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Yoshihide Kiryu 10.01 (+0.9)

Postby jamal00005 » Sun Apr 28, 2013 8:31 pm

Here is the race ...just saw it on my twitter from Ato .Apparently he is just 17 Brilliant imo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3BW0ZKa ... e=youtu.be
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Re: Yoshihide Kiryu 10.01 (+0.9)

Postby 26mi235 » Sun Apr 28, 2013 9:14 pm

The Japanese 4x100 team was doing stunningly well at World Juniors, leading Jamaica and close to the US at 330m but got rolled up. Was he on the team? If not, as anchor he might have taken them to first.
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Re: Yoshihide Kiryu 10.01 (+0.9)

Postby EPelle » Sun Apr 28, 2013 9:58 pm

Kiryu wasn't on the Japanese 4x1 team. Twice broke the Japanese youth record with 10,21 and 10,19, respectively, this past winter (November).

http://japanrunningnews.blogspot.com/20 ... youth.html
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Postby beebee » Sun Apr 28, 2013 10:33 pm

Very cool...I'm African American and I am tired of seeing virtually all Black 100 meter Championship finals.
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Re: Yoshihide Kiryu 10.01 (+0.9)

Postby gktrack » Sun Apr 28, 2013 10:59 pm

I believe the Japanese nation record is 10.00 (Koji Ito, 1998)?

If he's a junior, would it now be three juniors at the 10.01 junior record (Brown '03, Demps '08)?

This made me think of what Carl Lewis said last month... “Look how many Asians there are (in the world). You can’t get one fast one? There are almost two billion. It defies logic,” the 51-year-old said.
http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/sports/03/25/13/carl-lewis-says-asians-need-sport-heroes
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Re: Yoshihide Kiryu 10.01 (+0.9)

Postby DentyCracker » Sun Apr 28, 2013 11:47 pm

He looks the real deal. I think he will break 10 this year. His arm action I don't think is fully effective. He will be 18 in December so not a youth. He has the WORLD youth record for 100m from last year with his 10.19
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Re: Yoshihide Kiryu 10.01 (+0.9)

Postby 26mi235 » Sun Apr 28, 2013 11:56 pm

Two and half billion 'Asians' just in China and India alone. Add in eastern Russia, SE Asia/Indonesia, Korea, ... and it is edging towards half the world population.
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Postby eldanielfire » Mon Apr 29, 2013 12:16 am

26mi235 wrote:Two and half billion 'Asians' just in China and India alone. Add in eastern Russia, SE Asia/Indonesia, Korea, ... and it is edging towards half the world population.


I'm not sure eastern Russia has any significant population besides snow ;)

I'm not surprised Asia has finally found a sub 10 runner, it makes sense in a total population sense but genetics doesn't quite work like that and the high abundance of the right genes will not appear in all areas.
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Re: Yoshihide Kiryu 10.01 (+0.9)

Postby Master Po » Mon Apr 29, 2013 2:48 am

gktrack wrote:I believe the Japanese nation record is 10.00 (Koji Ito, 1998)?
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Yes. 13 December 1998, Bangkok, +1.9.
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Re: Yoshihide Kiryu 10.01 (+0.9)

Postby nicest person ever » Mon Apr 29, 2013 3:13 am

YESSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!

I am extremely thrilled about this.

I actually grew up in a basically all-asian setting from junior high through high school, my school system was over 90% Asian-American, demographically, so although I was white, I was an extreme minority growing up, and basically all of my closest friends are Asian. I even learned to play Mahjong with the families of my friends, and basically grew up in an almost entirely Asian-American environment through my entire adolescence. And all the girls I ever asked out were always Asains, etc.

So, I guess as a result of this I've always been happy when an Asian makes a big accomplishment in a sport that is normally devoid of Asians, such as when Linsanity happened in the NBA earlier, as well as when this kid ran 10.01 just now.

A few days ago when a Chinese athlete ran a 10.04, there was a thread about it and one of the guys in that thread made a rant about how he was angry that Asians don't seem to get any respect in the sport, and how if he had been non-Asian people would've been talking about his performance more. Well, I don't know that I agree with that necessarily, as in, if an Asian guy ran a 9.57, I am pretty sure he would get at least as much press, if not more so than when Bolt ran 9.58, but, I do agree that Asians often seem to be overlooked or ignored as not being real "threats" to win a race whenever they are in a race, even if their P.R.'s are on par with their competitors in their heat or whatever, so I have always found that to be frustrating in that regard.

So yea, I am extremely excited about this, both in terms of it just being awesome that a 17 year old ran such a fast time, and also that it might lead to more exposure for the sport in Asia, and specifically in Japan, which is in my opinion a wonderful thing, because there is clearly a lot of natural track talent over there, and if a higher percentage of their population ran track I think we would have just that many more superb athletes in the sport overall, which is a good thing and would be nice to see!

I'm pumped!!!
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Postby norunner » Mon Apr 29, 2013 3:36 am

After reading about this i checked the Junior All-Time-List on iaaf.org and i noticed one curious thing: Not a single jamaican among the top 20. Not even Blake made it with his 10.11s. Which to me suggests that fast times at junior level don't mean that much.
http://www.iaaf.org/records/toplists/sp ... en/junior/
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Postby nicest person ever » Mon Apr 29, 2013 3:51 am

norunner wrote:After reading about this i checked the Junior All-Time-List on iaaf.org and i noticed one curious thing: Not a single jamaican among the top 20. Not even Blake made it with his 10.11s. Which to me suggests that fast times at junior level don't mean that much.
http://www.iaaf.org/records/toplists/sp ... en/junior/


Then again... on the flip side, this was apparently this kid's first race of the season. So, given how sprinters tend to get considerably faster by the latter part of the season than they are at the very beginning of the season, he might run considerably faster than this and blow away the WJR by an huge margin by the time this season is over for all we know.

Not to mention that he is pretty far below the WJR age limit, being just 17, whereas both of the previous 10.01 guys were 18 when they ran theirs.

So, everything about this looks even more impressive than either of the previous WJR's, and looks like he might become a serious bigtime superstar sprinter in the future for all we know.

I am very excited to see how he does in the remainder of his season.
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Re: Yoshihide Kiryu 10.01 (+0.9)

Postby norunner » Mon Apr 29, 2013 4:03 am

nicest person ever wrote:
norunner wrote:After reading about this i checked the Junior All-Time-List on iaaf.org and i noticed one curious thing: Not a single jamaican among the top 20. Not even Blake made it with his 10.11s. Which to me suggests that fast times at junior level don't mean that much.
http://www.iaaf.org/records/toplists/sp ... en/junior/


Then again... on the flip side, this was apparently this kid's first race of the season. So, given how sprinters tend to get considerably faster by the latter part of the season than they are at the very beginning of the season, he might run considerably faster than this and blow away the WJR by an huge margin by the time this season is over for all we know.

Not to mention that he is pretty far below the WJR age limit, being just 17, whereas both of the previous 10.01 guys were 18 when they ran theirs.

So, everything about this looks even more impressive than either of the previous WJR's, and looks like he might become a serious bigtime superstar sprinter in the future for all we know.

I am very excited to see how he does in the remainder of his season.
I would love to see that kid improve a lot further and kick american and jamaican butt in 95/96. But going from 10.0 to 9.7 is a lot more difficult then going from 10.2 to 10.0. I would also like some more info on him, Tilastopaja only shows two competitions for 2012 and a total of four races. Was he injured before? Or did other results never make it into international databases?
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Postby nicest person ever » Mon Apr 29, 2013 4:32 am

Can anyone here weigh in on how the Japanese high school track & field season usually goes? Like, when it roughly begins and ends, and what types of high school district or overall championship events they have, and what time those tend to take place, etc?

Also, are the Diamond League going to invite him to some of the major circuit events based on this early season WJR? I really hope they do. He ran that time against guys who were clearly nowhere near being in the same ballpark as being in his league, so, it would be awesome if he could continue his season into the international circuit scene and run some late season races against the big boys. Maybe he would be able to run a 9.8x or something by then, being later in the season, on a top notch track with all the adrenaline and the stronger competition etc (or maybe the opposite would happen and he'd get intimidated by the hugeness of that stuff being such a young kid and all, but who knows, definitely would be cool for him to get the chance at it though and to see what would happen!)
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Re: Yoshihide Kiryu 10.01 (+0.9)

Postby user4 » Mon Apr 29, 2013 4:57 am

Watching the race, the two athletes finishing 2nd and 3rd looked quite impressive too. Based on the view of the stands it doesnt look like it is the great interest of the japanese people that inspires these kids. Looked like a mid-week cleaning day at a football stadium.
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Re: Yoshihide Kiryu 10.01 (+0.9)

Postby lionelp1 » Mon Apr 29, 2013 5:20 am

Exciting though it is to see an Asian talent, a World Youth Champion, producing a great performance at sub 18 year, I caution us to note that the most relevant thoughts are as mentioned on this thread already; no Jamaicans in the top 20 AT Juniors... much better I reckon to produce 10 secs when you are hitting 20 than under 18; there is a good number of the top AT Juniors who disappeared from view after their great Junior performances; the ability to run a tenth off this performance down to 9.90 will indeed be much tougher than his improvement from 2012 to this 10.01.

In the final he ran 10.03 with a 2.70 tailwind. Predictions about 9.8s are like the kiss of death.Will the Japanese Federation select him for the WC.??
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Postby 18.99s » Mon Apr 29, 2013 5:31 am

nicest person ever wrote:Can anyone here weigh in on how the Japanese high school track & field season usually goes? Like, when it roughly begins and ends, and what types of high school district or overall championship events they have, and what time those tend to take place, etc?


I don't know what the Japanese HS season is like, but according to the IAAF article about this, the 10.01 today was only his first race of 2013. So either it's still early in their track season or he couldn't run earlier in the year due to injury.
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Postby norunner » Mon Apr 29, 2013 5:35 am

nicest person ever wrote:Also, are the Diamond League going to invite him to some of the major circuit events based on this early season WJR? I really hope they do.
Well he is only 17, so he may have to consider school/homework/exams etc. before flying around the world. Doha or Shanghai would be possible but the european meetings? He would have to stay in europe for a while to adjust to the time difference and then there are so many factors that might influence such a young kids performance. If i was his coach i wouldn't send him to europe just yet.
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Re: Yoshihide Kiryu 10.01 (+0.9)

Postby nicest person ever » Mon Apr 29, 2013 5:45 am

norunner wrote:If i was his coach i wouldn't send him to europe just yet.


I would.
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Re: Yoshihide Kiryu 10.01 (+0.9)

Postby 18.99s » Mon Apr 29, 2013 5:56 am

Japanese high schools only get about 4-5 weeks for the summer break, so sending him to a meet in Europe would interfere with his schooling.
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Postby nicest person ever » Mon Apr 29, 2013 6:01 am

Fuck school!!! Someone please send this kid to the World Champs already or I will go to Japan and start picketing and protesting, demanding it! Lolz.

Okay fine not really, but I'm super pumped for this kid and really hope I get to see what he can do further on into the season against faster competition.
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Postby user4 » Mon Apr 29, 2013 6:02 am

Can someone please post the full results or a link to them. Videos of the race are everywhere, but actual results regarding the other lanes is impossible to find.
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Re: Yoshihide Kiryu 10.01 (+0.9)

Postby 18.99s » Mon Apr 29, 2013 6:08 am

nicest person ever wrote:Fuck school!!! Someone please send this kid to the World Champs already or I will go to Japan and start picketing and protesting, demanding it! Lolz.


He'll go to the WC. He'll probably be the fastest guy on the team, and the WC is during their summer break. But taking nearly a week off in the school year to compete in Europe is another matter.
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Postby 18.99s » Mon Apr 29, 2013 6:12 am

user4 wrote:Can someone please post the full results or a link to them. Videos of the race are everywhere, but actual results regarding the other lanes is impossible to find.


You'll probably have to search for the meet name in Japanese.
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Postby nicest person ever » Mon Apr 29, 2013 6:15 am

18.99s wrote:
nicest person ever wrote:Fuck school!!! Someone please send this kid to the World Champs already or I will go to Japan and start picketing and protesting, demanding it! Lolz.


He'll go to the WC. He'll probably be the fastest guy on the team, and the WC is during their summer break. But taking nearly a week off in the school year to compete in Europe is another matter.


Well then hopefully Yoshihide will be like Lindsay Weir on the pilot episode of the tv show Freaks and Geeks where she ditches the study hall crew and starts hanging out with Daniel Desario and his stoner buddies and starts cutting class and being all rebellious. That way once this kid becomes a total badass and is like "Fuck the system y'all, I'ma go crush souls in Europe. Peace out bitches!" he's gonna be up against dudes like Doc Patton and Yohan Blake and Usain Bolt and they'll push him to run like 9.8x by the late season maybe. It's gonna be awesome.

::a car muffler bangs loudly out in front of my house waking me up from my daydream/fantasy and I breath frantically for a few confused seconds as reality sets back in:: :oops: :lol:
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Postby nicest person ever » Mon Apr 29, 2013 6:19 am

Lol, I would be the worst mentor of all time.
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Re: Yoshihide Kiryu 10.01 (+0.9)

Postby Master Po » Mon Apr 29, 2013 6:24 am

ePelle posted the link, above, but given that this is a Japan-focused thread, and it's possible some readers don't know about Brett Larner's excellent site:

Japan Running News
http://japanrunningnews.blogspot.com/

Top story right now is the subject of this thread. I'm sure somewhere on his site is explanation about the timing and duration of the Japanese HS athletics season. Don't see any full results of this specific race, however, as asked for above.
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Postby user4 » Mon Apr 29, 2013 6:38 am

Master Po wrote:ePelle posted the link, above, but given that this is a Japan-focused thread, and it's possible some readers don't know about Brett Larner's excellent site:

Japan Running News
http://japanrunningnews.blogspot.com/

Top story right now is the subject of this thread. I'm sure somewhere on his site is explanation about the timing and duration of the Japanese HS athletics season. Don't see any full results of this specific race, however, as asked for above.


the site does not have a link to a results page.
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Re: Yoshihide Kiryu 10.01 (+0.9)

Postby EPelle » Mon Apr 29, 2013 6:54 am

The 10,01 was from a prelim round at Oda Memorial; Kirya ran 10,03 (NWI) in the final.
A few photos from the meet: http://mainichi.jp/graph/2013/04/29/201 ... c/002.html
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Postby Master Po » Mon Apr 29, 2013 7:01 am

A question was asked above about the Japanese track calendar, especially as it might relate to junior-level/HS athletics. This calendar doesn't explain everything, but does show the meet schedule, including jr/HS championships. Might be informative, for some:

http://www.jaaf.or.jp/english/competition2013.php

(And, no, this link also does not have results for the performance that is the focus of this thread.)
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Postby nicest person ever » Mon Apr 29, 2013 7:03 am

Are you sure the 10.03 in the final was a NWI? Cuz earlier I thought I saw that one posted as being a +2.7w. So which is it?

Man, I hope this ambiguity regarding the wind speed in the finals doesn't mean the 10.01 +0.9 in the prelims is questionable in regards to wind speed too. I wish there were more details regarding this. I think it was probably totally legit, considering how badly he crushed the field, but it does scare me a little that his 10.03 finals run had the dreaded "NWI" associated with it (if that is actually true, I mean).
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Postby Blues » Mon Apr 29, 2013 7:10 am

user4 wrote:
Master Po wrote:ePelle posted the link, above, but given that this is a Japan-focused thread, and it's possible some readers don't know about Brett Larner's excellent site:

Japan Running News
http://japanrunningnews.blogspot.com/

Top story right now is the subject of this thread. I'm sure somewhere on his site is explanation about the timing and duration of the Japanese HS athletics season. Don't see any full results of this specific race, however, as asked for above.


the site does not have a link to a results page.



Can anybody translate Japanese to English? Here are the meet results, but the Japanese athletes names are in Japanese. You can see the times of the individual places in the events though, as well as wind info. It appears that second place in the 100m final was 10.04, +2.7. Who that was I don't know. *Edit- second place was Ryota Yamagata, Japan's current top senior 100m sprinter, and still relatively young at age 20...


http://yasumikiyuki.web.fc2.com/2013hom ... 000001.pdf
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Postby EPelle » Mon Apr 29, 2013 7:14 am

nicest person ever wrote:Are you sure the 10.03 in the final was a NWI? Cuz earlier I thought I saw that one posted as being a +2.7w. So which is it?

The newspaper article from which it was translated stated that the wind reading was unknown, hence NWI. It was, indeed, +2,7 mps according to the results.
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Postby norunner » Mon Apr 29, 2013 7:17 am

Here is a different video of the same race, including a short interview.
So all japanese speaking one step forward please and translate. :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... y-BuDc1_wo
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Postby Master Po » Mon Apr 29, 2013 7:21 am

nicest person ever wrote:Are you sure the 10.03 in the final was a NWI? Cuz earlier I thought I saw that one posted as being a +2.7w. So which is it?

Man, I hope this ambiguity regarding the wind speed in the finals doesn't mean the 10.01 +0.9 in the prelims is questionable in regards to wind speed too. I wish there were more details regarding this. I think it was probably totally legit, considering how badly he crushed the field, but it does scare me a little that his 10.03 finals run had the dreaded "NWI" associated with it (if that is actually true, I mean).


The results (linked just above) show wind speed for the final as +2.7. Prelim as +0.9. (And show wind readings for all the other heats/events, too.) This is a reasonably big meet; I don't see any reason at this point, absent other information, to question the wind speed info.
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Postby Blues » Mon Apr 29, 2013 7:23 am

Blues wrote:
user4 wrote:
Master Po wrote:ePelle posted the link, above, but given that this is a Japan-focused thread, and it's possible some readers don't know about Brett Larner's excellent site:

Japan Running News
http://japanrunningnews.blogspot.com/

Top story right now is the subject of this thread. I'm sure somewhere on his site is explanation about the timing and duration of the Japanese HS athletics season. Don't see any full results of this specific race, however, as asked for above.


the site does not have a link to a results page.



Can anybody translate Japanese to English? Here are the meet results, but the Japanese athletes names are in Japanese. You can see the times of the individual places in the events though, as well as wind info. It appears that second place in the 100m final was 10.04, +2.7. Who that was I don't know.

http://yasumikiyuki.web.fc2.com/2013hom ... 000001.pdf


I found this regarding the final, along with the 100m final video.. The second place athlete has a PR of 10.07, +1.3, from the London Olympics.:

1 Kiryu Xiang Xiu 10.03
2 Ryota Yamagata 10.04
3 Eriguchi Tadashi 10.15


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8stErvnAoU
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Re: Yoshihide Kiryu 10.01 (+0.9)

Postby az2004 » Mon Apr 29, 2013 7:32 am

wind was 0.9 or at least that's what took it to be when I watched the big screen version of the race

send him to shanghai dl meet do they have a 100???
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Postby az2004 » Mon Apr 29, 2013 7:38 am

jjust watch video again and I got 0.9 again shen he bends down next to the time
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Re: Yoshihide Kiryu 10.01 (+0.9)

Postby nicest person ever » Mon Apr 29, 2013 7:49 am

Master Po wrote:
The results (linked just above) show wind speed for the final as +2.7. Prelim as +0.9. (And show wind readings for all the other heats/events, too.) This is a reasonably big meet; I don't see any reason at this point, absent other information, to question the wind speed info.


Yea, I agree it all looks legit. The only reason I was freaking out for a sec was because for some reason ePelle wrote "NWI" for the wind reading for the 10.03 run, which startled me for a sec given that I had seen the 10.01 listed as +0.9 and the 10.03 listed as +2.7 in multiple places already at that point, so I was wondering why now it was supposed to be an "NWI". But, it looks like all is well, and it was that he just saw some site that reported they didn't know what the wind reading was, thus his whole temporary NWI debacle at the bottom of the previous page.

Anyways, I agree with you, this looks very legit and I don't see any reason to question it's validity it other than people just not being used to the concept of Asian people being able to run fast or something, which would just be racist pretty much.

Anyways, this is awesome. What an incredible talent we have here exploding onto the scene. I really hope he follows through on his potential and gets some really elite level coaching in the future to be able to run the types of times that he will probably be physically capable of if he takes his training seriously in the future.
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