Yohan Blake, injured?


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Re: Yohan Blake, injured?

Postby jamboy » Sun Apr 21, 2013 8:44 pm

JumboElliott wrote:Especially in a championship year.


For me a major injury would be a ruptured achilles tendon or hamstring injury which surgery might be required and would result him being out for the rest of the year.

MRI does not suggest that so hopefully, he would be back in somewhat good form in a few weeks.
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Re: Yohan Blake, injured?

Postby JumboElliott » Mon Apr 22, 2013 7:25 am

Good to know that a broken leg isn't a major injury then, because it might not require surgery.
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Re: Yohan Blake, injured?

Postby jamboy » Mon Apr 22, 2013 7:57 am

JumboElliott wrote:Good to know that a broken leg isn't a major injury then, because it might not require surgery.


Stop being silly. I was just giving an example of what would be considered major.

Of course a broken leg would be considered major. My example was generic and obviously it flew right over your head :D
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Re: Yohan Blake, injured?

Postby eldanielfire » Mon Apr 22, 2013 8:49 am

jamboy wrote:
JumboElliott wrote:Good to know that a broken leg isn't a major injury then, because it might not require surgery.


Stop being silly. I was just giving an example of what would be considered major.

Of course a broken leg would be considered major. My example was generic and obviously it flew right over your head :D


Or his point flew over yours.....
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Re: Yohan Blake, injured?

Postby jamboy » Mon Apr 22, 2013 8:53 am

eldanielfire wrote:
jamboy wrote:
JumboElliott wrote:Good to know that a broken leg isn't a major injury then, because it might not require surgery.


Stop being silly. I was just giving an example of what would be considered major.

Of course a broken leg would be considered major. My example was generic and obviously it flew right over your head :D


Or his point flew over yours.....


And your being way too silly now :D
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Re: Yohan Blake, injured?

Postby t_monk » Mon Apr 22, 2013 9:32 am

Losing 6 - 8 weeks of training is serious business. Blake was always a bit frail where injuries are concerned. He was injured right out of high school and didn't really get fully sorted out until around 2010/2011. I hope this isn't the start of something reoccurring, Mills has done a really good job of managing Usain's injuries so I don't think there should be much difference with Blake.
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Re: Yohan Blake, injured?

Postby Jackaloupe » Mon Apr 22, 2013 9:39 am

Losing 6 - 8 weeks of training is serious business

Has anyone said that, or even suggested it? Speculation here centered on which actual Meets Blake would give a pass--so to speak.

BTW, the FP Article on Asafa Powell contains the same vague language: first little concern, then "more serious than first thought", but still not even hampering Training (that much).

I'd fully expect Blake's been back in training for some time now (vague enough?).
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Re: Yohan Blake, injured?

Postby batonless relay » Mon Apr 22, 2013 9:54 am

t_monk wrote:Losing 6 - 8 weeks of training is serious business. Blake was always a bit frail where injuries are concerned. He was injured right out of high school and didn't really get fully sorted out until around 2010/2011. I hope this isn't the start of something reoccurring, Mills has done a really good job of managing Usain's injuries so I don't think there should be much difference with Blake.

I'm unsure if it has anything to do with "frailty", and it may have less to do with "managing" by Mills (now or in the past); I think it has to do with intensity. Yes, it's fun to watch sub-9.80/sub-19.40 runs but almost every athlete who has been there is treated to injuries of some kind shortly after (see Powell, A; Gay,T; Johnson, M...).
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Re: Yohan Blake, injured?

Postby t_monk » Mon Apr 22, 2013 10:10 am

batonless relay wrote:
t_monk wrote:Losing 6 - 8 weeks of training is serious business. Blake was always a bit frail where injuries are concerned. He was injured right out of high school and didn't really get fully sorted out until around 2010/2011. I hope this isn't the start of something reoccurring, Mills has done a really good job of managing Usain's injuries so I don't think there should be much difference with Blake.

I'm unsure if it has anything to do with "frailty", and it may have less to do with "managing" by Mills (now or in the past); I think it has to do with intensity. Yes, it's fun to watch sub-9.80/sub-19.40 runs but almost every athlete who has been there is treated to injuries of some kind shortly after (see Powell, A; Gay,T; Johnson, M...).


All throughout HS Champs and during his transition he had injury issues. He probably isn't as injury prone as say Sherone Simpson, Schelonie Calvert or Rose-Marie Whyte but he still is quite susceptible to injuries.
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Re: Yohan Blake, injured?

Postby 26mi235 » Mon Apr 22, 2013 11:57 am

batonless relay wrote:I'm unsure if it has anything to do with "frailty", and it may have less to do with "managing" by Mills (now or in the past); I think it has to do with intensity. Yes, it's fun to watch sub-9.80/sub-19.40 runs but almost every athlete who has been there is treated to injuries of some kind shortly after (see Powell, A; Gay,T; Johnson, M...).


I was going to write something similar until I saw your post which not only said it before I got to it but said it better (and with more authority).

I have a question. Bolt certainly upped the ante, where 9.7 went from WR target to the level necessary to be on the podium with little chance to be on top without extenuating circumstances (e.g., Bolt FS). Has the higher target level resulted in a higher rate of injury for the top sprinters? As a second question, is Blake more prone to injury because he is so strong (e.g., he is not referred to as The Beast for no reason). Of course, others who are not identifiable as extremely strong have also had injury problems trying to keep up -- Gay and Dix notable among them.
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Re: Yohan Blake, injured?

Postby batonless relay » Mon Apr 22, 2013 12:21 pm

26mi235 wrote:I was going to write something similar until I saw your post which not only said it before I got to it but said it better (and with more authority).

I have a question. Bolt certainly upped the ante, where 9.7 went from WR target to the level necessary to be on the podium with little chance to be on top without extenuating circumstances (e.g., Bolt FS). Has the higher target level resulted in a higher rate of injury for the top sprinters? As a second question, is Blake more prone to injury because he is so strong (e.g., he is not referred to as The Beast for no reason). Of course, others who are not identifiable as extremely strong have also had injury problems trying to keep up -- Gay and Dix notable among them.

I can't show in quantifiable terms that there are more injuries, but I think at that level (sub-9.80), whatever inefficiencies that you may have in your technique/gait, only lends to breaking your body down (think of a driving on a flat tire: at very slow speeds it's drivable, but as you speed up it becomes nearly impossible to handle). Most people thought that Dix would tear himself apart before he went faster if he didn't change his technique and last year while making the changes... It is believed by many that Asafa Powell's inefficiencies ultimately led to his frequent injuries and we could say the same for Tyson Gay (Gay admitted that he was training for sub-9.70 when he was injured). And, Nesta Carter seems to have been snake bitten (but he was never the most durable). Even though I can't actually say the speed itself is responsible, the body can only take so much.
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