buy a package from Macy's because I like the rest of package better.

3. I buy both packages and donate the stuffs I don't like.

If you have enough money, #3 is the best option. But most people don't have enough money.
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Re: iaaf worlds on tv

Postby donley2 » Tue Aug 06, 2013 8:25 am

TN1965 wrote:
Pego wrote:
donley2 wrote:But you are a fan of a niche sport. That would be something that someone that is REALLY passionate about there sport might actually consider doing.


Just to get Universal Sport channel would be a pretty lame reason to switch to a dish, don't you think?


I switched to DirecTV for the sole purpose of getting Universal Sports. And I pay extra for their Sports Pac for the same reason ( I do enjoy other sports on the channel , but I would not pay extra if not for T&F).


Awesome the number of people willing to switch is not ZERO as I had feared.
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Re: iaaf worlds on tv

Postby Al in NYC » Tue Aug 06, 2013 8:42 am

The question is moot for me. My building is wired for Time Warner, and the board certainly wouldn't permit us to start hanging dishes off of the outside walls. In any event, my place is almost entirely north-facing, so it really wouldn't work anyway.

However, Time Warner does sell me "high-speed" (haha) internet, at a premium price...
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Re: iaaf worlds on tv

Postby br » Tue Aug 06, 2013 2:37 pm

Regarding Time Warner Cable in So Cal...

http://www.timewarnercable.com/en/about ... geles.html

On or after August 21, 2013, Universal Sports Network and Universal Sports Network HD will be made available to customers with subscription to TWC Sports Pass. Universal Sports Network and Universal Sports Network HD will require two-way capable digital cable ready equipment, such as a Time Warner Cable-provided set-top box or a CableCARD-equipped Unidirectional Digital Cable Product (UDCP) used in conjunction with a Tuning Adapter. Other UDCPs may not be able to access these services without additional equipment, such as a set-top box.
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Re: iaaf worlds on tv

Postby tm71 » Tue Aug 06, 2013 4:42 pm

br wrote:Regarding Time Warner Cable in So Cal...

http://www.timewarnercable.com/en/about ... geles.html

On or after August 21, 2013, Universal Sports Network and Universal Sports Network HD will be made available to customers with subscription to TWC Sports Pass. Universal Sports Network and Universal Sports Network HD will require two-way capable digital cable ready equipment, such as a Time Warner Cable-provided set-top box or a CableCARD-equipped Unidirectional Digital Cable Product (UDCP) used in conjunction with a Tuning Adapter. Other UDCPs may not be able to access these services without additional equipment, such as a set-top box.


Br thanks for the update. I am a time Warner subscriber in so cal like u. I have been calling them on and off for the last month with little success in getting any information. This simply comes 10 days too late for us ! i don't understand why they couldn't have done it on August 11th. This means either I have to switch to a satellite which makes no sense for a few days or be forced to watch on watch athletics or Eurosport live streaming with all it nuisances. As far as not watching live streaming that is total bunk. This is the type of attitude my HOA gives us here and sent us letter if we leave our garage doors open. I am not rebroadcasting or selling the event to any one so as far as I am concerned I am not doing anything wrong !
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Re: iaaf worlds on tv

Postby tm71 » Tue Aug 06, 2013 4:46 pm

athleticshushmail wrote:
gh wrote:
Marlow wrote:
Al in NYC wrote:They are going to force me, and everyone else here, to do the unmentionable over the internet.

It's hard for me to feel like a scofflaw when I can't access it any other way. I woulda paid the Universal fee like last year.


Let me see if I've got this right.

Macy's doesn't carry your favorite shirt, so you go over to Nieman-Marcus and shoplift one?

You can go to world class meets all the time. We are willing to pay any amount of money to watch the world championships, but can't, short of flying to Moscow. That's obviously not possible for anybody. I think the better analogy would be if Macy's didn't carry a shirt and there was a law that you couldn't buy a shirt from anywhere else in the United States.


I agree ! Maybe gh can take us with him to Moscow and we can be his interns. It would cheaper than the triple cast cost NBC in 92 !
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Re: iaaf worlds on tv

Postby Mighty Favog » Tue Aug 06, 2013 6:28 pm

Athletics Canada said there would soon be an announcement regarding the Worlds TV broadcast, so it's possible that this scofflaw will be watching an illegal foreign broadcast via my cable provider. Via CBC I have violated NBC's exclusive rights as US Olympic broadcaster in 6 of the last 7 Olympiads. I await my arrest.
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Re: iaaf worlds on tv

Postby Marlow » Tue Aug 06, 2013 6:55 pm

Mighty Favog wrote:I await my arrest.

It'd better be a big honkin' jail, cuz we'll all be there with you!
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Re: iaaf worlds on tv

Postby rsb2 » Tue Aug 06, 2013 7:49 pm

The CBC thing is strange, no word for weeks/months/etc., and today AC says there may be coverage ? I hope there is, but I won't be holding my breath. The usual livestreams connecting to BBC and/or EuroSport will still work fine here in Canada.
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Re: iaaf worlds on tv

Postby James Fields » Tue Aug 06, 2013 10:23 pm

az2004 wrote:
"good to hear about daily shows,, hope this is nbcsn, as they had some of the des moines stuff"
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Agreed, nbcsn has pleasantly surprised with track coverage.

I detect a potential problem with setting up video recorder for my favorite events, using the IAAF date and hour schedules. They show Moscow time and USA times with differential of 8 hours for USA Eastern time zone and 11 hours for USA Pacific time zone. But that could be off one hour if it's true as reported elsewhere that Moscow is NOT using "daylight savings time" (or "summer time" as it called in some nations) in 2013.
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Re: iaaf worlds on tv

Postby shivfan » Wed Aug 07, 2013 12:31 am

Weights&Shoes wrote:I hope there will be streams online of the BBC feed. The BEST when it comes to coverage, I'd pay a premium to have that channel on my TV.

Yes, as eldanielfire says, those of us who live in the UK are lucky with the TV coverage....

In addition to the BBC, there's also the Eurosport channel in the UK, which will be in English too. I tend to switch from one to the other. I like the BBC, but sometimes they do tend to focus a bit more on British athletes than Eurosport, which tends to offer a wider perspective.
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Re: iaaf worlds on tv

Postby DecFan » Wed Aug 07, 2013 5:43 am

James Fields wrote:
I detect a potential problem with setting up video recorder for my favorite events, using the IAAF date and hour schedules. They show Moscow time and USA times with differential of 8 hours for USA Eastern time zone and 11 hours for USA Pacific time zone. But that could be off one hour if it's true as reported elsewhere that Moscow is NOT using "daylight savings time" (or "summer time" as it called in some nations) in 2013.


The time difference is indeed 8 hours to US EDT and 11 hours to PDT.
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Re: iaaf worlds on tv

Postby Al in NYC » Wed Aug 07, 2013 9:30 am

James Fields wrote:az2004 wrote:
"good to hear about daily shows,, hope this is nbcsn, as they had some of the des moines stuff"
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Agreed, nbcsn has pleasantly surprised with track coverage.


But keep in mind that the WC won't be on NBCSN. Instead, they will be showing deer hunting, fishing, year-old soccer games, and infomercials.
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Re: iaaf worlds on tv

Postby rsb2 » Wed Aug 07, 2013 12:09 pm

The Canadian television coverage has been confirmed as daily highlight shows on SportsNet, so that doesn't seem to include live action.
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Re: iaaf worlds on radio

Postby Chafford1 » Fri Aug 09, 2013 4:06 am

If you can't receive BBC on line TV streaming in your country, you could try BBC Radio Five Live which will have comprehensive coverage. Commentators will include Donovan Bailey

http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/mediap ... erage.html

Radio 5 Live can be accessed on the web at:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/5live
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Re: iaaf worlds on tv

Postby dbirds » Fri Aug 09, 2013 4:10 am

Does anyone if/how quickly Universalsports.com's daily feeds will be archived? I'd rather wake up at 7 on Sat am and watch the archived feeds to see the decathlon rather than waking up at 12:30 am cst to watch it Streaming live.
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Re: iaaf worlds on tv

Postby Trackrunner » Fri Aug 09, 2013 6:38 am

Is track's profile that low that NBC SN which is more widely available than Universal Sports couldn't carry it. I'm sure the WC would get a bigger audience than reruns of deer hunting and trout fishing. Also I find Universal Sport schedule bizarre. Why aren't they reairing the afternoon sessions in prime time during the week. I would think most people will be at work from 11:30 - 2 pm and will therefore miss it and would like to see it in the evenings when they get home.
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Re: iaaf worlds on tv

Postby az2004 » Fri Aug 09, 2013 7:14 am

I will follow thw internet boards here event by event, I trust gh and those in Moscow itself
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Re: iaaf worlds on tv

Postby fasttrak85 » Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:35 am

I am convinced no one at the IAAF has any sense nor anyone of the higher ups at Universal. How is it possible that a whole sport is inaccessible to the majority of people in an entire country(namely the US)? I am not into any fancy explanations i KNOW the whole lot of them are huge idiots. Like others have noticed..... Is flyfishing, bird catching, water rafting, moose hunting, roach crawling more suitable for a sports channel than athletics? Im just sick of this everyone is dropping the batton. Universal is no better because they took forever in there stupid negotation deal. What did they gain by not offering universal to the majority of cable providers? In the summer i would gladly spend upwards of 20 a month to have that channel(thats how much i desire it) and it is not even available for purchase. Even worse you cant access their web feeds without the channel. So in essence track fans in USA are just locked out of the whole loop altogether. The track season is so short and fleeting and I dont feel like It is possible to get the most out of it. I have complained to Universal and to Fios but at the end of the day they have to be the ones to wise up. UGGGH so frustrating.
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Re: iaaf worlds on tv

Postby Weights&Shoes » Fri Aug 09, 2013 11:14 am

What's the time difference from EST-Moscow?
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Re: iaaf worlds on tv

Postby DecFan » Fri Aug 09, 2013 12:29 pm

Weights&Shoes wrote:What's the time difference from EST-Moscow?


Eight hours at present (and thus Moscow to Eastern Daylight Time).
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Re: iaaf worlds on tv

Postby nicest person ever » Fri Aug 09, 2013 12:32 pm

Alright, so, just to avoid confusion/to make sure I'm not missing any options here, this is my current situation:

1. I live in the United States

2. My TV provider is Verizon Fios

So, from what I understand, other the NBC weekend recap thingies, I do not have any possible ways of watching the full coverage/weekday stuff on tv, right?

Thus, I guess my next question has to do with the internet:

Will I be able to watch the FULL (complete, NOT RECAP) replay coverage of the WC's on any OFFICIAL websites (I'm not talking about those random obscurer pirated feed sites), but rather, I'm talking about like the BBC's website, or Eurosport's website, or Universal Sport's website, or NBC's website, or whatever actual tv channel/official coverage site in existence is going to make replays of their weekday track coverage, which I can then watch like 1 day later by just avoiding looking at the track & field results on tv/the internet, so that even tho it's not "live" for me, in essence it will be like watching it live, even though I'm just watching the replay of the full coverage, since I have no idea what will happen while watching it.

Can anyone advise me on this, particularly regarding the question I asked in the paragraph directly above this sentence? I would appreciate it enormously!
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Re: iaaf worlds on tv

Postby Weights&Shoes » Fri Aug 09, 2013 12:38 pm

DecFan wrote:
Weights&Shoes wrote:What's the time difference from EST-Moscow?


Eight hours at present (and thus Moscow to Eastern Daylight Time).


Sleeping patterns, goodbye. Especially since I plan to stream everything live.
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Re: iaaf worlds on tv

Postby jazzcyclist » Fri Aug 09, 2013 12:59 pm

Since I have Direct TV, I'll get to see most of it live, either on Universal Sports or NBC, but I'm still disappointed that Universal Sports hasn't gone HD yet.
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Re: iaaf worlds on tv

Postby Weights&Shoes » Fri Aug 09, 2013 1:07 pm

Could someone post the BBC TV schedule? I remember seeing it somewhere but didn't bookmark it.
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Re: iaaf worlds on tv

Postby Pego » Fri Aug 09, 2013 1:32 pm

nicest person ever wrote:Alright, so, just to avoid confusion/to make sure I'm not missing any options here, this is my current situation:

1. I live in the United States

2. My TV provider is Verizon Fios

So, from what I understand, other the NBC weekend recap thingies, I do not have any possible ways of watching the full coverage/weekday stuff on tv, right?

Thus, I guess my next question has to do with the internet:

Will I be able to watch the FULL (complete, NOT RECAP) replay coverage of the WC's on any OFFICIAL websites (I'm not talking about those random obscurer pirated feed sites), but rather, I'm talking about like the BBC's website, or Eurosport's website, or Universal Sport's website, or NBC's website, or whatever actual tv channel/official coverage site in existence is going to make replays of their weekday track coverage, which I can then watch like 1 day later by just avoiding looking at the track & field results on tv/the internet, so that even tho it's not "live" for me, in essence it will be like watching it live, even though I'm just watching the replay of the full coverage, since I have no idea what will happen while watching it.

Can anyone advise me on this, particularly regarding the question I asked in the paragraph directly above this sentence? I would appreciate it enormously!


The way I understand it, for our kind (you and me and scores of other cable subscribers), the only option of live coverage are those pirate websites. Hopefully, some of them will have it.The biggest downside of those is that there is no archived version. What you missed live, you missed.
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