Amantle Montsho runs 50.14 in Abidjan(late breaking news)


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Amantle Montsho runs 50.14 in Abidjan(late breaking news)

Postby fasttrack85 » Mon May 06, 2013 8:19 pm

No one mentioned in on the board surprisingly and she ran it April 27(over a week ago). Many people on this board were under the impression(me included) that Stephanie Mcpherson 50.43 was the world leading time but it is actually Montsho.
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Re: Amantle Montsho runs 50.14 in Abidjan(late breaking news

Postby gh » Mon May 06, 2013 8:21 pm

nobody who clicks on the "yearly leaders" button at the top of the page would think that.
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Re: Amantle Montsho runs 50.14 in Abidjan(late breaking news

Postby fasttrack85 » Mon May 06, 2013 8:25 pm

Well that makes it even worse that no one would choose to share something so important. If you check the Jamaican Invitational thread a couple people were under the impression that Stephanie Mcpherson had the world lead.
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Re: Amantle Montsho runs 50.14 in Abidjan(late breaking news

Postby aaronk » Mon May 06, 2013 8:38 pm

fasttrack85 wrote:Well that makes it even worse that no one would choose to share something so important. If you check the Jamaican Invitational thread a couple people were under the impression that Stephanie Mcpherson had the world lead.


That's okay!!
Felix and/or Montsho should clear that up in Doha this Friday!! :D
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Re: Amantle Montsho runs 50.14 in Abidjan(late breaking news

Postby fasttrack85 » Mon May 06, 2013 8:43 pm

aaronk wrote:
fasttrack85 wrote:Well that makes it even worse that no one would choose to share something so important. If you check the Jamaican Invitational thread a couple people were under the impression that Stephanie Mcpherson had the world lead.


That's okay!!
Felix and/or Montsho should clear that up in Doha this Friday!! :D



I would have thought Felix would have had this sewn up until I found out about Montsho 50.14. Felix has run 49.83 in May and might need to summon something in that territory against Montsho if she wants to maintain her winning streak.
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Re: Amantle Montsho runs 50.14 in Abidjan(late breaking news

Postby 26mi235 » Mon May 06, 2013 9:07 pm

Not sure that Felix has enough racing to take down either Montsho or 50.14. I think that she just has a 11.13 100 and the 4x100 relay from Penn, where she notable did not run the 4x400 (and neither did SRR, who has some foot injury healing still).
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Re: Amantle Montsho runs 50.14 in Abidjan(late breaking news

Postby Flumpy » Tue May 07, 2013 10:43 am

IAAF site has no mention of this perf. I know it's not the most reliable of sources but McPherson and TBO went up straight away.

Is there a problem with Montsho's time?
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Re: Amantle Montsho runs 50.14 in Abidjan(late breaking news

Postby lionelp1 » Tue May 07, 2013 10:47 am

Hardly late news on 27th April in Abidjan. Tilastopaja picked it up quickly.
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Re: Amantle Montsho runs 50.14 in Abidjan(late breaking news

Postby lionelp1 » Tue May 07, 2013 10:51 am

IAAF and Letsrun ignored it. :?
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Re: Amantle Montsho runs 50.14 in Abidjan(late breaking news

Postby blinger » Tue May 07, 2013 5:46 pm

i don't think where montsho ran that time was a ratified venue by the iaaf hence Mc pherson's time been the world leading.
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Re: Amantle Montsho runs 50.14 in Abidjan(late breaking news

Postby Blues » Tue May 07, 2013 6:55 pm

Amateur video of the race... Gives an idea of the venue as well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROrSbWq5Dvo
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Re: Amantle Montsho runs 50.14 in Abidjan(late breaking news

Postby gh » Tue May 07, 2013 7:47 pm

blinger wrote:i don't think where montsho ran that time was a ratified venue by the iaaf hence Mc pherson's time been the world leading.


sorry, there is no such thing as a "ratified venue." The IAAF does have two classes of tracks for hosting major international championships under its auspices, but pays no attention to 99% of the tracks in the world.
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Re: Amantle Montsho runs 50.14 in Abidjan(late breaking news

Postby Bruce Kritzler » Tue May 07, 2013 8:51 pm

Watched the video, and wonder if this track will undergo the same scrutiny as the San Diego track? Obviously some of the cones are small and others placed well inside the lane line.
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Re: Amantle Montsho runs 50.14 in Abidjan(late breaking news

Postby carfu » Tue May 07, 2013 8:58 pm

The IAAF won't include a performance in their top lists if they don't have access to a copy of the meet's results.

There's no system in place for African results to reach quickly international statisticians and the African Confederation is weak in terms of information (you cannot find results of 2013 CAA meets on their website yet). I have been running the africathle.com website since 2001 - during my free time - to try to give wider access to African results, but I don't have the same energy and time as before, so I haven't been adding many lately.

I was able to find partial results of the Abijdan meet in a Senegalese media on the same day (April 27th), which I shared directly with a few statisticians in my network, including EME News and Tilastopaja that relayed the information quickly. As for a copy of the official results, I only managed to get one today from an athlete who took part to the meet. I forwarded the document to one of the IAAF statisticians as I was not sure whether they already have it or not, so it will likely be updated soon on the IAAF website... or as said above, Felix and/or Montsho will do better in Doha on Friday and that will settle the issue.
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Re: Amantle Montsho runs 50.14 in Abidjan(late breaking news

Postby aaronk » Tue May 07, 2013 8:58 pm

Bruce Kritzler wrote:Watched the video, and wonder if this track will undergo the same scrutiny as the San Diego track? Obviously some of the cones are small and others placed well inside the lane line.


I watched it too.
But, since the race was run entirely in lanes, and Montsho was in lane 4 (??--3? 5?), would the 1st lane configuration matter?
Whereas in the SD 800 race (Actually, ALL the elite races!!), they didn't run in lanes the whole way....but ran mostly in lane 1.

P.S. No matter if it's "legal" or not, Montsho looked GREAT!!
Felix is going to have a race on her hands!!
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Re: Amantle Montsho runs 50.14 in Abidjan(late breaking news

Postby nevetsllim » Wed May 08, 2013 1:40 am

Flumpy wrote:IAAF site has no mention of this perf. I know it's not the most reliable of sources but McPherson and TBO went up straight away.

Is there a problem with Montsho's time?


They probably haven't picked up on it yet because it was set at such a small meet and this was pretty much the only performance of any note.

Valerie Adams has also gone further than the 20.37m WL on the IAAF rankings too but she hasn't thus far been credited with it.
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Re: Amantle Montsho runs 50.14 in Abidjan(late breaking news

Postby gh » Wed May 08, 2013 4:50 am

Bruce Kritzler wrote:Watched the video, and wonder if this track will undergo the same scrutiny as the San Diego track? Obviously some of the cones are small and others placed well inside the lane line.


If there were any lap races we cared about (i.e., fast enough to make the lists) they'd indeed be in trouble.
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Re: Amantle Montsho runs 50.14 in Abidjan(late breaking news

Postby tandfman » Wed May 08, 2013 5:34 am

The Montsho mark now appears on the IAAF list.
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Re: Amantle Montsho runs 50.14 in Abidjan(late breaking news

Postby mcgato » Wed May 08, 2013 6:09 am

Where were they hiding the auto timing equipment on that track?
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Re: Amantle Montsho runs 50.14 in Abidjan(late breaking news

Postby gh » Wed May 08, 2013 6:20 am

modern phototiming doesn't require any major structures on the infield.
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