26mi235 wrote:Talking about the facts of a case are not so much grounds for being banned. Casting unverified suspicion is frowned on. Saying the someone did not get a ban because of a technicality is a matter involving a fact. Maybe the 'fact' is inaccurate (my vague recollection is that it is accurate, but I am not sure and I am not making a claim to it), which is a fact to be addressed (maybe the person that thinks that is not correct is wrong). gh's ire can be raised by a succession of idiocy etc., but I think that you will find him rather consistent in what is unacceptable. [I am having some difficulty in understanding exactly what the prior two posters think is the problem.]
His quote below is the part that is troubling and it has no place on this message board since it is false and slanderous.
It doesn't help a coach was busted last year with emails being sent to Ottey's coach on how to beat drug tests.
jamboy wrote:Well,she wasn't banned for anything Lets get back to the Jamaica Invitational discussion.
She was banned, but the ban was overturned on a technicality, so step a little lightly on this topic in the future rather than indicate that anyone that cites the material is guilty of throwing unverified aspersions on the athlete should be banned from the board.
Just go read this; avoiding a positive reading from both the A and B samples only because
"the retesting was not completed in the allotted time"
Marion Jones is currently in Jamaica. She is one of the presenters at the "Business of Sport" seminar being held at the Jamaica Pegasus Hotel which is the same hotel where all the athletes are staying.
I am sure she will find some time to hop on over to the national stadium later to watch the meet.
VC will have the fast starting Ahoure to her outside.
Lane Bib Name Country 1 843 Trisha Ann Hawthorne JAM 2 835 Schillonie Calvert JAM 3 948 Allyson Felix USA 4 936 Kelly Ann Baptiste TRI 5 836 Veronica Campbell-Brown JAM 6 828 Murielle Ahouré CIV 7 854 Carrie Russel JAM 8 834 Sherri Ann Brooks JAM
I notice with a great deal of contempt and disgust the hypocrisy of GH the moderator. He is always quick to ban people or give a stern warning whenever remarks are made about questionable American athletes and drugs but I guess he has a double standard if its Jamaican athlete whose reputation and legacy is been attacked. SMH
I think when people throw round names with no evidence he is consistent in shutting down the topics. Context can mean a lot, I stuck pretty much to the facts of Ottey's suspicious evidence, I've not outright stated anybody is a drug cheat there. However I do think GH, like all of us have biases. He doesn't seem to get precious about US track and field athletes but it only natural, like mumps and flumpys unnatural and double standard defensiveness and praise for Ottey while they routinely throw quite unsubstantiated accusations around.
I'm British and while I think our brilliant cycling team is clean, I do find that where they may get criticism for not being transparent and dominating perhaps the dirtiest sport in the world a lot of British cycling fans are almost not willing to discuss in any way that UK Cycling/Team Sky could possibly be doping or deserve criticism for making themselves look dodgy by for one example blatently not being honest and being evasive about the employment of a certain dodgy doctor they have recently released. Likewise US athletes get bitchy when you point out how easily american athletes excuses are accepted for light bans. To non-americans the likes of Vessey, Carl Lewis etc stinks to high heaven, to an american it looks like a mistake anybody could make and yet would be livid if Russian athletes where shown the same leniency. It's only natural but it is also frustration when an authority intervenes with those biases showing.