Whatta Weekend! Many changes, several shockers!


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Re: Whatta Weekend! Many changes, several shockers!

Postby batonless relay » Mon Apr 22, 2013 6:19 am

Marlow wrote:
batonless relay wrote:Absolutely Demus should be running at least sub-2:05 but every finalist for the womens 400 should be able to do it as well. 2:05 just isn't an impossible task for someone with sub-51s speed.

Not so fast (pun!).
The track world is rife with athletes who tried to move up to the next distance but couldn't run what they "should" have been able to.

Good point...and I agree; but 2:05 is completely different than 1:57. A 51 second person might move up and run 1:57 if they got everything right; however, a 51 second person moving up SHOULD run 2:05. 2:05 for a 51s person is the equivalent of a 54 for a 23 second person; hard, but very possible if you already have the speed.
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Re: Whatta Weekend! Many changes, several shockers!

Postby aaronk » Mon Apr 22, 2013 6:54 am

Hey guys and gals.....this thread was SUPPOSED to be about the great forward leap made in our T&F world over this past weekend......and to give some examples.....

NOT about Lashinda Demus's 800 potential, nor about Marita Koch or....Ben Johnson :shock: !!
Though I should probably blame myself for starting it....by saying that Demus's 2:08 at Mt SAC was MUCH slower than what I think her potential is in the 800.

But the same could be said about Morgan Uceny's 2:05.50 or Carmelita Jeter's 11.68 (or whatever she ran!).
They too can obviously go a LOT faster!!
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Re: Whatta Weekend! Many changes, several shockers!

Postby CookyMonzta » Mon Apr 22, 2013 2:03 pm

aaronk wrote:Hey guys and gals.....this thread was SUPPOSED to be about the great forward leap made in our T&F world over this past weekend......and to give some examples.....

NOT about Lashinda Demus's 800 potential, nor about Marita Koch or....Ben Johnson :shock: !!
Though I should probably blame myself for starting it....by saying that Demus's 2:08 at Mt SAC was MUCH slower than what I think her potential is in the 800.

But the same could be said about Morgan Uceny's 2:05.50 or Carmelita Jeter's 11.68 (or whatever she ran!).
They too can obviously go a LOT faster!!

And just in case some of you are still looking for an athlete to use as a measuring stick for a sprinter's potential in the 800, why has no one mentioned Jearl Miles-Clark? She started experimenting with the 800 in 1995 (when last I checked), but she didn't give it serious consideration until 1997, as she ended that year with an AR 1:56.78. Her PRs are 23.03 (?), 49.40 (1997) and 1:56.40 (1999). She ran 1:57.27 for 6th at Athens 2004, a month from her 38th birthday. She was 2 months from her 31st birthday when she ran her 400 PR.
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Re: Whatta Weekend! Many changes, several shockers!

Postby DoubleRBar » Mon Apr 22, 2013 2:33 pm

I was at the Mt. SAC Relays this past weekend and was very impressed with two high schoolers. One was Courtney Corrin who won the high school long jump (girls) at 20' 10" and Randall Cunningham, who won the boys high jump at 7' 3".

Both athletes aren't even in their senior year of high school. Randall is a junior and Courtney is a ninth grader. I saw both of them win at Arcadia earlier this month. Both athletes look very polished, very smooth, and on their way to greatness (I hope).

Anyone know much about Harvard/Weslake School in Southern California? That's where Courtney goes to high school. They have had some pretty good track and field athletes. I know it is a private school in the San Fernando Valley (Studio City/North Hollywood?).
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Re: Whatta Weekend! Many changes, several shockers!

Postby Marlow » Mon Apr 22, 2013 3:20 pm

DoubleRBar wrote:Randall Cunningham, who won the boys high jump at 7' 3".

Former Eagle QB has quite the brood. The baby sister, a freshman, has already jumped 5-10! :shock:
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Re: Whatta Weekend! Many changes, several shockers!

Postby gktrack » Mon Apr 22, 2013 7:16 pm

DoubleRBar wrote:Anyone know much about Harvard/Weslake School in Southern California? That's where Courtney goes to high school. They have had some pretty good track and field athletes. I know it is a private school in the San Fernando Valley (Studio City/North Hollywood?).

Great program, great coaches, so she's in good hands... You'll recognize a few of the coaches there: Oly gold medalists and Joanna Hayes and Felix Sanchez, and Quincy Watts was there for a while as well.
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Re: Whatta Weekend! Many changes, several shockers!

Postby gktrack » Mon Apr 22, 2013 7:26 pm

Re: all the Demus talk...
She holds H.S. and US Junior/Senior records, and has been the best 400H hurdler in the world since maternity leave. For those same last few years she has taken a weekend trip in late-March and runs in a small meet in San Diego… she runs an even “slower” mid-2:10, each time… then proceeds to go on to win WC gold and Oly silver.
So, in mid-April she wakes up and feeds the kids breakfast, drives a half-hour to Mt. SAC and runs a 2:08, when I believe her “PR” (if you want to call it that) from May 2012 is 2:07.49. With her track record, I’ll take her 2:08 in a heartbeat… and even more so given she has a WC bye, is likely in heavy training mode, and is properly peaking for Moscow. Maybe some can run better 800’s, others not, it doesn’t matter… because whatever Lashinda is doing seems to be working just fine.
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Re: Whatta Weekend! Many changes, several shockers!

Postby Master Po » Mon Apr 22, 2013 7:51 pm

^well said.^
:)
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Re: Whatta Weekend! Many changes, several shockers!

Postby olorin » Mon Apr 22, 2013 9:47 pm

Here is the world (and US) leading at the same time (23/04) last year:
Men:
100: blake 9.90, Sallam (9.98)
200: Spearmon 19.95
400: Rooney (GBR) 44.92, Wariner 44.96
800: Rudisha 1:44.33, Solomon 1:45.83
1500: Torrence 3:35.66
5000: Birmingham (AUS) 13:15.57, True 13:26.56
10000: Mathathi (JPN) 27:35.16, ???
110h: Oliver 13.17
400h: Jackson 48:20
HJ: Robertson 2.32
PV: Otto (GER) 5.82, Walker 5.72
LJ: Mokoena 8.29, Claye 8.25
TJ: Hernandez (CUB) 17.49, Wilson 17.07
SP: Hoffa 21.73
DT: Okoye (GBR) 66.67, Winger 65.48
HT: Krivitskiy (BLR) 79.37, Kruger 75.46
JT: Makarov (RUS) 83.39, Glover 81.31
Dec: Cortzen (RSA) 8244, Murphy 8067
Women:
100: Duncan 11.05
200: Jeter 22.31
400: SRR 50.18
800: Semenya 1:59.58, Beckwith 2:00.34
1500: Kipyego (KEN) 4:08.59, ???
5000: Huddle: 15.15.91
10000: Niiya (JPN) 31:28.26
100h: Pearson 12:49, Manning 12.68
400h: Brown 54.88
HJ: Lowe 2:00
PV: Boyd 4.76, Viuf 4.45
LJ: Reese 7.12
TJ: Alcantara (CUB) 14.41, ???
SP: Adams (NZL) 20.67, Camarena- Williams 19.82
DT: Okoye (GBR) 66.67, Winger 65.48
HT: Muller, 68.89, ???
JT: Ratej (SLO) 65.24, Borman 59.42
Hep: Day 6337
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Re: Whatta Weekend! Many changes, several shockers!

Postby gktrack » Mon Apr 22, 2013 9:56 pm

olorin - great summary... with no words, you put everything into perspective.
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Re: Whatta Weekend! Many changes, several shockers!

Postby gh » Sun May 12, 2013 7:40 am

gktrack wrote:Re: all the Demus talk...
She holds H.S. and US Junior/Senior records, and has been the best 400H hurdler in the world since maternity leave. For those same last few years she has taken a weekend trip in late-March and runs in a small meet in San Diego… she runs an even “slower” mid-2:10, each time… then proceeds to go on to win WC gold and Oly silver.
So, in mid-April she wakes up and feeds the kids breakfast, drives a half-hour to Mt. SAC and runs a 2:08, when I believe her “PR” (if you want to call it that) from May 2012 is 2:07.49. With her track record, I’ll take her 2:08 in a heartbeat… and even more so given she has a WC bye, is likely in heavy training mode, and is properly peaking for Moscow. Maybe some can run better 800’s, others not, it doesn’t matter… because whatever Lashinda is doing seems to be working just fine.


Demus PRed in the 100 yesterday at Azusa: 11.61 (maybe first 100 ever?) (nah, everybody has a 100 somewhere in their past, right?)
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