Yoshihide Kiryu 10.01 (+0.9)


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Re: Yoshihide Kiryu 10.01 (+0.9)

Postby mal » Mon Jun 17, 2013 5:27 am

18.99s wrote:
mal wrote:loved his balance out of the blocks. While he is much more slight ( :mrgreen: ) it reminded me a little of Borzov's smoothness.


You saw a close-up video of the race? Where? All I saw was this video taken by somebody in the crowd, with no zoom so they look like ants on the curve.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzYCNimVNRM

Despite the low-quality image, it's obvious that it was raining, so that makes the 20.41 more awesome.


I saw the post on here. 100m not the 200. I just looked at that. pfft.
Crowd post, clear for the first 20 then he runs away. His rhythm and balance (not his size) is very much like Borzov - to me.
this one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcUDtvn4sx4

He has a lot of 'work' to do in his last 50 though, especially the last 10. He didn't have the same control that the young lad who ran 9.99 in the high school meet displayed
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Re: Yoshihide Kiryu 10.01 (+0.9)

Postby Madd Marine » Mon Jun 17, 2013 4:10 pm

gibson wrote:i'm seeing a lot of drizzle type rain and a very legit 20.4.
20.0 is possible now for the lad in good conditions.

speaking of good conditions, what is this effort worth, say at mexico city with a 3+ wind (that the gauges show exactly 0.0)?

someone said that kiryu is slight,, huh? i see a MMA type body at light-middle weight. check it;
http://images.supersport.com/2013/5/YoshihideKiryu130405RunsG300.jpghttp://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/images/news/201305/n_46102_4.jpg

here is borzov, a man among boys, notice how slender the other runners are.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_W2oxhVu5JWI/S ... borzov.jpg

i'd say between the two, the japanese figure comes more from nature while the russian physique is more "engineered".


I saw a pic of Borzov shirtless, and I will have to say that despite his leg development, he had the upper body of a couch potato who's "skinny fat" - no muscle to speak of. If it were all drugs the USSR would have had 10 Borzovs. I'm not saying there weren't PEDs involved, but Borzov was no specimen from the waist up.
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Re: Yoshihide Kiryu 10.01 (+0.9)

Postby steve » Mon Jun 17, 2013 6:57 pm

Madd Marine wrote:I saw a pic of Borzov shirtless, and I will have to say that despite his leg development, he had the upper body of a couch potato who's "skinny fat" - no muscle to speak of. If it were all drugs the USSR would have had 10 Borzovs. I'm not saying there weren't PEDs involved, but Borzov was no specimen from the waist up.


http://www.gettyimages.ie/detail/news-p ... /108877984

http://ifitshipitshere.blogspot.com/201 ... rings.html
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Re: Yoshihide Kiryu 10.01 (+0.9)

Postby 18.99s » Sat Jun 29, 2013 1:15 pm

I see Kiryu is on the start list for the DL Birmingham 100m. So is Kim Collins. That means the youngest ever to run sub-10.10 is lining up against the oldest man to ever do the same.
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Re: Yoshihide Kiryu 10.01 (+0.9)

Postby user4 » Sat Jun 29, 2013 2:02 pm

mal wrote:loved his balance out of the blocks. While he is much more slight ( :mrgreen: ) it reminded me a little of Borzov's smoothness.


comparing the latest HS phenom with one of the handful of OG 100/200 double gold winners in all of history ?... lets not get ahead of ourselves.
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Re: Yoshihide Kiryu 10.01 (+0.9)

Postby mal » Mon Jul 01, 2013 11:30 am

user4 wrote:
mal wrote:loved his balance out of the blocks. While he is much more slight ( :mrgreen: ) it reminded me a little of Borzov's smoothness.


comparing the latest HS phenom with one of the handful of OG 100/200 double gold winners in all of history ?... lets not get ahead of ourselves.


Actually good post. But I said he looked like him. Not that he had his quality.

However they both seem to run about the same time. Or is the kid faster? :lol: And the kid still has some 'growing' to do.

And looking like Errol Flynn doesn't make you a great "swordsman".
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Re: Yoshihide Kiryu 10.01 (+0.9)

Postby positive force » Mon Jul 01, 2013 12:08 pm

nicest person ever wrote:Can anyone here weigh in on how the Japanese high school track & field season usually goes? Like, when it roughly begins and ends, and what types of high school district or overall championship events they have, and what time those tend to take place, etc?

The Japanese meet schedule is posted earlier, but Japanese school years begin in the spring, so he's just a couple of months into his school year -- 3rd year HS? 4th year?
Japanese culture favors depth over breadth, so he'll be on the track team all year unless there are some special circumstances. Students will train all year in their discipline but race sporadically.
Curious about his high school, as facilities vary greatly from high school to high school (dirt tracks/no track), unless he's working with a special program outside of school. Rakunan High School is centrally located in Kyoto, so it's probably well-equipped. Better schools are centrally located to reward students who do well on entrance exams shorter commutes while the others have hour-long train rides up into the hills.
Exciting stuff!
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Re: Yoshihide Kiryu 10.01 (+0.9)

Postby rfv » Tue Jul 02, 2013 3:52 am

positive force wrote:
nicest person ever wrote:Can anyone here weigh in on how the Japanese high school track & field season usually goes? Like, when it roughly begins and ends, and what types of high school district or overall championship events they have, and what time those tend to take place, etc?

The Japanese meet schedule is posted earlier, but Japanese school years begin in the spring, so he's just a couple of months into his school year -- 3rd year HS? 4th year?
Japanese culture favors depth over breadth, so he'll be on the track team all year unless there are some special circumstances. Students will train all year in their discipline but race sporadically.
Curious about his high school, as facilities vary greatly from high school to high school (dirt tracks/no track), unless he's working with a special program outside of school. Rakunan High School is centrally located in Kyoto, so it's probably well-equipped. Better schools are centrally located to reward students who do well on entrance exams shorter commutes while the others have hour-long train rides up into the hills.
Exciting stuff!

His high school is not well equipped at all.
http://goo.gl/maps/2Xcnp
It is dirt ground with probably a rubber lane or two for long jump.

He said he has chances to run complete 100m only in races since the ground is so small.
Maybe that partly explains why he has great acceleration (he reaches his top speed at around 40m to 50m) but seems a bit weak in the last part of a race.
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Re: Yoshihide Kiryu 10.01 (+0.9)

Postby El Toro » Tue Jul 02, 2013 4:18 am

positive force wrote:Curious about his high school, as facilities vary greatly from high school to high school (dirt tracks/no track), unless he's working with a special program outside of school.


There is no track at his high school but the Nishikyogoku Athletic Stadium is about 3km away. It is mostly a soccer stadium with associated training track. I'm assuming that is where he trains but have no evidence of this.
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Re: Yoshihide Kiryu 10.01 (+0.9)

Postby user4 » Tue Jul 02, 2013 5:33 am

mal wrote:
user4 wrote:
mal wrote:loved his balance out of the blocks. While he is much more slight ( :mrgreen: ) it reminded me a little of Borzov's smoothness.


comparing the latest HS phenom with one of the handful of OG 100/200 double gold winners in all of history ?... lets not get ahead of ourselves.


Actually good post. But I said he looked like him. Not that he had his quality.

However they both seem to run about the same time. Or is the kid faster? :lol: And the kid still has some 'growing' to do.

And looking like Errol Flynn doesn't make you a great "swordsman".


Based on his 10.5 in the UK this week it is fair to guess that there was something wrong with the timing or wind gauge in his 10.0 a few months ago. Right now Id say he is a legit 10.3 talent and that is very impressive for a 16 year old.
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Re: Yoshihide Kiryu 10.01 (+0.9)

Postby mal » Tue Jul 02, 2013 8:27 am

I don't think its fair to guess anything.

Its in the record books. He's a kid. Stuff happens. Maybe his Wii broke and he was in a funk?
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Re: Yoshihide Kiryu 10.01 (+0.9)

Postby dustoff » Tue Jul 02, 2013 8:45 am

So people don't want to believe his time, but they believe that Kemar Bailey-Cole ran 10.3 and finished dead last at Pre and then ran 9.9 with a headwind just days later?

Kiryu is young and less experienced. Simple as that, in my opinion.
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Re: Yoshihide Kiryu 10.01 (+0.9)

Postby az2004 » Tue Jul 02, 2013 9:44 am

does kiryu have to run the 1st round of the 100 or does he bypass that round

for me the proff will be what he runs in Moscow

lomdon was a failure, but it really will count in moscow
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Re: Yoshihide Kiryu 10.01 (+0.9)

Postby Backflip » Tue Jul 02, 2013 10:27 am

You guys have to consider the fact that this was his first time competing in a competition of this level outside of his country. Of course he was a little off. Remember, he is 17!

Also, he did give Mike Rodgers a run for his money in May.....he is legit.
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Re: Yoshihide Kiryu 10.01 (+0.9)

Postby Master Po » Thu Feb 13, 2014 3:10 am

This from Japan Running News:

http://japanrunningnews.blogspot.com/20 ... -60-m.html

Kiryu runs 6.63, then 6.59 at Japan's Indoor Ch. Now 18yo (dob 15 December 1995) & a HS senior, these seem like pretty good marks -- afaik, this is his first indoor season. I wonder if he will run Asian Indoor Ch. this weekend. I don't have much other comparative contexts for these marks beyond what's stated on this JRN post, and am not arguing for their "world-historical" significance :) but these marks seem pretty good for a just-turned-18yo HS senior. Placed on the all-time US hs list, for instance, he would be #2.
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