Top story right now is the subject of this thread. I'm sure somewhere on his site is explanation about the timing and duration of the Japanese HS athletics season. Don't see any full results of this specific race, however, as asked for above.
the site does not have a link to a results page.
Can anybody translate Japanese to English? Here are the meet results, but the Japanese athletes names are in Japanese. You can see the times of the individual places in the events though, as well as wind info. It appears that second place in the 100m final was 10.04, +2.7. Who that was I don't know.
Master Po wrote: The results (linked just above) show wind speed for the final as +2.7. Prelim as +0.9. (And show wind readings for all the other heats/events, too.) This is a reasonably big meet; I don't see any reason at this point, absent other information, to question the wind speed info.
Yea, I agree it all looks legit. The only reason I was freaking out for a sec was because for some reason ePelle wrote "NWI" for the wind reading for the 10.03 run, which startled me for a sec given that I had seen the 10.01 listed as +0.9 and the 10.03 listed as +2.7 in multiple places already at that point, so I was wondering why now it was supposed to be an "NWI". But, it looks like all is well, and it was that he just saw some site that reported they didn't know what the wind reading was, thus his whole temporary NWI debacle at the bottom of the previous page.
Anyways, I agree with you, this looks very legit and I don't see any reason to question it's validity it other than people just not being used to the concept of Asian people being able to run fast or something, which would just be racist pretty much.
Anyways, this is awesome. What an incredible talent we have here exploding onto the scene. I really hope he follows through on his potential and gets some really elite level coaching in the future to be able to run the types of times that he will probably be physically capable of if he takes his training seriously in the future.
nicest person ever wrote:...and it was that he just saw some site that reported they didn't know what the wind reading was, thus his whole temporary NWI debacle at the bottom of the previous page...
Not to quibble, but there were four Japanese sites reporting the same information. Likely a feeder story they'd each picked up and reported for their audiences. In any case, the wind's been verified on the official results pdf.
I actually grew up in a basically all-asian setting from junior high through high school, my school system was over 90% Asian-American, demographically, so although I was white, I was an extreme minority growing up, and basically all of my closest friends are Asian. I even learned to play Mahjong with the families of my friends, and basically grew up in an almost entirely Asian-American environment through my entire adolescence. And all the girls I ever asked out were always Asains, etc.
So, I guess as a result of this I've always been happy when an Asian makes a big accomplishment in a sport that is normally devoid of Asians, such as when Linsanity happened in the NBA earlier, as well as when this kid ran 10.01 just now.
A few days ago when a Chinese athlete ran a 10.04, there was a thread about it and one of the guys in that thread made a rant about how he was angry that Asians don't seem to get any respect in the sport, and how if he had been non-Asian people would've been talking about his performance more. Well, I don't know that I agree with that necessarily, as in, if an Asian guy ran a 9.57, I am pretty sure he would get at least as much press, if not more so than when Bolt ran 9.58, but, I do agree that Asians often seem to be overlooked or ignored as not being real "threats" to win a race whenever they are in a race, even if their P.R.'s are on par with their competitors in their heat or whatever, so I have always found that to be frustrating in that regard.
So yea, I am extremely excited about this, both in terms of it just being awesome that a 17 year old ran such a fast time, and also that it might lead to more exposure for the sport in Asia, and specifically in Japan, which is in my opinion a wonderful thing, because there is clearly a lot of natural track talent over there, and if a higher percentage of their population ran track I think we would have just that many more superb athletes in the sport overall, which is a good thing and would be nice to see!
This just in for fans of Asian sprinting (that's mainly npe): Adam Gemili has an Iranian mother and he can speak Japanese (grade 'A' at GCSE - taken at age 16).
The most impressive fact so far, from the iaaf article, is not the time, but that the youngster beat an OG semifinalist.
So if he had beaten an OG semifinalist with a time of 10.60 instead of 10.01 you would be equally impressed?
no, Id be less impressed... of course we would be more impressed that a 10.6 sprinter could be a OG semifinalist ! ...
At any rate, the kid could be a game changer, someone that thrives at 100m with a rapid step cadence . It will be interesting to see how fast this type of style can go. Hard not to see him under 10 this year. We are in "uncharted waters". ..
The "we are in uncharted waters" line gave me goosebumps lol. I feel all tingly just thinking how low below the 10 second barrier this kid might go by the end of the season. Not to mention, if my math is correct he gets all of next season to push his WJR even FURTHER down than whatever he accomplishes during this season too right? And the sickest of all iss I think if he had been born just 2 weeks later, he would've gotten this season AND the next season AND the one after that to be pushing the WJR lower and lower, not to mention I think it would've caused any of what he did this season to not just be a junior record but rather, a youth record! Why oh why couldn't his parents have gotten funky with each other a few weeks later! If only this kid's dad had gotten into an argument with the kid's mom about who's turn it was to do the dishes, those uncharted waters would have maybe been another tenth of a second deeper yet!
nicest person ever wrote:The "we are in uncharted waters" line gave me goosebumps lol. I feel all tingly just thinking how low below the 10 second barrier this kid might go by the end of the season. Not to mention, if my math is correct he gets all of next season to push his WJR even FURTHER down than whatever he accomplishes during this season too right? And the sickest of all iss I think if he had been born just 2 weeks later, he would've gotten this season AND the next season AND the one after that to be pushing the WJR lower and lower, not to mention I think it would've caused any of what he did this season to not just be a junior record but rather, a youth record! Why oh why couldn't his parents have gotten funky with each other a few weeks later! If only this kid's dad had gotten into an argument with the kid's mom about who's turn it was to do the dishes, those uncharted waters would have maybe been another tenth of a second deeper yet!
LMAO....In honesty i am truly excited to see how far this kid can go as well ..I am truly happy for him
EPelle wrote:Twice broke the Japanese youth record with 10,21 and 10,19, respectively, this past winter (November).
Those marks from 2012 didn't just break the Japanese youth records; he also broke the world youth records. He's the first man in decades (possibly ever) to concurrently hold the world youth and world junior 100m records. (Darrel Brown held both, but not at the same time).
norunner wrote:Just read that Kiryu will be running against Mike Rodgers in Tokyo this sunday. That should be interesting.
Full 100m field for Tokyo RODGERS, Mike PR 9.85 ATKINS, Derrick PR 9.91 Mookie SALAAM PR 9.97 Yoshihide Kiryu PR 10.01 ROGERS, Jason PR 10.06 MAGAKWE, Simon PR 10.06 Masashi Eriguchi PR 10.07 KIMURA,Shintaro PR 10.26
10.01/0.9 ~ 9.95/2.0 (wind-legal) ~ 9.99/1.3 he is not a sub-10 yet because he did not have good enough, yet legal wind. And, it was barely his best of the meet. The question is: is he more likely to go 9.8x this season than to fail to go sub-10?
I would not be surprised if the last several hundredths were lost because of either giving up or not handling the pressure and disappointment. It would likely hit a young guy without too much experience on the biggest stage he has ever seen harder than most.
gh I agree this should not be called a major disapointment however to say he was just .21 off Rodgers and thus Mike's PR is 9.85 is a little misleading. Rodgers had arrived barely a day in advance after a 16 hour flight and was no where near his best and shared that in the post race quotes. I actually think you could say Kiryu is more of what he was last year a 10.1ish sprinter. I look forward to his development but not ready to say that 10.01 was all on the up and up.
Ah shiiiit... gibson isn't gonna be too thrilled about this update lol... (nor am I for that matter, and feel pretty pissed off as well, myself) Especially if what batonless relay asked about is the case, which would make it all the more infuriating. That said, rules are rules, and obv if they allowed people to not use equipment that was up to their standards AT THE TIME (i.e. improving over time), and didn't penalize those who didn't spec up to it by not recognizing their stuff when they did stuff without spec'ing up, they would never be able to get everyone to spec up uniformly and have the sport progress technologically. So, I get that it's necessary etc, I'm just bummed out that it had to happen to this kid of all people. Cuz it's like, how awesome would it have been to have a 17 year old asian kid as tied for the WJR. It could've been helpful in getting both more Asians into the sport in general, as well as in diminishing stereotypes that a lot of non-Asians have about Asians when it comes to certain types of athletics. So I am sad that it ended up turning out this way... sigh...
That said, on a brighter note, he still has a lot of time left to break the WJR (all of the rest of this season, and then all of next season as well), so, given that it wasn't exactly an out-of-nowhere performance by him (since he'd already set world youth record marks with like 10.2x a couple times the previous year), I feel there is a good chance that he might even break the WJR, as well as the 10 second barrier, possibly by a significant margin for all we know, before his time as a junior is up.