The 119th Running of The Penn Relays


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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby iain » Mon Apr 22, 2013 7:26 am

aaronk wrote:Have the line-ups for the men's 4 X 800 and the DMR been chosen yet?
I'm sure it won't happen, but wouldn't it be great if the following USA teams came to pass (pun intended! :D )?

4 X 800

Jock, Wheating, Symmonds, Solomon.

A sub-7:00 would be possible there!!

DMR (1200, 400, 800, 1600)

Lagat, Wariner, Solomon, Manzano

A sub-9:10 is possible there.
(2:50, 44, 1:44, 3:51=9:09!!)


The 4x800m is for women
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby gktrack » Mon Apr 22, 2013 9:34 am

dj wrote:
gktrack wrote:Looks like J. Gatlin, R. Bailey, D. Patton expected to be at Penn... all entered in the open 100...
http://pennrelaysonline.com/Results/results.aspx?en=480


Don't expect that to be the case. There are always changes in that race depending on who does and does not run in the USA/World 4x100.

If these three run on either of the two USA teams in the 4x100 (final line-ups not determined until after Friday practice), I'd be surprised if they ran the 100.

Agree - just glad to see some big 100 names for the US at Penn and eventually hoping they will be on on the relays. I can't remember the last time I saw the USA's 100 biggies in an individual event at Penn, never paid much attention to that event I guess.
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby JumboElliott » Mon Apr 22, 2013 9:44 am

Any American who runs a distance a mile or lower for Nike is likely to be there.
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby gktrack » Mon Apr 22, 2013 10:11 am

JumboElliott wrote:Any American who runs a distance a mile or lower for Nike is likely to be there.

Didn't USA sweep the USA vs. World relay events last year? I hope you're correct Jumbo that the big names will be there for the US (though maybe not Jeter now)...

Not sure what the time window is for WC's, but don't some of these other nations use Penn to get their A qualifier out of the way ( e.g. Grenada ran on their own last year)? Curious to see who's on the Caribbean team besides K. James.
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby Blues » Mon Apr 22, 2013 10:48 am

gktrack wrote:
JumboElliott wrote:Any American who runs a distance a mile or lower for Nike is likely to be there.

Didn't USA sweep the USA vs. World relay events last year? I hope you're correct Jumbo that the big names will be there for the US (though maybe not Jeter now)...

Not sure what the time window is for WC's, but don't some of these other nations use Penn to get their A qualifier out of the way ( e.g. Grenada ran on their own last year)? Curious to see who's on the Caribbean team besides K. James.


Supposedly the entire US gold medal women's 4x100 team from London will be running at Penn. Hopefully Carmelita will still be running. She stated that she's going to practice as usual today, and that it was just a slight cramp on the weekend, so at least at this time there's no indication of a withdrawal.

As far as the men's 4x4 goes, I've seen recent articles that state that Felix Sanchez and Lalonde Gordon will be two of the other members on the Caribbean All Star 4x4 team with Kirani James. There's a team from Trinidad and Tobago on the start list though, so I don't know if Gordon will still run with James and Sanchez on the All Star team if there's a T&T team... (The article I saw that stated that Gordon would be running on the same team as James was from 2 weeks ago in a TrackAlerts article.)
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby aaronk » Mon Apr 22, 2013 11:16 am

Blues wrote:
gktrack wrote:
JumboElliott wrote:Any American who runs a distance a mile or lower for Nike is likely to be there.

Didn't USA sweep the USA vs. World relay events last year? I hope you're correct Jumbo that the big names will be there for the US (though maybe not Jeter now)...

Not sure what the time window is for WC's, but don't some of these other nations use Penn to get their A qualifier out of the way ( e.g. Grenada ran on their own last year)? Curious to see who's on the Caribbean team besides K. James.


Supposedly the entire US gold medal women's 4x100 team from London will be running at Penn. Hopefully Carmelita will still be running. She stated that she's going to practice as usual today, and that it was just a slight cramp on the weekend, so at least at this time there's no indication of a withdrawal.

As far as the men's 4x4 goes, I've seen recent articles that state that Felix Sanchez and Lalonde Gordon will be two of the other members on the Caribbean All Star 4x4 team with Kirani James. There's a team from Trinidad and Tobago on the start list though, so I don't know if Gordon will still run with James and Sanchez on the All Star team if there's a T&T team... (The article I saw that stated that Gordon would be running on the same team as James was from 2 weeks ago in a TrackAlerts article.)


Felix Sanchez was announced as entered at Drake.
Not sure what the two schedules are like (Penn and Drake), but maybe he's intending to run both!!
It could be done if his events at each are on different days!
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby Grasshopper » Mon Apr 22, 2013 11:33 am

jamboy wrote:
GDAWG wrote:Since Usain Bolt won't be at the Penn Relays, the biggest non American star there will probably be Kirani James.



The fastest woman in the world and two time Olympic 100m champion Shelly Ann Fraser will be there.

Considering her recent cramp/injury at Mt. SAC, I highly doubt that Jeter will be there. But that's great to hear that SAF will be.
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby t_monk » Mon Apr 22, 2013 11:34 am

Grasshopper wrote:
jamboy wrote:
GDAWG wrote:Since Usain Bolt won't be at the Penn Relays, the biggest non American star there will probably be Kirani James.



The fastest woman in the world and two time Olympic 100m champion Shelly Ann Fraser will be there.

Considering her recent cramp/injury at Mt. SAC, I highly doubt that Jeter will be there. But that's great to hear that SAF will be.


I would be ill advised if she did appear....
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby az2004 » Mon Apr 22, 2013 12:10 pm

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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby az2004 » Mon Apr 22, 2013 12:12 pm

hs boys 4X1 preview at penn

http://pennrelaysonline.com/Results/results.aspx?en=466

2 under 40
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby az2004 » Mon Apr 22, 2013 12:14 pm

4X8

hs boys cententiall from Nevada #1 seed

http://pennrelaysonline.com/Results/results.aspx?en=485
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby az2004 » Mon Apr 22, 2013 12:15 pm

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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby az2004 » Mon Apr 22, 2013 12:18 pm

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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby az2004 » Mon Apr 22, 2013 12:20 pm

4X1

http://pennrelaysonline.com/Results/results.aspx?en=343

long beach poly versus Jamaicans hsg
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby Blues » Mon Apr 22, 2013 12:20 pm

aaronk wrote:
Felix Sanchez was announced as entered at Drake.
Not sure what the two schedules are like (Penn and Drake), but maybe he's intending to run both!!
It could be done if his events at each are on different days!


Here's the USATF press release from 4/18, which is where I read about Sanchez running at Penn:

http://www.usatf.org/News/Outdoor-USATF ... ith-U.aspx

I guess they could be wrong though, or else he could be traveling from Iowa. According to the Drake website, Lalonde Gordon is also entered at Drake in the 400. The men's 400h and 400 at Drake are scheduled for Friday night at 6:58pm and 7:45pm respectively, so running a 4x4 in Philly the next afternoon at 2:52pm is at least possible...
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby az2004 » Mon Apr 22, 2013 12:23 pm

4X800


Wisconsin team vertsus Jamaica


nena rocketes

http://pennrelaysonline.com/Results/results.aspx?en=337
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby az2004 » Mon Apr 22, 2013 12:26 pm

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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby gktrack » Mon Apr 22, 2013 12:40 pm

az2004 - These are great previews... didn't realize Vere's ridiculously good HS G4x4 team would be without their star runner and that a prep can only run at Penn 4 years... good stuff.
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby gh » Mon Apr 22, 2013 2:03 pm

t_monk wrote:
Grasshopper wrote:
jamboy wrote:
GDAWG wrote:Since Usain Bolt won't be at the Penn Relays, the biggest non American star there will probably be Kirani James.



The fastest woman in the world and two time Olympic 100m champion Shelly Ann Fraser will be there.

Considering her recent cramp/injury at Mt. SAC, I highly doubt that Jeter will be there. But that's great to hear that SAF will be.


I would be ill advised if she did appear....


she's now out of Penn and the Doha DL meet. (see front page)
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby DCSIGMA » Mon Apr 22, 2013 2:16 pm

damn Jeter is out...:(
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby CookyMonzta » Mon Apr 22, 2013 2:41 pm

az2004 wrote:http://pennrelaysonline.com/Results/results.aspx?en=362


kadecia baird verus jamaicans 4X4 hs g

I hope her hammy is okay. She was grabbing it after her 23.84 tuneup at the New York Relays. She ran down the New Rochelle anchor in the 4x1 earlier in the meet (47.81). It was cold out there at Icahn Stadium. We can't lose the best chance in a long time to see a HS girl go 49.x later this spring or early-summer, relay or individual (Demus once ran 50.4 on a relay).

If Medgar Evers is entered in the 4x1, they could potentially break 46.00 (the NYS record is 46.16). I'm pretty sure they're capable of breaking 47.00.

If she's anchoring the 4x4, she'll probably dip under 52.0 if she has to chase Jamaica and Columbia (NJ). For some reason, I think she sandbagged that 54.28 at the Carifta Games, to save everything for Penn.
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby JumboElliott » Mon Apr 22, 2013 2:56 pm


D'Agostino might have ten seconds to make up on the big guns in the DMR when she's handed the baton.
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby DCSIGMA » Mon Apr 22, 2013 3:12 pm

The fastest woman in the world and two time Olympic 100m champion Shelly Ann Fraser will be there.[/quote]
Considering her recent cramp/injury at Mt. SAC, I highly doubt that Jeter will be there. But that's great to hear that SAF will be.[/quote]

I would be ill advised if she did appear....[/quote]

she's now out of Penn and the Doha DL meet. (see front page)[/quote]
Jeter tweeted said that is NOT true she will be at Penns and was never entered in Doha...so the story on the front page is incorrect
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby DCSIGMA » Mon Apr 22, 2013 3:16 pm

Looks like it will be some nice weather I hope it warms up more..but weather for penns is sooo iffy and hit or miss..one year it may be cold and rainy the next year u sweating like a HO in church...
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby Blues » Mon Apr 22, 2013 5:04 pm

DCSIGMA wrote:Jeter tweeted said that is NOT true she will be at Penns and was never entered in Doha...so the story on the front page is incorrect


Here's a link to the twitter conversation that mentions Penn.. I hope she'll be running in Philly, but is there a possibility that she didn't know that her coach had scratched her from Penn yet?

https://twitter.com/CarmelitaJeter/stat ... 3636357120
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby Mighty Favog » Mon Apr 22, 2013 5:29 pm

JumboElliott wrote:

D'Agostino might have ten seconds to make up on the big guns in the DMR when she's handed the baton.

Preview: "The Wolverines ran the season’s fastest time indoors, 10:56.46, to win the NCAA, anchored by Amanda Eccleston, an unheralded senior from Adrian, Mich., whose 1,500 best is a modest 4:22."
It's very, very difficult to be up on everything, so I'm not criticizing Jack Pfeifer when I point out that Eccleston was the D-2 national athlete of the year in 2012 at Hillsdale, where she ran 4:19. It's even harder to be up on that because Mrs. Eccleston was then known as Ms. Putt.
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby aaronk » Mon Apr 22, 2013 5:46 pm

JumboElliott wrote:

D'Agostino might have ten seconds to make up on the big guns in the DMR when she's handed the baton.


Don't know how fast Dartmouth's other 3 runners are on a DMR.

But if the 1200 girl runs 3:25, the 400 girl a 54, and the 800 woman a 2:05, Abbey would have to run a 4:24 to get the record.
She ran close to 4:30 indoors....so I'm guessing she COULD run a 4:25 or so in a relay....with the Collegiate Record on the line!!
I'd give them a much better chance at going sub-11:00 than getting a 10:48.
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby JumboElliott » Mon Apr 22, 2013 5:59 pm

Lindsay Walsh, 2:14 and 4:28
Megan Krumpoch, 55.3
Caroline Buck, 2:10

She'll need to break 4:20 for her team to come close to the (world) record.
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby dj » Mon Apr 22, 2013 7:22 pm

Dartmouth is a scratch in the wDMR.
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby az2004 » Tue Apr 23, 2013 4:53 am

the college womens dmr looks deep. who does Stanford have in it

looks like Oregon is not entered

Michigan might be my favorite, although villanova is tough
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby JumboElliott » Tue Apr 23, 2013 10:07 am

Michigan is no longer on the start list of the DMR. Looks like we're headed for a slow race with a sprint finish.
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby aaronk » Tue Apr 23, 2013 10:10 am

As Dartmouth has dropped from the DMR....will Abbey run anything else at Penn?
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby az2004 » Tue Apr 23, 2013 12:32 pm

lloks like villannoa or Georgetown to me

although Stanford is a a darkhorse
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby Dutra5 » Tue Apr 23, 2013 1:00 pm

aaronk wrote:As Dartmouth has dropped from the DMR....will Abbey run anything else at Penn?


Dartmouth is not listed amongst the competing schools according to the PR website.
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby Blues » Tue Apr 23, 2013 1:58 pm

Updated relay pool information for Penn Relays USA vs World (actual relay lineups will be released Friday):

http://www.thepennrelays.com/ViewArticl ... =207392060

And the article also states that Jeter is out.
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby aaronk » Tue Apr 23, 2013 3:41 pm

Blues wrote:Updated relay pool information for Penn Relays USA vs World (actual relay lineups will be released Friday):

http://www.thepennrelays.com/ViewArticl ... =207392060

And the article also states that Jeter is out.


That 4 X 800 USA squad looks unbeatable....albeit not knowing what kind of team Russia will bring in.
One thing's for sure: That "WR" is GONE!!
If all those sub-2:00 women can't run better than an average 2:04.48, I'd be shocked!!
But who should run lead-off??
I'd go with Montano.
She's the most aggressive runner in the pack.....always willing to take it out from the gun.
Get a 1:57 or 158 out of her, and the others might get inspired to try for sub-2:00's also, thus guaranteeing a sub-8:00 time.

As for the DMR, where's the USA 400 guy?
They're all milers/800 types. Will Sowinski or Symmonds serve as the "400" person?
Why can't Wariner or Merritt or McQuay et al run that leg??
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby 26mi235 » Tue Apr 23, 2013 4:49 pm

The 600 AR should be good for a 400, don't you think, after all, you are a proponent of the 400/800 conversion/predictions?
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby JumboElliott » Tue Apr 23, 2013 5:37 pm

It will be someone like David Neville or Greg Nixon running the 400 leg.
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby jazzcyclist » Tue Apr 23, 2013 7:41 pm

Unfortunately, I'm going to miss Penn this year, the first I've missed since 2007. If someone ever invents a device that will allow you to be in two places at one time, I would defintely buy one. It's so wrong that the Drake Relays, the Penn Relays and the opening weekend of the New Orleans Jazz Fest take place on the same weekend.
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Re: The 119th Running of The Penn Relays

Postby jamboy » Tue Apr 23, 2013 7:45 pm

The Penn Relays will be live on NBC this Saturday afternoon beginnin at 1pm ET
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