batonless relay wrote:if you look at most 400h first 200m compared to the second 200m it becomes obvious that they're going out too fast.
It does not. There's usually 2-second positive split between the 200s, because that really is the best way to run it. If someone WERE to run <46.0, it'd probably be a 22/23.9.
Marlow, you're really striking out trying to disprove everything I say. You say above that if someone were to run <46, it'd probably be a 22/23.9...well, where have I seen that before? Oh, that's right, it was when I wrote....
batonless relay wrote:...A hurdler who touched down in 20.5 at #5 would be ~ 22.16 at 200m (Young, was ~20.6 at #5). Assuming he came home, over the final 200m equal to Mori at 1.66 he would run the second 200m in 23.82 for a grand total of ... 45.98 (22.16 + 23.82).
But you said 20.5 is impossible. And the only way you get to ~22.1 is to step down in 20.5, which would not support your newest claim that it would probably be 22/23.9. Anyway, how about this? Put your guns down. If you want to discuss, lets do that, but stop with the whatever I say you're going to do your endeavor best to prove me wrong. It's not working. That said...
Most hurdlers at USATF or NCAAs are going out in 23.5 (about 22-flat for #5) and only the best are running 49.0 which is what a 23.5 + 25.5 is (your 2s diff that is not standard, but hey, arguments sake). That's why I'm saying most are going out too fast. Even many of the guys who are running 50 and 51 or more are going out in 23.5/24...that, again would mean too fast.