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Melaine Walker leaves MVP track club for Racers!!!

Postby jamal00005 » Fri Apr 05, 2013 5:04 pm

Olympic and World 400m hurdles gold medallist, Melaine Walker, is leaving the MVP Track Club and heading to the Glen Mills-coached Racers Track Club.

Sources close to both the athletes and Racers say Walker and the University of the West Indies-based club are close to an agreement which will see her ending her long-time relationship with MVP head coach Stephen Francis.

Contacted this afternoon coach Mills, declined comment.

Meanwhile, Walker’s manager, her brother, Christopher Walker, reserved comment only saying he will speak at the right time.

The relationship between Walker and Francis has deteriorated in recent months.

Walker has long wanted to compete in the 100m hurdles but was prevented from doing so and it is believed that may have contributed to her decision to quit MVP.
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Postby shivfan » Sat Apr 06, 2013 12:55 am

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Postby drerhys » Fri Apr 12, 2013 6:38 am

She will now be concentrating on the 100m hurdles.
Here is a link to her interview with TVJ.

http://televisionjamaica.com/Programmes ... deos/25585
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Postby JumboElliott » Fri Apr 12, 2013 7:38 am

The coach is right here. What would possess her to do such a thing? Especially since the short hurdles are a much more competitive event.
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Postby ldnbloke » Fri Apr 12, 2013 9:30 am

JumboElliott wrote:The coach is right here. What would possess her to do such a thing? Especially since the short hurdles are a much more competitive event.


It reads like a comedy line (or April fool joke).
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Postby 18.99s » Fri Apr 12, 2013 10:27 am

JumboElliott wrote:The coach is right here. What would possess her to do such a thing? Especially since the short hurdles are a much more competitive event.


Looks like she's had a burning desire to run the 100mh ever since her 12.75 in 2006, and it's not going to go away until she tries it and fails.
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Postby t_monk » Fri Apr 12, 2013 5:36 pm

Unless she is ready to go 12.3x she won't get anything more than bronze.
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Postby 18.99s » Fri Apr 12, 2013 7:09 pm

Maybe she'll be happy with a bronze. Is there anybody who has ever medaled in both the 100mh and 400mh at the Olympics or World Championships (not necessarily in the same year)?

But whatever her goals or expectations are, it's clear that she's not going to be happy if she doesn't at least give the 100mh a serious try.
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Postby eldanielfire » Sat Apr 13, 2013 1:04 am

18.99s wrote:
JumboElliott wrote:The coach is right here. What would possess her to do such a thing? Especially since the short hurdles are a much more competitive event.


Looks like she's had a burning desire to run the 100mh ever since her 12.75 in 2006, and it's not going to go away until she tries it and fails.


Well she isn't having much success in the 400mH right now and that appears to have developed more depth in quality for a long time, arguably the full 400mH final right now has a stronger line-up than the 110mH final. As she isn't winning anything and has won the golds already why not try something new?
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Postby shivfan » Sat Apr 13, 2013 11:21 pm

I agree...what's wrong with letting her try the 100m hurdles for a season, if only for her to get it out of her system?
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Postby t_monk » Sun Apr 14, 2013 4:12 am

eldanielfire wrote:Well she isn't having much success in the 400mH right now and that appears to have developed more depth in quality for a long time, arguably the full 400mH final right now has a stronger line-up than the 110mH final. As she isn't winning anything and has won the golds already why not try something new?


You gotta be joking right?
100mH: You had over 15 athletes running faster than 12.70, including 2 consistently running in the 12.3x range and one firmly in 12.5low to sub-12.5x range.
400mH: Demus, Hejonva, Antyukh, Spencer and Walker makes up the premier 400mH. You only had a grand total of 2 going sub-53 and less than 10 sub-54, less than 5 sub-53.50. The depth in the 400mH is woefully inadequate compared to the 100mH even if you include the young guns.

In terms of her success in the 400mH, last year she ended the season ranked 6th overall in the event and this is with her, as she put it, without having any fire. Her performance in the event last year was mostly down to her simply not 'wanting it' and still she ended with the 5th fastest time of the year.

I like MW I really do, she is seen as a fighter in my eyes, but this is a girl that went within 0.08 of the current World Record and looked all that likely to break it if she had one more full, unhampered season at the event. The only record she doesn't have is the World Record as she currently holds both Championships Records at the World Championships and the Olympic Games. I can understand being a bit.... displeased and.... confused at her decision.

It is her life though and as she said she is a sprinter at heart but personally I think it's kinda ridiculous. I know there are the Jeters, the Otteys, the Hayes, the BFH that all seem to find that special extra gear late in their career but these ladies are the exception not the norm... and to do it in such a highly technical event not being all that great a technician themselves (from my vantage point) even worse concerns me.

Then to add fuel to the fire she goes to a camp known almost solely for YOUNG MALE 100/200M SPECIALISTS and it's not for a lack of trying. I respect Glen Mills highly as a coach but I have yet to see a hurdler or a female athlete really making as great an impression as I would expect. And he does have the talent base without a doubt.

I don't know.... *sighs* ....I wish her the best but I can't help but think this is a mistake.... :?
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Postby 18.99s » Sun Apr 14, 2013 4:40 am

If her heart's just not into the 400mh anymore, she's probably not going to return to medal-winning form in that event anyway.

Having a 12.75 PB, Walker switching to the 100mh isn't as far-fetched a move as it was for Privalova switching to the 400mh.
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Postby eldanielfire » Sun Apr 14, 2013 4:47 am

t_monk wrote:
You gotta be joking right?
100mH: You had over 15 athletes running faster than 12.70, including 2 consistently running in the 12.3x range and one firmly in 12.5low to sub-12.5x range.
400mH: Demus, Hejonva, Antyukh, Spencer and Walker makes up the premier 400mH. You only had a grand total of 2 going sub-53 and less than 10 sub-54, less than 5 sub-53.50. The depth in the 400mH is woefully inadequate compared to the 100mH even if you include the young guns.


That's only true if you equate 12.70 to sub 54 and ignore the injuries. It also ignores the fact the 400m Hurdles is considerably tougher to consistently deliver on.

You forget Perri Shakes Drayton who ran one of the fastest pre-Olympic times last year before getting an injury and is now the European indoor champion, Elidth Child who is European silver, Rosolova who was quite new to the event and is strong and fast and last season was her first and she almost beat Hejonva's national record in an event that rewards practice. There were also a couple of Russian girls last year who had a poor Olympics, the likes of Yaroshchuk and Georganne Moline who are developing quickly into world class hurdlers.




Then to add fuel to the fire she goes to a camp known almost solely for YOUNG MALE 100/200M SPECIALISTS and it's not for a lack of trying. I respect Glen Mills highly as a coach but I have yet to see a hurdler or a female athlete really making as great an impression as I would expect. And he does have the talent base without a doubt.

I don't know.... *sighs* ....I wish her the best but I can't help but think this is a mistake.... :?


I agree that going to Racers is interesting and I've never understood Mills poor track record with women. Has anybody given any kind of reason for it? All I know is that he never married.
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Postby t_monk » Sun Apr 14, 2013 5:13 am

18.99s wrote:If her heart's just not into the 400mh anymore, she's probably not going to return to medal-winning form in that event anyway.

Having a 12.75 PB, Walker switching to the 100mh isn't as far-fetched a move as it was for Privalova switching to the 400mh.


I understand that her heart isn't into it and in such a case I can't fault her too much. It is her life in essence and it doesn't make sense she keeps doing something she doesn't want to especially when time is running out her like this. In either case though it will be a whole bunch of what ifs and I am sure she is ready to face up to the consequence of her grand dream not coming to fruition.

Where her 12.75 PB from 2006 is concerned, I agree it does say she has/had the talent in that event. That being said she hasn't run the event in 'a while' (6 years break it would appear) and so to just get her body back to where it was in such a HIGHLY technical event is going to take some doing. Her body and muscles are conditioned for the longer distance, plus I would guess her hurdling technique over the 100mH will require some amounts of tweaking just to get back to where she was. She can't hope to be 12.7x and expect to get a medal with the talent pool about, that might not even get her in the finals at any Championships or even make the JA team... She is going to need a lot of work and attention to get to the place she herself wants to be (I assume Melanie doesn't just want to be a filler on the circuit but be one of those that people actually talk about).

My concern is that she won't be able to get there given the stage she is currently at in her career as well as where she is currently trying to get it. I don't think she will get the specialized attention she requires.
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Postby t_monk » Sun Apr 14, 2013 5:50 am

I agree that the 400mH is tougher in terms of what it takes out of you physically during the course of the race, but the 100mH is takes more work, practice and perfectionism to be competitive at. Unless you intend to be a true technician over the sticks it doesn't matter how fast you are, you're going to get dusted by the true technicians who essentially has moderate speed but great technique. At this point I have doubts whether Walker has the raw sprint speed or the technique.

Back to depth though... according to the IAAF table 12.70 = 54.43... That's still only 13 athletes achieving that mark in the 400mH as opposed to close the 20 (19 to be exact) on the 100mH part. I don't generally draw for the table but I will utilize it just here. Between up and comers and 'old talent', I would go with the 100mH having more depth everytime.

MW even said it in an interview that the Racers club hurdles program is in essence non existent and that MVP has a better 400m program than them... Unless MW intends to run the 100m/200m outright (and even so I would be concerned seeing how stunted some of the other girls women have been) I don't see the benefit of going there. I guess she wants to stay closer to home (if I were MW I would hunt down Sally Pearson's coach or Dawn Harper's coach and wave my Olympic/World Championships medals infront of them and start begging).
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Postby eldanielfire » Sun Apr 14, 2013 9:27 am

t_monk wrote:I agree that the 400mH is tougher in terms of what it takes out of you physically during the course of the race, but the 100mH is takes more work, practice and perfectionism to be competitive at. Unless you intend to be a true technician over the sticks it doesn't matter how fast you are, you're going to get dusted by the true technicians who essentially has moderate speed but great technique. At this point I have doubts whether Walker has the raw sprint speed or the technique.


The think about Walker is that her hurdling technique is generally terrible. That will leave her screwed for the 100m or able to greatly improve.

I think you undervalue the perfectionism of the 400m, women in particular with short stride length and power find it a monster as many blow it due to screwing up their stride pattern which if you miss time or lose concentration as the 400m lactic hits will ruin your race. The fuck-ups are less dramatic but at elite level more women fuck-up the 400mH over the 100mH.


Back to depth though... according to the IAAF table 12.70 = 54.43... That's still only 13 athletes achieving that mark in the 400mH as opposed to close the 20 (19 to be exact) on the 100mH part. I don't generally draw for the table but I will utilize it just here. Between up and comers and 'old talent', I would go with the 100mH having more depth everytime.


You have completely ignored what I said. I said the final of a 400mH will have more depth of talent IMO, not the overall event. The fact less women can break 54 shows it might well be harder to do.


MW even said it in an interview that the Racers club hurdles program is in essence non existent and that MVP has a better 400m program than them... Unless MW intends to run the 100m/200m outright (and even so I would be concerned seeing how stunted some of the other girls women have been) I don't see the benefit of going there.


The problem with Melaine Walker is that what I have heard of her (and I can't say I know her that well, only what I've seen) is that she comes over as a bit difficult character.

ANyways an interview with Walker on why she left, seems to be politics in the MVP camp and Walker indicates Francis is a git to a number of athletes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GX59dgpTMmY
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Postby toyracer » Tue Apr 16, 2013 9:38 am

Nothing happens in isolation. The writing was on the wall at the Olympics. I doubt this has anything to do with running the shorter event(s); another excuse like "not motivated"... "not motivated" is the result not the cause, and the cause remains unspoken.

Probably not a great career move but sometimes working environment is more important.
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Postby batonless relay » Tue Apr 16, 2013 11:55 am

1. 100h are much more competitive than 400h and it's been that way for at least the last dozen years or so.

2. Walker's PB's are listed at 12.0x and 23.5x...they go back 15 years and I'm guessing she's a bit faster. Plus, she only needs to get to about 11.4/23.0 to be a sub-12.60 hurdler - which is what it takes to be a medallist (BFH won 100h in 2009 with 12.51)

3. Walkers history at UT (UT website)
Melaine Walker ( Outdoor - 2005)
100 Meters (12.01)
Rice Bayou Classic (4/2) ............3rd ...............................12.01!
200 Meters (23.24ww)
Rice Bayou Classic (4/2) ........... 2nd ................................23.99
100-Meter Hurdles (13.21)
Penn Relays (4/30) .....................3rd .............................13.21!#
400-Meter Hurdles (55.09)
Big 12 Champ. (5/15) .................1st .............................55.09!#

Melaine Walker (indoor - 2005)
60 Meters (7.40)
Big XII Champ. (2/26) .................3rd ...............................7.40!#
55-Meter Hurdles (7.88)
Houston Indoor (1/15) .................3rd .................................7.88!
60-Meter Hurdles (8.10)
NCAA Champ. (3/11) ..................(p) .................................8.10!
200 Meters (23.97b)
Big XII Champ. (2/26) .................4th .............................23.97b!
400 Meters (55.58)
Hyatt Regency (2/5) ................... 2nd ...............................55.58!

Melaine Walker (indoor - 2006)
55 Meters (7.02)
Houston Opener (1/14) ...............9th .................................7.02!
60 Meters (7.40)
Hilton Memorial (1/20) ................5th ..................................7.56
55-Meter Hurdles (7.77)
Houston Opener (1/14) ............... 1st .................................7.77!
60-Meter Hurdles (8.06)
Big 12 Championships (2/25) .....2nd ............................. 8.06@!

Melaine Walker
100 Meters (12.01)
Rice Bayou Classic (4/2) ............3rd ...............................12.01!
200 Meters (23.24ww)
Rice Bayou Classic (4/2) ........... 2nd ................................23.99
100-Meter Hurdles (13.21)
Penn Relays (4/30) .....................3rd .............................13.21!#
400-Meter Hurdles (55.09)
Big 12 Champ. (5/15) .................1st .............................55.09!#

4. A comparison to what Walker is attempting could be Olympic Champion, Joanna Hayes. http://www.iaaf.org/athletes/united-sta ... rogression. FYI: in the year that Hayes won the Olympics...she also ran 400h.
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Postby 18.99s » Sat Jun 08, 2013 2:20 pm

Melaine Walker 13.05 and 13.08 in 100mh (wind +1.9 and +2.2 respectively)

http://trackalerts.com/2013/06/08/melan ... ries-meet/
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Postby jamal00005 » Sat Jun 08, 2013 2:49 pm

18.99s wrote:Melaine Walker 13.05 and 13.08 in 100mh (wind +1.9 and +2.2 respectively)

http://trackalerts.com/2013/06/08/melan ... ries-meet/

I think she needs to get back to 400m hurdling as soon as possible
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Postby 18.99s » Sat Jun 08, 2013 4:02 pm

jamal00005 wrote:
18.99s wrote:Melaine Walker 13.05 and 13.08 in 100mh (wind +1.9 and +2.2 respectively)

http://trackalerts.com/2013/06/08/melan ... ries-meet/

I think she needs to get back to 400m hurdling as soon as possible


Ain't gonna happen.

It's only her first 100mh race since 2007 and she's 0.3 from her PR. She's off to a good start. Definitely sub-13 later this season.
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Postby 26mi235 » Sat Jun 08, 2013 4:17 pm

18.99s wrote:Melaine Walker 13.05 and 13.08 in 100mh (wind +1.9 and +2.2 respectively)

http://trackalerts.com/2013/06/08/melan ... ries-meet/


To put in in perspective, this wonderful medalist in the 400h would not make the NCAA Final (and she might have only gotten fourth in the 400h if she were running reasonably well, and third if she was running better than the last year or so.
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Postby 18.99s » Sat Jun 08, 2013 4:31 pm

Obviously she's not going to accomplish anything big in the 100mh this season. Getting into World/Olympic medalist shape is going to take more time than just one season. But 13.05 is still good for the first race after 7-year hiatus from the event.
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Postby 26mi235 » Sat Jun 08, 2013 9:20 pm

Actually, I should have also indicated that these are better still-early season marks in the 100h for her and do indicate that there might be some promising developments -- still, 12.3x in the NCAA meet means that there is yet another 500 pound gorilla in the event in addition to the stunningly deep field.
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Postby t_monk » Sat Jun 08, 2013 9:25 pm

It's a good opener for her if you ask me.... Knowing her age, background and all. That being said.... A run like this at the beginning of June isn't promising if her aim is even to get a lane in the DL later this summer of even make it to the Moscow finals. She needs to produce the A Standard for one and seeing that there are about 4 Jamaican hurdlers running in and around that time right now she has some work to do to get on the team.

Good opener for her as I said but it's kinda late to be opening in sprint hurdles...
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Postby 18.99s » Sun Jun 09, 2013 3:45 am

t_monk wrote:It's a good opener for her if you ask me.... Knowing her age, background and all. That being said.... A run like this at the beginning of June isn't promising if her aim is even to get a lane in the DL later this summer of even make it to the Moscow finals. She needs to produce the A Standard for one and seeing that there are about 4 Jamaican hurdlers running in and around that time right now she has some work to do to get on the team.


Her chances of making the Jamaican team are decent, as 13.05 is the second-fastest time for a Jamaican this year, and this is after the other women in contention have been specializing in the event for 7+ years and have more races under their belt this season. This is shaping up to be the most uncompetitive season in the event for Jamaica in 20 years; 12.8x will probably land the 2nd or 3rd spot on the team, and would meet the A standard (12.94).

Of course, if she makes the team she won't get past the semifinals, if she even gets that far. But this is a learning and transitional year.
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Postby toyracer » Tue Sep 24, 2013 5:59 am

Apparently she is now with Fitz Coleman.

http://jamaica-gleaner.com/gleaner/2013 ... orts1.html
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Postby fasttrak85 » Tue Sep 24, 2013 10:04 am

toyracer wrote:Apparently she is now with Fitz Coleman.

http://jamaica-gleaner.com/gleaner/2013 ... orts1.html



She just figured out what we all knew. Glenn Mills weakness is hurdles. Ristanna Tracey should be far ahead of where she is with the talent she has. His 400 program is also not too solid so no matter what Melaine Walker decides to do this may not be the best camp for her. It is a pity Stephen Francis couldnt have helped her with the 100(even if he felt that wasnt her best event). That way if she failed she wouldnt have to go coach shopping and could go back to her regular training. Now it seems that relationship is severed for good and Melaine honestly with Francis help could have gotten a WR. My suggestion would be to hop a flight to LA and train with Bobby Kersee. There are always strong hurdlers there so she would have alot of competition in camp without having to be race sharp thru competiting. Anyway i wish her the best.
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Postby Smoke » Tue Sep 24, 2013 8:46 pm

I would tell her to jump a plane to LA and come to me!!! She can double :D
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Postby jamal00005 » Wed Sep 25, 2013 5:37 pm

Im not sure what Melaine is thinking at all. She will never win a medal in the 100m hurdles as that event is stacked!!!! Women running 12.2 and 12.3 and some pushing 12.4. Why on earth did you give up an event where you could have broken the WR . I just can't comprehend it. Goodluck to her though maybe she will surprise me
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Postby toyracer » Thu Sep 26, 2013 10:22 am

jamal00005 wrote:Why on earth did you give up an event where you could have broken the WR .


It was the convenient excuse.

"coach, I want to do the 100mh".

"I'm not going to coach you for the 100mh".

"okay, bye".

2012 was a traumatic year for her. Try to recall the rumours, then her performance in London, then put the pieces together. She was forced to make a decision she didn't want and then couldn't stand to be around one of the persons who forced the decision. The change of event is just the excuse.
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Postby 18.99s » Fri Sep 27, 2013 4:11 am

jamal00005 wrote:Im not sure what Melaine is thinking at all. She will never win a medal in the 100m hurdles as that event is stacked!!!! Women running 12.2 and 12.3 and some pushing 12.4. Why on earth did you give up an event where you could have broken the WR .


Her heart isn't in the 400mh any more, so she wouldn't break the WR if she stayed in it. Winning another 400mh medal would also be doubtful -- look at her disaster in 2012.
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