¶USATF 2013 - w400: Natasha Hastings 49.94 (AL)


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Re: USATF 2013 - w400: McCorory leads SF with 50.53

Postby betterthanb4 » Sat Jun 22, 2013 2:09 pm

tm71 wrote:
betterthanb4 wrote:This should be a good race.

Hoping McCorory gets under 50.


My prediction
1) Hastings 49.8
2) McCrory 49.9
3) Spenser 50.3
6) SRR 50.8



Looks good. I think McCorory takes first and Hastings second.
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Re: USATF 2013 - w400: McCorory leads SF with 50.53

Postby ATK » Sat Jun 22, 2013 2:09 pm

Oh wow. SRR running in flats...
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Re: USATF 2013 - w400: McCorory leads SF with 50.53

Postby betterthanb4 » Sat Jun 22, 2013 2:11 pm

Hastings! wins in 49.94 McCorory second 50.01
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Re: USATF 2013 - w400: McCorory leads SF with 50.53

Postby betterthanb4 » Sat Jun 22, 2013 2:12 pm

tm71 wrote:
betterthanb4 wrote:This should be a good race.

Hoping McCorory gets under 50.


My prediction
1) Hastings 49.8
2) McCrory 49.9
3) Spenser 50.3
6) SRR 50.8



Wow You were spot on!!! :)
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Re: USATF 2013 - w400: McCorory leads SF with 50.53

Postby ATK » Sat Jun 22, 2013 2:12 pm

Wow McCrory is being teased with these 50.0 PB's
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Re: USATF 2013 - w400: McCorory leads SF with 50.53

Postby DCSIGMA » Sat Jun 22, 2013 2:13 pm

ATK wrote:Wow McCrory is being teased with these 50.0 PB's


Lol..I know...she did everything right ....sub 50 is coming...
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Re: ¶USATF 2013 - w400: Natasha Hastings 49.94 (AL)

Postby beebee » Sat Jun 22, 2013 2:14 pm

Strong team...

Plus we'll have SRR fresh and angry for our 4x400.
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Re: USATF 2013 - w400: McCorory leads SF with 50.53

Postby betterthanb4 » Sat Jun 22, 2013 2:14 pm

ATK wrote:Wow McCrory is being teased with these 50.0 PB's


Yes! Oh so close. She'll get it by Moscow.
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Re: USATF 2013 - w400: McCorory leads SF with 50.53

Postby cladthin » Sat Jun 22, 2013 2:15 pm

Hastings is now starting to fulfill the potential she showed years ago.
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Re: USATF 2013 - w400: McCorory leads SF with 50.53

Postby tm71 » Sat Jun 22, 2013 2:15 pm

betterthanb4 wrote:
tm71 wrote:
betterthanb4 wrote:This should be a good race.

Hoping McCorory gets under 50.


My prediction
1) Hastings 49.8
2) McCrory 49.9
3) Spenser 50.3
6) SRR 50.8



Wow You were spot on!!! :)


I know very very close. At least SRR will be able to run a decent leg on the relay but we were right that she didn't have enough speed to run
50 low
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Re: ¶USATF 2013 - w400: Natasha Hastings 49.94 (AL)

Postby JumboElliott » Sat Jun 22, 2013 2:16 pm

I wonder if Sanya will be able to come back from this. Wariner never came back from virtually the same surgery.
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Re: ¶USATF 2013 - w400: Natasha Hastings 49.94 (AL)

Postby ATK » Sat Jun 22, 2013 2:18 pm

JumboElliott wrote:I wonder if Sanya will be able to come back from this. Wariner never came back from virtually the same surgery.

Wariner is different. His decline had nothing to do with surgery or injury...

Sanya has been up and down over the years because of injuries.
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Re: ¶USATF 2013 - w400: Natasha Hastings 49.94 (AL)

Postby t_monk » Sat Jun 22, 2013 2:19 pm

Hastings 49.94
McCorory 50.01
Spencer 50.58
Atkins 50.77
Beard 51.06
SRR 51.92
Alexander 52.24
Floyd 52.90
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Re: ¶USATF 2013 - w400: Natasha Hastings 49.94 (AL)

Postby JumboElliott » Sat Jun 22, 2013 2:19 pm

Wariner was #1 in the world the year before he had the surgery.
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Re: ¶USATF 2013 - w400: Natasha Hastings 49.94 (AL)

Postby ATK » Sat Jun 22, 2013 2:20 pm

JumboElliott wrote:Wariner was #1 in the world the year before he had the surgery?

His decline began in 2008 starting with the coaching change...his surgery was in 2011...
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Re: ¶USATF 2013 - w400: Natasha Hastings 49.94 (AL)

Postby JumboElliott » Sat Jun 22, 2013 2:59 pm

He was #1 in the world and had three of the four fastest times in 2010. He may have been "in decline" but he was still among the very best in the world.
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Re: ¶USATF 2013 - w400: Natasha Hastings 49.94 (AL)

Postby ATK » Sat Jun 22, 2013 3:16 pm

JumboElliott wrote:He was #1 in the world and had three of the four fastest times in 2010. He may have been "in decline" but he was still among the very best in the world.

Point is comparing JW and SRR in this situation does not make sense.
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Re: ¶USATF 2013 - w400: Natasha Hastings 49.94 (AL)

Postby j-a-m » Sat Jun 22, 2013 6:19 pm

So they had a finish line tape with the Nike logo on it. At about the time the runners entered the homestretch, the tape snapped, and part of it lay in the inside lanes. Didn't really matter because the runners in the inside lane were far behind anyway, but I guess in a close race that distraction could have mattered.
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Re: USATF 2013 - w400: McCorory leads SF with 50.53

Postby j-a-m » Sat Jun 22, 2013 6:21 pm

gktrack wrote:Courtney Okolo with a great run in the junior section, going 51.04 - a big PR... may have made the senior relay squad with that time.

Also a great run by high schooler Kendall Baisden, new HS #1, going 52.03.

Only four runners in the senior final ran faster than 51.04; great run by Okolo.
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Re: ¶USATF 2013 - w400: Natasha Hastings 49.94 (AL)

Postby Dutra5 » Sat Jun 22, 2013 7:13 pm

Hastings, McCrory and Spencer run 50 flat or better in the 400m in Moscow. Felix wins the 200m or otherwise indicates she's in good form. Sanya gets down to 50.5 in Europe over the next 6 weeks. Who's running the 4 x 4 final for the US?
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Re: USATF 2013 - w400: McCorory leads SF with 50.53

Postby tm71 » Sat Jun 22, 2013 7:16 pm

j-a-m wrote:
gktrack wrote:Courtney Okolo with a great run in the junior section, going 51.04 - a big PR... may have made the senior relay squad with that time.

Also a great run by high schooler Kendall Baisden, new HS #1, going 52.03.

Only four runners in the senior final ran faster than 51.04; great run by Okolo.



plus she did it when the wind was gusting even more. her and spencer are the future of the event
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Re: USATF 2013 - w400: McCorory leads SF with 50.53

Postby 26mi235 » Sat Jun 22, 2013 8:34 pm

ATK wrote:Oh wow. SRR running in flats...


When I saw that I knew she would not factor in the race. He heat was fastest -- she does not have the background to run rounds yet; won't really need to for 730 days.
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Re: ¶USATF 2013 - w400: Natasha Hastings 49.94 (AL)

Postby ChuiTai » Sat Jun 22, 2013 8:51 pm

Dutra5 wrote:Hastings, McCrory and Spencer run 50 flat or better in the 400m in Moscow. Felix wins the 200m or otherwise indicates she's in good form. Sanya gets down to 50.5 in Europe over the next 6 weeks. Who's running the 4 x 4 final for the US?

Though it has been outstanding with Richards-Ross and Felix on those relays, I would like to see those ladies that finished top four or five @ USATF in the final, God willing (re. Helsinki 2005). I'm sure many here will say that quartet wouldn't win and it would be foolish to not have at least one, if not both of them, on the line that day. No killers right?
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Re: ¶USATF 2013 - w400: Natasha Hastings 49.94 (AL)

Postby ATK » Sat Jun 22, 2013 9:00 pm

ChuiTai wrote:
Dutra5 wrote:Hastings, McCrory and Spencer run 50 flat or better in the 400m in Moscow. Felix wins the 200m or otherwise indicates she's in good form. Sanya gets down to 50.5 in Europe over the next 6 weeks. Who's running the 4 x 4 final for the US?

Though it has been outstanding with Richards-Ross and Felix on those relays, I would like to see those ladies that finished top four or five @ USATF in the final, God willing (re. Helsinki 2005). I'm sure many here will say that quartet wouldn't win and it would be foolish to not have at least one, if not both of them, on the line that day. No killers right?

Unless SRR can prove her fitness and run close to 50 flat around the time of Moscow, she shouldn't run the relay.

I guess you can put her in the prelims for pure participation sake, but she was 6th, so that leaves 2 people in front of her who earned their relay spot as well.
Hastings, McCrory and Spencer will all only be doing the 400m. And like last year where Trotter and McCrory ran the prelims and finals of the relay, I don't see why these ladies would not proceed with the same route. Only having Felix sit the prelims out for the final.
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Re: ¶USATF 2013 - w400: Natasha Hastings 49.94 (AL)

Postby 26mi235 » Sat Jun 22, 2013 9:35 pm

Remember last time she did not make the team; I think she took apart the first leg competition, and by 600m the US could have put the baton on the ground at an exchange, picked it up, and still had a lead.
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Re: ¶USATF 2013 - w400: Natasha Hastings 49.94 (AL)

Postby ATK » Sat Jun 22, 2013 9:54 pm

26mi235 wrote:Remember last time she did not make the team; I think she took apart the first leg competition, and by 600m the US could have put the baton on the ground at an exchange, picked it up, and still had a lead.

She didn't make the team in 2007 and that was a different circumstance than what she is facing now. In 07 she was dropping 49's left and right the entire year.

In 2011, which in the year you may be thinking, she was on the team because of her Wild Card, but was still running much faster than she is now(already sub 51 in May). Also she proved that she had it in her when she ran 49.6 right before Daegu, as well as making the WC final). Like I said, if she can run close to 50.0 before Moscow she should run the relay, but I wouldn't put her in the relay just because she is SRR and is (arguably) the most dominant 400m runner of the past decade. She has to prove she is better than the other 2 ladies who beat her today. (Atkins and Beard)
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Re: ¶USATF 2013 - w400: Natasha Hastings 49.94 (AL)

Postby Alan Shank » Sat Jun 22, 2013 10:10 pm

ChuiTai wrote:
Dutra5 wrote:Hastings, McCrory and Spencer run 50 flat or better in the 400m in Moscow. Felix wins the 200m or otherwise indicates she's in good form. Sanya gets down to 50.5 in Europe over the next 6 weeks. Who's running the 4 x 4 final for the US?

Though it has been outstanding with Richards-Ross and Felix on those relays, I would like to see those ladies that finished top four or five @ USATF in the final, God willing (re. Helsinki 2005). I'm sure many here will say that quartet wouldn't win and it would be foolish to not have at least one, if not both of them, on the line that day. No killers right?


Since Felix is almost certain to run the 2nd leg, that leaves the top three from Des Moines for the other legs. I don't think Sanya should be in the final. Maybe Atkins and Sanya for the heats.
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Re: ¶USATF 2013 - w400: Natasha Hastings 49.94 (AL)

Postby jamal00005 » Sat Jun 22, 2013 11:11 pm

McCrory is just teasing me with those 50.0, i finally think she will go sub 50 in Moscow.Happy for Spencer and Hastings as well.
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Re: ¶USATF 2013 - w400: Natasha Hastings 49.94 (AL)

Postby Alan Shank » Sat Jun 22, 2013 11:20 pm

jamal00005 wrote:McCrory is just teasing me with those 50.0, i finally think she will go sub 50 in Moscow.Happy for Spencer and Hastings as well.


McCorory:
50.06 last year in NY
50.05 this year in Rome
50.01 today

Please tell me she's not going to run 50.00 next! >:-)
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Re: ¶USATF 2013 - w400: Natasha Hastings 49.94 (AL)

Postby jab2g12 » Sun Jun 23, 2013 2:02 am

ATK wrote:
26mi235 wrote:Remember last time she did not make the team; I think she took apart the first leg competition, and by 600m the US could have put the baton on the ground at an exchange, picked it up, and still had a lead.

She didn't make the team in 2007 and that was a different circumstance than what she is facing now. In 07 she was dropping 49's left and right the entire year.

In 2011, which in the year you may be thinking, she was on the team because of her Wild Card, but was still running much faster than she is now(already sub 51 in May). Also she proved that she had it in her when she ran 49.6 right before Daegu, as well as making the WC final). Like I said, if she can run close to 50.0 before Moscow she should run the relay, but I wouldn't put her in the relay just because she is SRR and is (arguably) the most dominant 400m runner of the past decade. She has to prove she is better than the other 2 ladies who beat her today. (Atkins and Beard)


ERM WHAT IS ARGUABLE ABOUT HER BEING THE MOST DOMINANT, NO QUESTION PLS
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Re: ¶USATF 2013 - w400: Natasha Hastings 49.94 (AL)

Postby 26mi235 » Sun Jun 23, 2013 9:41 am

Alan Shank wrote:Since Felix is almost certain to run the 2nd leg, that leaves the top three from Des Moines for the other legs. I don't think Sanya should be in the final. Maybe Atkins and Sanya for the heats.
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Will, for one thing, it will be Spencer's first (senior) International Championship meet, and running the 4x400 at the end of it may be a bit much. Note that she ran slower here than at NCAAs and that her anchor leg did not match her open 400 in quality. Thus, if she is running 50-flat she will be as fast as they are and will be fresh.

I am not certain how much not wearing spikes cost her, but if she can already run 3x51.x in flats, if her foot improves, I doubt that any of the Americans can run a more reliable anchor. For instance, if they are close to the Russians and the Russian anchor goes out too fast will they have the confidence and control to run the right race?
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Re: ¶USATF 2013 - w400: Natasha Hastings 49.94 (AL)

Postby Bruce Kritzler » Mon Jul 08, 2013 2:11 pm

Believe Spencer was equal 8th at 300m. If she gets her race pattern better for Moscow (and after watching everyone trade wins on DL) she has as good a chance of winning as others.
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