Paris DL- M 110H


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Re: Paris DL- M 110H

Postby booond » Sat Jul 06, 2013 3:07 pm

ATK wrote:
booond wrote:
ATK wrote:
booond wrote:Merritt didn't finish well but he has to be the favorite; Richardson needs to find another gear or he might not make the final.

Merritt is as much as the favorite as Andrew Riley, who is as much a favorite as Oliver, and Ortega, and Wilson, and Richardson, and Brathwaite...and everyone croflash previously mentioned.

There is no way you can single out a favorite this year.


There is a way, I just did and I'll do it again.

Rehabbing WR beats all the pretenders a month from the WC; Braithwaite, Riley and the French guys have never run 13.09. If Merritt regains his health, he's the easy favorite in a very weak year.

At this point in the season? there is no favorite. If Merritt beat everyone else the next race out, then well see.
But this race clearly shows why everyone is in it. there was a .06 difference between 1st and 6th! and .13 to 7th! One grazed hurdle and you go from 1st to 7th.


This race clearly shows why Merritt is the favorite if he stays healthy. The next tier of guys, except Parchment, can't get to 13.10 consistently, let alone 13.00. Merritt's biggest competition is his health.
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Re: Paris DL- M 110H

Postby toyracer » Sat Jul 06, 2013 3:44 pm

ATK wrote:
LadyT wrote:Are there 3 Jamaicans outside of Parchment with the standard?


Riley and Thomas have the standard.

Deuce Carter is .03 off the B.


Parchment can make the Jamaica team, provided that Carter does not make the A standard. There is provision in the JAAA rules for Parchment's scenario.

JAAA Selection Criteria

3. (a) Subject to the proviso below, athletes placing in the 1st to 3rd positions in all events will be selected if they have attained the qualifying ’A’ standard for the event PROVIDED HOWEVER that in any event where any athlete has been granted an exemption from competing in that event at the National Championships under criteria (7) below the athlete so exempted may be considered for selection as an entrant for the event in the competition.

7. Athletes who are ranked/listed in the top three in the world for their event who are ill or injured at the time of the National Championships and are granted an exemption from competing at the Championships may still be considered for selection provided that they are able to prove their world ranking form prior to the final submission of the entries for the competition.

The exemption was applied for by Parchment's handlers as soon as he was injured. If Carter does not attain the A standard and if Parchment can show form he can be selected.
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Re: Paris DL- M 110H

Postby tm71 » Sat Jul 06, 2013 3:54 pm

ATK wrote:
booond wrote:Merritt didn't finish well but he has to be the favorite; Richardson needs to find another gear or he might not make the final.

Merritt is as much as the favorite as Andrew Riley, who is as much a favorite as Oliver, and Ortega, and Wilson, and Richardson, and Brathwaite...and everyone croflash previously mentioned.

There is no way you can single out a favorite this year.


Say what ? None if these runners save Oliver and Richardson have gone sub 13 so if Merritt gets to that level then he will be champion again. Wilson 13.02 and parchment 13.05 and ortega 13.08 are under 13.1 and in the next tier. Braithqaite, Riley and the French guy are having career years and could figure on the right circumstances if the top tier guys falter. If merritt can dip under 13 again the rest of the field will be going for second and third.
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Re: Paris DL- M 110H

Postby ATK » Sat Jul 06, 2013 4:13 pm

tm71 wrote:
ATK wrote:
booond wrote:Merritt didn't finish well but he has to be the favorite; Richardson needs to find another gear or he might not make the final.

Merritt is as much as the favorite as Andrew Riley, who is as much a favorite as Oliver, and Ortega, and Wilson, and Richardson, and Brathwaite...and everyone croflash previously mentioned.

There is no way you can single out a favorite this year.


Say what ? None if these runners save Oliver and Richardson have gone sub 13 so if Merritt gets to that level then he will be champion again. Wilson 13.02 and parchment 13.05 and ortega 13.08 are under 13.1 and in the next tier. Braithqaite, Riley and the French guy are having career years and could figure on the right circumstances if the top tier guys falter. If merritt can dip under 13 again the rest of the field will be going for second and third.

If if if.....what u see NOW is a crapshoot for gold.
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Re: Paris DL- M 110H

Postby booond » Sat Jul 06, 2013 4:29 pm

Is it possible that you don't understand what being the favorite means? What it doesn't mean is that he's a lock to win. He isn't. Given the nature of the event, no hurdler is a lock to win. However, due to the level of ability shown by his opponents and the progress made by Merritt in recent weeks, it is easy to surmise that he will take steps forward that none of his competitors are physically able to match. That makes him the favorite. If a future betting line were set today, he'd go off at 3-1 or so. He wouldn't be an overwhelming favorite and there'd be some good prices for guys like, Riley or Wilson who most years would struggle to make the final but they wouldn't be in the same neighborhood as Merritt.
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Re: Paris DL- M 110H

Postby ATK » Sat Jul 06, 2013 4:46 pm

booond wrote:Is it possible that you don't understand what being the favorite means? What it doesn't mean is that he's a lock to win. He isn't. Given the nature of the event, no hurdler is a lock to win. However, due to the level of ability shown by his opponents and the progress made by Merritt in recent weeks, it is easy to surmise that he will take steps forward that none of his competitors are physically able to match. That makes him the favorite. If a future betting line were set today, he'd go off at 3-1 or so. He wouldn't be an overwhelming favorite and there'd be some good prices for guys like, Riley or Wilson who most years would struggle to make the final but they wouldn't be in the same neighborhood as Merritt.

I understand exactly what your saying, but based on what has occurred up to this point in the season, I disagree.
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Re: Paris DL- M 110H

Postby DentyCracker » Sat Jul 06, 2013 4:51 pm

I will be shocked if Parchment isn't in Moscow.SHOCKED!!
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Re: Paris DL- M 110H

Postby zidan » Sat Jul 06, 2013 5:09 pm

Me too, once he proves his fitness he shall be there
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Re: Paris DL- M 110H

Postby uakari » Sat Jul 06, 2013 8:09 pm

croflash wrote:Last two Olympic and World Champions all in this race.



sorry, no disrespect to JR, but he'd never been WCh. if not for robles playing dirty...
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Re: Paris DL- M 110H

Postby El Toro » Sat Jul 06, 2013 8:15 pm

nbonaddio wrote:Duel PB for the LaGarde frères!


There's more French quality on the way as well.( Story from July 2012)

In an extraordinary run in the French Youth championships yesterday, 31 days after celebrating his 17th birthday, Wilhem Belocian gate-crashed his way into the record books with a spectacular 110m hurdles clocking of 13.12.

That supplants the USA’s Wayne Davis’s world youth best of 13.18 from Ostrava five years ago and, more importantly for the French, elbows aside Ladji Decouré’s French record of 13.26 which has survived for 13 years.


Full Story

Davis later beat Xiang Liu's WJR and has a best of 13.08 and Doucoure's NR stands at 12.97, so will the French team be as competitive as the USA come Rio?
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Re: Paris DL- M 110H

Postby gh » Sun Jul 07, 2013 7:17 am

fastest times ever for places 6-7-8.
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Re: Paris DL- M 110H

Postby no one » Sun Jul 07, 2013 10:05 am

wow what a great race to watch. Did I see Oliver step out of his lane? Does it make any difference?
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Re: Paris DL- M 110H

Postby ATK » Sun Jul 07, 2013 10:35 am

no one wrote:wow what a great race to watch. Did I see Oliver step out of his lane? Does it make any difference?

Unless they impede another runner in someway, its irrelevant on the straight. And actually a disadvantage to the athlete since they are technically running more distance instead of a straight line...
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Re: Paris DL- M 110H

Postby toyracer » Sun Jul 07, 2013 6:45 pm

zidan wrote:Me too, once he proves his fitness he shall be there


Provided that the athlete (Keddo) that finished third at our National Championships does not attain the A standard...
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Re: Paris DL- M 110H

Postby shivfan » Sun Jul 28, 2013 6:37 am

DentyCracker wrote:I will be shocked if Parchment isn't in Moscow.SHOCKED!!

'Olympic 110-metre hurdles bronze medallist Hansle Parchment has been preparing well despite training on a less than fully healthy ankle as he gets ready for the 14th World Athletic Championships, August 10-18 in Moscow. The 23-year-old Parchment had the world-leading time of 13.05s when he twisted his ankle while warming up for the sprint hurdles finals at the National Championships on the evening of June 23. After being out for two weeks, he returned to training and has been steadily recovering from the injury. "There is still some discomfort in the ankle but he has been training well," said Parchment's coach, Fitzroy Coleman. "He hasn't been doing much hurdling but the plan is to get his fitness as close as possible to what it was before he was injured."'

http://jamaica-gleaner.com/gleaner/2013 ... orts3.html
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