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Walter Dix???

Postby valleyrunner » Tue Apr 23, 2013 8:54 pm

With the release of the USA vs the World line-ups for Penn it strikes me most that Walter Dix is awol. He has not made an appearance this season. He was rumored to be competing awhile back in LA but then was a no-show at a small meet where he is now training at Pasadena CC under Larry Wade.

A year ago he ran some early relays and popped a very fast albeit slightly windy 9.8 at Mt SAC. I believe he is still a Nike athlete which would make him a normal auto into Penn but his absence is a bit concerning.
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Re: Walter Dix???

Postby gktrack » Tue Apr 23, 2013 9:33 pm

Thanks valleyrunner... This was the only mention of him since last year, and as you stated, he did not run at the Pasadena meet, in any of the sprint events. I guess we'll just have to wait and find out what's up with Walter.
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Re: Walter Dix???

Postby Mark Setgo » Tue Apr 23, 2013 9:51 pm

My dad(meatball) an I were sitting next to Ryan Bailey's family at Mt SAC. He asked if Dix was still training with John Smith and company, and they confirmed that Dix had left Smith's camp. Will be interesting to see where and when he turns up.
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Re: Walter Dix???

Postby batonless relay » Wed Apr 24, 2013 4:12 am

When people ask why shoe companies are cutting back on signing athletes, I would suspect that the shoe companies are getting a bit bored with the mercurial training/racing types and the "maybe I'll get let elective surgery" on the company dime types. Because as a fan of the sport, I know I do.
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Re: Walter Dix???

Postby Marlow » Wed Apr 24, 2013 5:19 am

batonless relay wrote:I would suspect that the shoe companies are getting a bit bored with the mercurial training/racing types and the "maybe I'll get let elective surgery" on the company dime types. Because as a fan of the sport, I know I do.

The elites are not there to do what you want them to do. Their first and last motive is to perform at a high enough level to be paid (well) for what they do. I'll trust them to know what that is. The shoe companies are also well versed in what that takes.
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Re: Walter Dix???

Postby gh » Wed Apr 24, 2013 5:23 am

Shoe companies can also get trapped into contracts with which they are not pleased.
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Re: Walter Dix???

Postby nicest person ever » Wed Apr 24, 2013 6:51 am

Well, I hope everything is fine with him. That said, I think maybe it's a little early in the season to be taking his absence as anything necessarily being "wrong". I mean, it's still April. Have Asafa Powell or Tyson Gay or some of the other big boys even run yet? I think I've seen plenty of bigtimers wait all the way until partway into may before running their first real race of the season to begin their season. I guess not everyone wants to start the season off as early as possible, cuz maybe they feel like stretching the duration of first actual competitive run to last actual competitive run too much might make it harder for them to peak as optimally/at the right time for World Champs or something, or might make them burn out to soon while there are still some lucrative post-WC international circuit events to attend in the late-season that they would prefer to be in fast form for if possible. I could be way off in regards to this though, as I am pretty clueless when it comes to the length-of-season/when-to-begin-a-season aspect of the sport in regards to training/peaking strategy. Maybe some of you who know more about that type of stuff can weigh in on it with thoughts about this.
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Re: Walter Dix???

Postby Blues » Wed Apr 24, 2013 7:35 am

valleyrunner wrote:With the release of the USA vs the World line-ups for Penn it strikes me most that Walter Dix is awol. He has not made an appearance this season. He was rumored to be competing awhile back in LA but then was a no-show at a small meet where he is now training at Pasadena CC under Larry Wade.

A year ago he ran some early relays and popped a very fast albeit slightly windy 9.8 at Mt SAC. I believe he is still a Nike athlete which would make him a normal auto into Penn but his absence is a bit concerning.


I don't know where they got this information from, and it very well could be totally wrong, but this was in today's Penn Relays article in the University of Pennsylvania student newspaper:

"Fresh off his 100m dash bronze medal from the London 2012 Summer Olympic games, Justin Gatlin will headline the American men’s 4x100m relay team.

The former gold medalist was a part of the team that captured first in this event at the Penn Relays a year ago.

Gatlin, along with teammates Mike Rodgers and Walter Dix, will be looking to defend his title against a variety of strong opponents."


http://blogs.dailypennsylvanian.com/the ... -athletes/
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Re: Walter Dix???

Postby br » Wed Apr 24, 2013 8:17 am

According to his Twitter account, he is anxious to get going. On April 20, when asked when he will run his first Diamond League race, he tweets, "idk....maybe I should take a poll. yall wanna see me open up in NY, Oregon,??? Where?? Lol"

https://twitter.com/RealWalterDix
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Re: Walter Dix???

Postby gktrack » Thu May 02, 2013 11:47 pm

Walter is entered in the Oxy meet this weekend in the 100m, representing "Trojan TC", first heat against G. Rutherford, M. Grimes and Qatar's first sub 10 guy (from 2007 though), S. Francis...
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Re: Walter Dix???

Postby ZELLGADISS » Fri May 03, 2013 3:32 am

We will see his actual shape then.
If he gets 10.10 or less he is good.
If he gets 10.2 or more, i see him in bad shape...
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Re: Walter Dix???

Postby jamboy » Fri May 03, 2013 4:57 pm

Walter will have a hard time making the US team to Moscow in the 100m. He certainly won't be beating Gatlin or Tyson. He will be up for possibly third against Patton.
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Re: Walter Dix???

Postby bignate88 » Fri May 03, 2013 5:01 pm

jamboy wrote:Walter will have a hard time making the US team to Moscow in the 100m. He certainly won't be beating Gatlin or Tyson. He will be up for possibly third against Patton.

Let's see where he is fitness-wise first before we start dismissing him from the jump.
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Re: Walter Dix???

Postby jamboy » Fri May 03, 2013 6:11 pm

bignate88 wrote:
jamboy wrote:Walter will have a hard time making the US team to Moscow in the 100m. He certainly won't be beating Gatlin or Tyson. He will be up for possibly third against Patton.

Let's see where he is fitness-wise first before we start dismissing him from the jump.


Even at his best, Walter should not be close to Gatlin or Tyson over 100m.
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Re: Walter Dix???

Postby bignate88 » Fri May 03, 2013 6:20 pm

jamboy wrote:
bignate88 wrote:
jamboy wrote:Walter will have a hard time making the US team to Moscow in the 100m. He certainly won't be beating Gatlin or Tyson. He will be up for possibly third against Patton.

Let's see where he is fitness-wise first before we start dismissing him from the jump.


Even at his best, Walter should not be close to Gatlin or Tyson over 100m.

.....In your mind that is. And I doubt you actually believe that anyway.
Walter Dix at his very best is AT LEAST as good as Gatlin and dare I say as good as Tyson Gay. But like I said, let's see where he is first before we start jumping to conclusions
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Re: Walter Dix???

Postby ZELLGADISS » Sat May 04, 2013 2:19 pm

Dix so good like Gatlin or Gay in 100m? :lol: :lol:
I think that here the people is joking sometimes...

Gay is a beast, very competitive, he can make 9.8 easily and in good shape sub 9.8 easy.
Gatlin is big competitor too, he made great times too.

Dix? hehehe, for him sub10 is hard, and sub 9.9 very hard, only 1 time in his life and 9.88¡¡¡

the people is serious telling that Dix is so good like Gatlin or Gay?
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Re: Walter Dix???

Postby ATK » Sat May 04, 2013 2:27 pm

remember that Dix is a much better, or at least proven up to this point, at the 200. Much better than both Gay and Gatlin. And pretty much only behind Bolt and Blake.
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Re: Walter Dix???

Postby ZELLGADISS » Sat May 04, 2013 2:47 pm

ATK in 200 Dix is a great runner, without doubt.
But in 100 in my opinion "only" good runner.

By the other hand, Gatlin and Gay being in theory(for me too) worst runners in 200 that Dix, they are world champions in 200 while Dix no :lol: :lol:
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Re: Walter Dix???

Postby bignate88 » Sat May 04, 2013 4:20 pm

ZELLGADISS wrote:Dix so good like Gatlin or Gay in 100m? :lol: :lol:
I think that here the people is joking sometimes...

Gay is a beast, very competitive, he can make 9.8 easily and in good shape sub 9.8 easy.
Gatlin is big competitor too, he made great times too.

Dix? hehehe, for him sub10 is hard, and sub 9.9 very hard, only 1 time in his life and 9.88¡¡¡

the people is serious telling that Dix is so good like Gatlin or Gay?

....I'm very serious actually.
See you're only looking at what he's done face value, and I'm looking at his potential, which he really hasn't tapped into. The 200m is more forgiving obviously, and we've seen the success he's had in it. But when it comes to the 100, Walter is still raw. His starts are average at best (for an elite of course) and technique-wise, there is much to be desired. Yet in spite of this, he's managed to run 9.88 and 9.91. Why? Because he's THAT talented. If John Smith(or whoever he's with now) can help him piece together a technically sound race, he'll be dangerous.
But have your fun laughing Because soon I'll have my turn :lol:
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Re: Walter Dix???

Postby JumboElliott » Sat May 04, 2013 4:23 pm

Walter Dix's international medals basically speak for themselves.
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Re: Walter Dix???

Postby ZELLGADISS » Sat May 04, 2013 4:28 pm

bignate88 wrote:
ZELLGADISS wrote:Dix so good like Gatlin or Gay in 100m?
I think that here the people is joking sometimes...

Gay is a beast, very competitive, he can make 9.8 easily and in good shape sub 9.8 easy.
Gatlin is big competitor too, he made great times too.

Dix? hehehe, for him sub10 is hard, and sub 9.9 very hard, only 1 time in his life and 9.88¡¡¡

the people is serious telling that Dix is so good like Gatlin or Gay?

....I'm very serious actually.
See you're only looking at what he's done face value, and I'm looking at his potential, which he really hasn't tapped into. The 200m is more forgiving obviously, and we've seen the success he's had in it. But when it comes to the 100, Walter is still raw. His starts are average at best (for an elite of course) and technique-wise, there is much to be desired. Yet in spite of this, he's managed to run 9.88 and 9.91. Why? Because he's THAT talented. If John Smith(or whoever he's with now) can help him piece together a technically sound race, he'll be dangerous.
But have your fun laughing Because soon I'll have my turn :lol:


ok if Dix gets someday 9.7 you will can laught, but i doubt it so much :lol:
And in the sport IF IF IF.. is not important, the important is MAKE IT..
And until now Dix in 100m only is good runner.
In 200 he showed that he is very very good, elite runner and serious option for medal in the big events.
In 100 NO.

Take care :wink:
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Re: Walter Dix???

Postby JumboElliott » Sat May 04, 2013 4:36 pm

How do you explain the fact that he's won a medal every time he's made an international team?
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Re: Walter Dix???

Postby ZELLGADISS » Sat May 04, 2013 4:39 pm

JumboElliot really you think that in last OG although Dix is 100% he had minimum options against 9.79 Gatlin and 9.80 Gay? the answer is NO.

Dix in 100m is a lot of worst runner that Gatlin or Gay, without doubt.
If you think that no, ok you think that you want...
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Re: Walter Dix???

Postby br » Sat May 04, 2013 4:42 pm

JumboElliott wrote:How do you explain the fact that he's won a medal every time he's made an international team?

I think the results say it all. Dix does well in championships.
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Re: Walter Dix???

Postby bignate88 » Sat May 04, 2013 4:45 pm

ZELLGADISS wrote:
bignate88 wrote:
ZELLGADISS wrote:

ok if Dix gets someday 9.7 you will can laught, but i doubt it so much :lol:
And in the sport IF IF IF.. is not important, the important is MAKE IT..
And until now Dix in 100m only is good runner.
In 200 he showed that he is very very good, elite runner and serious option for medal in the big events.
In 100 NO.

Take care :wink:

You can doubt all you want my friend. I like to see the cup as half full :wink:
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Re: Walter Dix???

Postby JumboElliott » Sat May 04, 2013 4:50 pm

I don't know how someone can question the credentials of a man who is fourth fastest ever at 200m has more individual international medals than Asafa Powell.
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Re: Walter Dix???

Postby ZELLGADISS » Sat May 04, 2013 5:05 pm

Jumbo i think that NOBODY doubted about Dix in 200m... :roll:

But in 100m he is not a great runner.
Same example for Collins he is world champion(and bronze in Daegu that lost last metres with Dix) in 100m and what?

Gatlin and Gay are a lot of better runners in 100m that them.

In 200m Dix is great, it is very sure :wink:
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Re: Walter Dix???

Postby 26mi235 » Sat May 04, 2013 6:02 pm

Lot better === 0.15 in the 100; Dix is within 0.05; they are only a little better, and Dix has repeatedly had the cards when he runs in championship races.
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Re: Walter Dix???

Postby blinger » Sat May 04, 2013 8:14 pm

walter dix will not be a contender in the 100m,he was very fortunate to win medals in the absence of the big guns for eg in 2011 world championships bolt false started, gay injured asafa injured gatlin was still on ban and ryan bailey was not yet ready,fast forward to now this year to make his country's team he will have to beat either gay patton gatlin rodgers bailey and a few young guns,hands down he will make the 200m he is ahead of the rest in this event,and there is no guarantee that if he makes the world championships finals he will medal the game as changed there are new fresh 200m predators apart from bolt and blake, he will be fighting for bronze with weir spearmon ashmeade lemaitre and possibly gay.
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Re: Walter Dix???

Postby sprintdoc » Sat May 04, 2013 8:57 pm

Occidental meet today:

A sluggish Dix runs 10.11 season debut with a 1.0. For comparison a year ago Bailey went 10.01 (0.7) looking very relaxed. Dix has been trying to overcome some injury issues while training with Larry Wade. Perhaps he will round into form but for now he is a shadow of himself from what I saw this afternoon
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Re: Walter Dix???

Postby gktrack » Sat May 04, 2013 9:14 pm

sprintdoc wrote:Occidental meet today:

A sluggish Dix runs 10.11 season debut with a 1.0. For comparison a year ago Bailey went 10.01 (0.7) looking very relaxed. Dix has been trying to overcome some injury issues while training with Larry Wade. Perhaps he will round into form but for now he is a shadow of himself from what I saw this afternoon

Thanks for the post - I couldn't find that result. I was hoping for a bit more, but I'll take a 10.11 after not racing for 10+ months. Did anyone press him at any point in the race?
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Re: Walter Dix???

Postby 26mi235 » Sat May 04, 2013 9:44 pm

The Oxy track is not a premium sprinter's track. Not Gay's 9.86/0.2 but a bit closer than the almost 3-tenths gap it appears to show.
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Re: Walter Dix???

Postby ZELLGADISS » Sun May 05, 2013 1:09 am

It is almost impossible that if Gay and Dix are healthy in trials, Dix can to get place for 100m in Moscow.
If he gets place in the final and gets 4th,5h or 6th place and a possible place for 4x100 in rounds in Moscow(not in the final)will be a big prize for him :lol:

In 200m although he is great we will see.
Rounds in 200 after almost 1 year without run will not be easy.
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Re: Walter Dix???

Postby br » Sun May 05, 2013 7:32 am

http://www.directathletics.com/results/track/27031.html

Men 100m Dash
Finals: Heat #1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8
Finals: Heat #1
Wind: 1
Place Overall Name Year Team Time Score
1 1 Dix, Walter Trojan TC 10.11 -
2 2 Effah, Sam Unattached 10.14 -
3 3 Francis, Samuel Qatar 10.19 -
4 4 Grimes, Mickey AOS 10.26 -
5 6 Hicks, Jaylon SO-2 Academy of Art 10.52 -
6 7 Ware, Jared SR Prime Techniques Steppa's 10.56 -
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Walter Dix Status?

Postby lovetorun » Wed May 22, 2013 8:15 am

Anyone know what's going on with Walter Dix this season? Haven't heard or seen anything about him.

Would love to see him in top form again...and see what he,Gay, Gatlin and Rogers could do in the 4 X 100 relay in Moscow.
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Re: Walter Dix Status?

Postby beebee » Wed May 22, 2013 8:29 am

lovetorun wrote:Anyone know what's going on with Walter Dix this season? Haven't heard or seen anything about him.

Would love to see him in top form again...and see what he,Gay, Gatlin and Rogers could do in the 4 X 100 relay in Moscow.


I'd rather see Dix, Bailey, Gatlin and Gay in Moscow.
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Re: Walter Dix Status?

Postby gktrack » Wed May 22, 2013 9:17 am

There was a previous thread on this labeled "Walter Dix???", but I believe he's only run once this year.
http://www.trackandfieldnews.com/discussion/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=50424
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Re: Walter Dix Status?

Postby bignate88 » Wed May 22, 2013 3:51 pm

According to USATF, he's his own agent. So I would think he'd have some difficulty entering big meets. I don't know....
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Re: Walter Dix Status?

Postby 26mi235 » Wed May 22, 2013 4:08 pm

Medalist have an easier time than others getting in to meets.
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Re: Walter Dix Status?

Postby tandfman » Wed May 22, 2013 4:16 pm

gktrack wrote:There was a previous thread on this labeled "Walter Dix???", but I believe he's only run once this year.
http://www.trackandfieldnews.com/discussion/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=50424

He's actually run twice this season, but that's not unusual for him. In both of his medal seasons (2008 and 2011) he had run only 2 individual outdoor races by this date.

What kind of shape will he be in at the Nationals? I guess we'll find out then.
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