The "Myth" of the Sub-2 Marathon


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Re: The "Myth" of the Sub-2 Marathon

Postby Pego » Wed May 08, 2013 2:00 pm

kuha wrote:And that tells what we need to know about the distribution of talent.


It could also indicate that we reached the promised land in those events earlier than in the marathon.
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Re: The "Myth" of the Sub-2 Marathon

Postby bambam » Wed May 08, 2013 2:05 pm

[quote="TN1965"]So in other words, no one knows if they are good on track. Then how can anyone state as a fact that the talent is shifting from track to road? That's just speculation.

Isn't that the purpose of this board???
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Re: The "Myth" of the Sub-2 Marathon

Postby TN1965 » Wed May 08, 2013 2:07 pm

Another factor is that many of the fast times today are made on fast flat courses (Dubai, Rotterdam, Berlin, Frankfurt, and so forth). If you compare the winning times of the same races in the last 20 years, you will see less remarkable improvement.
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Re: The "Myth" of the Sub-2 Marathon

Postby TN1965 » Wed May 08, 2013 2:09 pm

bambam wrote:
TN1965 wrote:So in other words, no one knows if they are good on track. Then how can anyone state as a fact that the talent is shifting from track to road? That's just speculation.

Isn't that the purpose of this board???


I'd rather see speculation stated as such, rather than presented as undisputable fact. But maybe that's just me.
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Re: The "Myth" of the Sub-2 Marathon

Postby kuha » Wed May 08, 2013 2:10 pm

bambam wrote:
TN1965 wrote:So in other words, no one knows if they are good on track. Then how can anyone state as a fact that the talent is shifting from track to road? That's just speculation.

Isn't that the purpose of this board???


YES! In fact, it's my purpose in life!! :lol:
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Re: The "Myth" of the Sub-2 Marathon

Postby kuha » Wed May 08, 2013 2:14 pm

TN1965 wrote:I'd rather see speculation stated as such, rather than presented as undisputable fact. But maybe that's just me.


I said "I strongly suspect..." And I do. By no stretch of logic is "I strongly suspect..." an assertion of "undisputable fact." I am inclined to think, I would guess...etc.
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Re: The "Myth" of the Sub-2 Marathon

Postby JumboElliott » Wed May 08, 2013 3:20 pm

18.99s wrote:In the 21st century, Dennis Rodman successfully orchestrating a peace treaty between the Koreas is a more likely event than anybody running a sub-2 hr marathon.

So it won't happen for at least another 87 years? Interesting.
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Re: The "Myth" of the Sub-2 Marathon

Postby 26mi235 » Wed May 08, 2013 3:48 pm

We are in the 21st Century...
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Re: The "Myth" of the Sub-2 Marathon

Postby oldhalfmileguy » Thu May 09, 2013 10:18 pm

the people who believe in the idea of a sub 2 all use the same logic that begins with
"who would have thought we would now have guys running..."
well let's go back to what the world marathon record was before the advent of EPO in the late 1980's. Use that as a baseline for your logic, rather than what guys are running now
that time is around 2:07.
To think that current times have not been significantly altered more by "technology" versus advances in training is naive.
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