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Paris DL- M 1500m

Postby betterthanb4 » Sat Jul 06, 2013 6:46 am

http://www.diamondleague-paris.com/en/L ... 1500m-Men/

Order Athlete Nation PB SB

1-1 LALANG Lawi KEN 3:36.77 3:38.53
1-2 CASADO Arturo ESP 3:32.70 3:37.81
1-3 MANZANO Leonel USA 3:32.37 3:37.04
1-4 LOMONG Lopez USA 3:32.20 3:36.74
1-5 CENTROWITZ Matthew USA 3:31.96 3:36.51
1-6 CARVALHO Florian FRA 3:33.60 3:37.51
1-7 MOUSTAOUI Mohamed MAR 3:31.84 3:36.56
1-8 WOTE Aman ETH 3:33.42 3:33.42
1-9 DENISSEL Simon FRA 3:38.31 3:38.31
1-10 IGUIDER Abdelaati MAR 3:31.47 3:33.29
1-11 SEUREI Benson BRN 3:31.61 3:33.04
1-12 TAHRI Bouabdellah FRA 3:34.65 3:36.87
1-13 SOULEIMAN Ayanleh DJI 3:30.31 3:32.59
1-14 GEBREMEDHIN Mekonnen ETH 3:31.45 3:32.43
1-15 LAGAT Bernard USA 3:26.34
1-16 RONO Geoffrey Kipkoech KEN 3:32.55 3:40.04
1-17 BARUSEI Geofrey KEN 3:33.39 3:37.13
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Re: Paris DL- M 1500m

Postby Marlow » Sat Jul 06, 2013 11:40 am

The Race for the A!
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Re: Paris DL- M 1500m

Postby Marlow » Sat Jul 06, 2013 11:45 am

Manzano 3:33.14
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Re: Paris DL- M 1500m

Postby tm71 » Sat Jul 06, 2013 11:45 am

Manzano got it for sure
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Re: Paris DL- M 1500m

Postby jeremyp » Sat Jul 06, 2013 11:46 am

This guy is all heart. When he wants something bad he gets it!
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Re: Paris DL- M 1500m

Postby betterthanb4 » Sat Jul 06, 2013 11:47 am

Results
http://www.diamondleague-paris.com/en/L ... 1500m-Men/


1 SOULEIMAN Ayanleh DJI 3:32.55 SB
2 WOTE Aman ETH 3:32.65 PB
3 MANZANO Leonel USA 3:33.14 SB
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Re: Paris DL- M 1500m

Postby ATK » Sat Jul 06, 2013 11:47 am

Surprised that he has not had a contract for a couple months now.
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Re: Paris DL- M 1500m

Postby tm71 » Sat Jul 06, 2013 11:48 am

jeremyp wrote:This guy is all heart. When he wants something bad he gets it!


He will be more dangerous in the championship race which will not have rabbits
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Re: Paris DL- M 1500m

Postby pickle47 » Sat Jul 06, 2013 11:49 am

Centro DNF? What happened?
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Re: Paris DL- M 1500m

Postby Marlow » Sat Jul 06, 2013 11:50 am

10 LOMONG Lopez USA 3:34.55
13 LAGAT Bernard USA 3:36.36
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Re: Paris DL- M 1500m

Postby br » Sat Jul 06, 2013 11:51 am

5 LALANG Lawi KEN 3:33.20 PB
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Re: Paris DL- M 1500m

Postby tm71 » Sat Jul 06, 2013 11:52 am

tm71 wrote:Manzano got it for sure


Lomong under 335 too and Centro dnf so now Manzano and lomong with As and Centro with B so that is the team
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Re: Paris DL- M 1500m

Postby fourjz » Sat Jul 06, 2013 11:53 am

ATK wrote:Surprised that he has not had a contract for a couple months now.


Yeah,whats up with that.Who's his agent ? :?
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Re: Paris DL- M 1500m

Postby pickle47 » Sat Jul 06, 2013 12:02 pm

Bolt's agent, right?
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Re: Paris DL- M 1500m

Postby betterthanb4 » Sat Jul 06, 2013 12:18 pm

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Re: Paris DL- M 1500m

Postby Master Po » Sat Jul 06, 2013 12:26 pm

pickle47 wrote:Centro DNF? What happened?


No answers for what happened, but having just watched the video, it looked like he gradually drifted to the back in the 2nd half of the race, and stepped off just after 1200m.
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Re: Paris DL- M 1500m

Postby pickle47 » Sat Jul 06, 2013 12:28 pm

Thanks for posting those videos. Yes, saw the same thing. Didn't look like he was grimacing or even maxed out. Have to wait for a Flotrack interview or something.
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Re: Paris DL- M 1500m

Postby Master Po » Sat Jul 06, 2013 12:39 pm

I hope that Centrowitz is OK. In the meantime, glad to see Manzano & Lomong make the "A" team. I love it when a plan comes together. :wink:
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Re: Paris DL- M 1500m

Postby aaronk » Sat Jul 06, 2013 12:46 pm

Lagat ran slowly, but still broke the age 38 record!!
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Re: Paris DL- M 1500m

Postby Blues » Sat Jul 06, 2013 12:51 pm

br wrote:5 LALANG Lawi KEN 3:33.20 PB


Very impressive run by University of Arizona's Lalang... He improved on his previous PB by 3.57 seconds. Hopefully for those of us who appreciate Wildcats track and field, he'll be back to compete during his senior season at the school as planned...
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Re: Paris DL- M 1500m

Postby RQ » Sat Jul 06, 2013 12:57 pm

Manzano's splits
56.0, 1:54(58), 2:52.1(58.1), 40.8 last 300m, 55.1(28.0,27.1) last 400m

nothing earth shattering, just solid racing
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Re: Paris DL- M 1500m

Postby RQ » Sat Jul 06, 2013 1:03 pm

Soulieman
54.0,57.2(1:51.2),60.0(2:51.1), 41.3
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Re: Paris DL- M 1500m

Postby bruce3404 » Sat Jul 06, 2013 1:31 pm

Master Po wrote:I hope that Centrowitz is OK. In the meantime, glad to see Manzano & Lomong make the "A" team. I love it when a plan comes together. :wink:


I've never seen him quit a race.
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Re: Paris DL- M 1500m

Postby Dutra5 » Sat Jul 06, 2013 2:38 pm

Master Po wrote:
pickle47 wrote:Centro DNF? What happened?


No answers for what happened, but having just watched the video, it looked like he gradually drifted to the back in the 2nd half of the race, and stepped off just after 1200m.


He reaches for the back of his right leg after a couple of steps off the track at the 3:25 mark of the video.
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Re: Paris DL- M 1500m

Postby tandfman » Sat Jul 06, 2013 5:52 pm

fourjz wrote:
ATK wrote:Surprised that he has not had a contract for a couple months now.

Yeah,whats up with that.Who's his agent ? :?

I have no idea what's up with that, but I would guess that it's quite simple. He and his agent probably believe he is worth more than any of the shoe/apparel companies think he is. So there's an impasse.

It appears that most athletes, in this situation, accept the highest offer they can get, sometimes after some negotiation. But a few stick to their beliefs and principles and hold out. If Manzano really thinks he is worth X and no sponsor is willing to pay him X, and he's not willing to settle for what he's been offered, then he has no contract.
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Re: Paris DL- M 1500m

Postby ATK » Sat Jul 06, 2013 6:24 pm

tandfman wrote:
fourjz wrote:
ATK wrote:Surprised that he has not had a contract for a couple months now.

Yeah,whats up with that.Who's his agent ? :?

I have no idea what's up with that, but I would guess that it's quite simple. He and his agent probably believe he is worth more than any of the shoe/apparel companies think he is. So there's an impasse.

It appears that most athletes, in this situation, accept the highest offer they can get, sometimes after some negotiation. But a few stick to their beliefs and principles and hold out. If Manzano really thinks he is worth X and no sponsor is willing to pay him X, and he's not willing to settle for what he's been offered, then he has no contract.

That's what I thought as well considering how quickly college athletes have been grabbing contracts these past 2 months. But it's risky depending how long he holds out. If he doesn't get one before Worlds, and he happens to do poorly, I would assume he would have to drop his asking price significantly.
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Re: Paris DL- M 1500m

Postby Blues » Sat Jul 06, 2013 6:27 pm

tandfman wrote:
fourjz wrote:
ATK wrote:Surprised that he has not had a contract for a couple months now.

Yeah,whats up with that.Who's his agent ? :?

I have no idea what's up with that, but I would guess that it's quite simple. He and his agent probably believe he is worth more than any of the shoe/apparel companies think he is. So there's an impasse.

It appears that most athletes, in this situation, accept the highest offer they can get, sometimes after some negotiation. But a few stick to their beliefs and principles and hold out. If Manzano really thinks he is worth X and no sponsor is willing to pay him X, and he's not willing to settle for what he's been offered, then he has no contract.


That seems to be about right...

It's a cliché that Olympians will automatically cash in on their Olympic success. Some do. Many do not. After completing his eligibility at Texas in 2008, Manzano signed a four-year contract with Nike, which, in the usual manner of such deals, provided an annual salary along with training and racing gear and footwear. Such deals are the lifeblood of track athletes, few of whom earn significant prize money or appearance fees. "It was a very good contract," says Ricky Simms, Manzano's British agent, who also, much more famously, handles Bolt.

Last fall Simms entered negotiations with Nike for a new deal for Manzano. In November those negotiations fell through. Simms was surprised. "When he won the 1,500-meter silver medal, we expected that this would be very advantageous to him when signing a new deal," says Simms. "Unfortunately, the market is not strong at this moment and the best offer was not meeting his expectations. We approached every shoe company in track and field, and even some outside track and field. We continue to pursue it."

To review: A competitor in the mile run (or its metric equivalent) had won America's first Olympic medal in 44 years, and brought with him a compelling story of immigration and hard work, overcoming poverty and succeeding at the highest level of his sport, and yet could not secure a satisfactory shoe contract. (The word satisfactory is, of course, vitally important here).
"You would think the Olympic silver medalist in the 1,500 meters would have sponsorship," says Manzano. "Nike is a strong global company. They made a business decision. I'm sure a lot of things went into it. My age could be a factor." [Manzano is 28, not old and not young.]"



http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/more/n ... onsorship/
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Re: Paris DL- M 1500m

Postby gh » Sat Jul 06, 2013 6:32 pm

Blues wrote:
br wrote:5 LALANG Lawi KEN 3:33.20 PB


Very impressive run by University of Arizona's Lalang... He improved on his previous PB by 3.57 seconds. Hopefully for those of us who appreciate Wildcats track and field, he'll be back to compete during his senior season at the school as planned...


While it may be "easy" to ignore by-meet prize money, should Lalang win a WC medal (after actually making the tough Kenyan team first) and/or win a significant DL finalé prize, that'll be when push comes to shove.
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Re: Paris DL- M 1500m

Postby bobguild76 » Sat Jul 06, 2013 9:25 pm

Dutra5 wrote:
Master Po wrote:
pickle47 wrote:Centro DNF? What happened?


No answers for what happened, but having just watched the video, it looked like he gradually drifted to the back in the 2nd half of the race, and stepped off just after 1200m.


He reaches for the back of his right leg after a couple of steps off the track at the 3:25 mark of the video.

It didn't seem anything sudden. He had drifted back, looked around for a few strides - as if to see if anyone was right behind him - and then stepped off while holding the back of his right leg. Here's hoping it was precautionary and nothing serious. I saw the post race interviews w/ Manzano, Lalang, Lomong, and Lagat, but no Centrowitz.
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Re: Paris DL- M 1500m

Postby bruce3404 » Sun Jul 07, 2013 10:51 am

bobguild76 wrote:It didn't seem anything sudden. He had drifted back, looked around for a few strides - as if to see if anyone was right behind him - and then stepped off while holding the back of his right leg. Here's hoping it was precautionary and nothing serious. I saw the post race interviews w/ Manzano, Lalang, Lomong, and Lagat, but no Centrowitz.


Salazar says Centro is "completely OK", but embarrassed by his performance:
http://www.oregonlive.com/trackandfield/index.ssf/2013/07/oregon_track_field_rundown_alb_12.html#incart_flyout_sports
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Re: Paris DL- M 1500m

Postby Brian » Sun Jul 07, 2013 3:28 pm

aaronk wrote:Lagat ran slowly, but still broke the age 38 record!!



The record is pending the results of his Geritol test.
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