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Re: Florida Relays 2013

Postby aaronk » Fri Apr 05, 2013 11:44 am

The 800's were taken by:

Chanelle Price---2:02.81
Sean Obinwa----1:47.66

BTW, High Schooler Andres Arroyo would have taken 2nd in this race with his 1:47.79!!
And Sabrina Southerland would have taken 2nd in the women's race with her indoor 2:03.59!!
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Re: Florida Relays 2013

Postby batonless relay » Fri Apr 05, 2013 11:47 am

gktrack wrote:
JumboElliott wrote:More impressive is her .37 margin of victory over Candyce McGrone, who's a competent sprinter in her own right.


O. Freeman 11.02 - for perspective, only 5 US runners faster last year, 12 worldwide in 2012, and it's early April.

For more context...she ran 11.10 on April 6, 2012 in Gainesville, FL and it remained her SB for the year. 11.02 may end the year as her PB if last year is the guide.

11.10 +1.2 Octavious FREEMAN 20 APR 1992 (19) USA 1r1 Gainesville, FL 06 APR 2012
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Re: Florida Relays 2013

Postby kellits2gnv » Fri Apr 05, 2013 12:41 pm

More on the m100..
From watching the race video of section 1, it appears as if Bracy felt a hamstring pull as early as 50m into the race.

Video:
http://www.flotrack.org/coverage/250627 ... -the-upset
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Re: Florida Relays 2013

Postby aaronk » Fri Apr 05, 2013 1:03 pm

Octavious Freeman doubled back in the 200 with a legal (1.8) 22.85, edging Natosha Hastings (22.89).
"Long Jump Queen" :roll: Dee Dee Trotter ran 23.07 (1.6) in another heat..

Also, Johnny Dutch soloed a 400H in 49.09.
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Re: Florida Relays 2013

Postby Dutra5 » Fri Apr 05, 2013 2:18 pm

aaronk wrote:The 800's were taken by:

Chanelle Price---2:02.81
Sean Obinwa----1:47.66

BTW, High Schooler Andres Arroyo would have taken 2nd in this race with his 1:47.79!!
And Sabrina Southerland would have taken 2nd in the women's race with her indoor 2:03.59!!


Much windier today than last night from what I've heard. So I'm not sure Arroyo runs quite that fast if he ran it today. Too bad he didn't run the 1600m today as originally entered.
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Re: Florida Relays 2013

Postby olorin » Fri Apr 05, 2013 6:17 pm

batonless relay wrote:
gktrack wrote:
JumboElliott wrote:More impressive is her .37 margin of victory over Candyce McGrone, who's a competent sprinter in her own right.


O. Freeman 11.02 - for perspective, only 5 US runners faster last year, 12 worldwide in 2012, and it's early April.

For more context...she ran 11.10 on April 6, 2012 in Gainesville, FL and it remained her SB for the year. 11.02 may end the year as her PB if last year is the guide.

11.10 +1.2 Octavious FREEMAN 20 APR 1992 (19) USA 1r1 Gainesville, FL 06 APR 2012


For even more context...She did run 11.09 PB last year:
11.09 +1.5 Octavious Freeman USA 20.04.92 1 New Orleans 13.05.2012

She also ran 11.12 and 11.16 in June.
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Re: Florida Relays 2013

Postby aaronk » Fri Apr 05, 2013 7:16 pm

aaronk wrote:Jeremiah Green, the HS senior who did 51-6 and 1/2 indoors, TJ'ed 52-1 and 3/4 (NWI) here!

In the open women's 100H, Nia Ali ran a wind-aided (2.2) 12.75.
2nd was Yvette Lewis in 12.84.
3rd was Jackie Coward in 12.97.


Anyone know about the wind reading on Green's TJ??
The entire event had "NWI" on all the results.
Did the machine break down during the TJ??

If legal, that beats his indoor PR of 51-6 and 1/2.
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Re: Florida Relays 2013

Postby Marlow » Sat Apr 06, 2013 6:39 am

aaronk wrote:Anyone know about the wind reading on Green's TJ??

The TJ goes in the same direction as the sprints, so whatever races were run then will give you an idea. It was mostly a cross-wind, but every now and then it swung into a cross-tail.
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Re: Florida Relays 2013

Postby aaronk » Sat Apr 06, 2013 7:48 am

Marlow wrote:
aaronk wrote:Anyone know about the wind reading on Green's TJ??

The TJ goes in the same direction as the sprints, so whatever races were run then will give you an idea. It was mostly a cross-wind, but every now and then it swung into a cross-tail.


Thanks!
But for a mark to be considered "legal", doesn't there need to be an "official" wind reading taken?
Otherwise, it's just guesswork!!
Green's mark isn't a record, but it would be his PR.....if the wind reading was legal!!

I don't know the rules on this, but it would seem to me that you'd need an official reading!!
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Re: Florida Relays 2013

Postby Dutra5 » Sat Apr 06, 2013 8:55 am

aaronk wrote:
Marlow wrote:
aaronk wrote:Anyone know about the wind reading on Green's TJ??

The TJ goes in the same direction as the sprints, so whatever races were run then will give you an idea. It was mostly a cross-wind, but every now and then it swung into a cross-tail.


Thanks!
But for a mark to be considered "legal", doesn't there need to be an "official" wind reading taken?
Otherwise, it's just guesswork!!
Green's mark isn't a record, but it would be his PR.....if the wind reading was legal!!

I don't know the rules on this, but it would seem to me that you'd need an official reading!!


correct

BTW...Batman just got toasted on the 800m leg of the SMR at the Florida Relays for which today appears pretty breezy.
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Re: Florida Relays 2013

Postby aaronk » Sat Apr 06, 2013 9:07 am

The Women's AR for the 4X100H Shuttle Hurdle Relay was apparently broken by a team called BoogieFast TC.
The team of Ali, Castlin, Lewis, and Harrison ran 50.78, which breaks the AR listed in my 2012 FAST Annual as being 52.96, run in 2008 by Texas A&M!!

That's an average of just under 12.70 per leg!!
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Re: Florida Relays 2013

Postby gktrack » Sat Apr 06, 2013 11:53 am

Looked like some fun 4x1's
M4x1 - Gainesville Elite (who ran?) 38.52 beat Demps-Gatlin-Martina-Hyman's 38.59
B4x1 - American Heritage new #1 HS leader in 40.49 over Miami Washington 40.60
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Re: Florida Relays 2013

Postby Marlow » Sat Apr 06, 2013 12:01 pm

aaronk wrote:The Women's AR for the 4X100H Shuttle Hurdle Relay
That's an average of just under 12.70 per leg!!

EVERYone cheats in the SHR!
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Re: Florida Relays 2013

Postby Dutra5 » Sat Apr 06, 2013 12:02 pm

Marlow wrote:
aaronk wrote:The Women's AR for the 4X100H Shuttle Hurdle Relay
That's an average of just under 12.70 per leg!!

EVERYone cheats in the SHR!


I love relays but I've always disliked this event. I guess it's something for the hurdlers to do during Relay Carnivals.
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Re: Florida Relays 2013

Postby kellits2gnv » Sat Apr 06, 2013 12:21 pm

gktrack wrote:Looked like some fun 4x1's
M4x1 - Gainesville Elite (who ran?) 38.52 beat Demps-Gatlin-Martina-Hyman's 38.59
B4x1 - American Heritage new #1 HS leader in 40.49 over Miami Washington 40.60


Gainesville elite was Sorillo-Mcquay-Mikel Thomas-Rodgers.
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Re: Florida Relays 2013

Postby aaronk » Sat Apr 06, 2013 1:01 pm

Dutra5 wrote:
Marlow wrote:
aaronk wrote:The Women's AR for the 4X100H Shuttle Hurdle Relay
That's an average of just under 12.70 per leg!!

EVERYone cheats in the SHR!


I love relays but I've always disliked this event. I guess it's something for the hurdlers to do during Relay Carnivals.


Tell the truth, I couldn't care less about ANY "shuttle hurdle relay", but when you SHATTER a "record" by two seconds or more, it's worth a mention!!

So unless they ran just 90 meters each, or had 1 or 2 less hurdles each, I have to give this run SOME chops!!

The women's 4X800 relay produced a couple of good marks.
Tennessee ran 8:28.81 ahead of Florida's 8:30.15.
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Re: Florida Relays 2013

Postby Marlow » Sat Apr 06, 2013 1:03 pm

aaronk wrote:So unless they ran just 90 meters each, or had 1 or 2 less hurdles each, I have to give this run SOME chops!!

Or the last three all left early . . .
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Re: Florida Relays 2013

Postby Blues » Sat Apr 06, 2013 2:41 pm

Marlow wrote:
aaronk wrote:So unless they ran just 90 meters each, or had 1 or 2 less hurdles each, I have to give this run SOME chops!!

Or the last three all left early . . .


And besides the fact that there's always a gray area regarding how early the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th hurdlers can start and not get DQ'd, are there that many opportunities for four elite professional hurdlers to team up for an official shuttle hurdles relay and have a chance to break an American or World record? And like most relays, it's not surprising that splits are faster than open hurdles times, considering the last 3 athletes get a rolling (or early) start, and can accurately anticipate when they should start by watching the incoming hurdler.

Open 100H PRs of the athletes on the record setting relay:

Nia Ali 12.73
Kristi Castlin 12.56
Yvette Lewis 12.76
Queen Harrison 12.61

If we allow the last 3 of those 4 athletes to start on will or possibly early, always with at least a rolling start and full visual anticipation of when they'll be able to start, I'm not sure if 50.78 and a 12.70 average split seems that incredible to all of us, and especially since baton exchanges aren't involved. Props to the ladies for breaking the AR though.
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Re: Florida Relays 2013

Postby gktrack » Sat Apr 06, 2013 2:57 pm

G4x4 - new HS #1 leader for St. Thomas Aquinas - 3:40.74, w/ 2 sophs, 1 junior and a senior.
B4x4 - new HS #1 & #2 leaders as well, 3:13.32 for Lakewood over 3:13.45 for Miami Washington, must have been a great race...
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Re: Florida Relays 2013

Postby Marlow » Sat Apr 06, 2013 3:37 pm

Blues wrote: Props to the ladies for breaking the AR though.

Agreed. Whatever 'cheating' is going on, it's a level playing field; the previous team did it too.
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Re: Florida Relays 2013

Postby aaronk » Sat Apr 06, 2013 3:41 pm

Reese Hoffa had a SP of 69-11 and 3/4!!
It's a MR!
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Re: Florida Relays 2013

Postby aaronk » Sat Apr 06, 2013 4:24 pm

A women's 4X400 team called One Goal Athletics ran 3:24.58.
Florida and Texas ran 3:27.43 and 3:27.97 in 2nd and 3rd.
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Re: Florida Relays 2013

Postby Dutra5 » Sat Apr 06, 2013 4:35 pm

Marlow wrote:
Blues wrote: Props to the ladies for breaking the AR though.

Agreed. Whatever 'cheating' is going on, it's a level playing field; the previous team did it too.


I'm not sure the goal should be who can cheat the best. :lol:
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Re: Florida Relays 2013

Postby gktrack » Sat Apr 06, 2013 4:38 pm

Anyone have any kinda splits on McQuay or Wariner, and whoever the other members were of their 3:02.8 4x4? Was curious to know where McQuay was after a good 100 showing (10.22, w1.3). Any good college splits? Tyson Gay opening split?
http://www.deltatiming.com/results/htresult.aspx?yf=2013&mf=2013-florida-relays&ev=130404F064
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Re: Florida Relays 2013

Postby trackdug » Sat Apr 06, 2013 5:00 pm

gktrack wrote:Anyone have any kinda splits on McQuay or Wariner, and whoever the other members were of their 3:02.8 4x4? Was curious to know where McQuay was after a good 100 showing (10.22, w1.3). Any good college splits? Tyson Gay opening split?
http://www.deltatiming.com/results/htresult.aspx?yf=2013&mf=2013-florida-relays&ev=130404F064


Dudes at Flotrack say JW split 43.8 and Tyson split 45.3. GO JW!!!
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Re: Florida Relays 2013

Postby Dutra5 » Sat Apr 06, 2013 5:02 pm

gktrack wrote:Anyone have any kinda splits on McQuay or Wariner, and whoever the other members were of their 3:02.8 4x4? Was curious to know where McQuay was after a good 100 showing (10.22, w1.3). Any good college splits? Tyson Gay opening split?
http://www.deltatiming.com/results/htresult.aspx?yf=2013&mf=2013-florida-relays&ev=130404F064


I don't know what the splits were but Wariner took his team from 4th to 1st slightly over UF on the 2nd leg and McQuay had no one to run against as either Seymore ran a poor leg for UF on the 3rd leg or the 3rd leg for Adidas ran really well. Arman Hall anchoring for UF looked like he ran a good leg.
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Re: Florida Relays 2013

Postby gktrack » Sat Apr 06, 2013 5:10 pm

Pretty accurate Dutra5 - tough to tell from this video, I tried timing it a few times, but I had J. Wariner in sub-45, A. Hall in low-45 and Tyson Gay in mid-45 (if that was him on opening leg w/ lots of facial hair). Any better timers than myself, please chime in.
http://www.flotrack.org/coverage/250627-2013-Florida-Relays/video/704093-M-4x400-H01-adidas-302-Florida-304
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Re: Florida Relays 2013

Postby Dutra5 » Sat Apr 06, 2013 5:18 pm

trackdug wrote:
gktrack wrote:Anyone have any kinda splits on McQuay or Wariner, and whoever the other members were of their 3:02.8 4x4? Was curious to know where McQuay was after a good 100 showing (10.22, w1.3). Any good college splits? Tyson Gay opening split?
http://www.deltatiming.com/results/htresult.aspx?yf=2013&mf=2013-florida-relays&ev=130404F064


Dudes at Flotrack say JW split 43.8 and Tyson split 45.3. GO JW!!!


I had Gay 45.9, Wariner mid 44's and Arman Hall at 45.1 which means McQuay probably ran 46.0 or worse. Not sure we'll ever get splits.
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Re: Florida Relays 2013

Postby Bruce Kritzler » Sun Apr 07, 2013 1:36 pm

I split UF at 45.9,45.3,48.0,45.3. Wariner had to be a full second faster than UF's second leg.
Nick Uruburu splt 46.1 on hs 4x4, but got the baton in last place.
Other performances I didn't see listed above-
w jav - Vucenovic, UF 181-10 (ncaa fave?)
st - Parrish, UF 8:42.38
ham - Lomicky(un) 248-2 (75.64)
hs-
girls 4x4 - 2.Wakefield 3:43.71, 3.Am. Heritage 3:47.93
girls shot,disc - Cameron, Miami NW 45-11.25, 158-2
110h - Tucker, Am Heritage 13.83 (2.2 wind)
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Re: Florida Relays 2013

Postby gktrack » Sun Apr 07, 2013 2:00 pm

Bruce Kritzler wrote:I split UF at 45.9,45.3,48.0,45.3. Wariner had to be a full second faster than UF's second leg.
Nick Uruburu splt 46.1 on hs 4x4, but got the baton in last place....

I really like the way A. Hall (and Glass for that matter) is running thus far as a freshman, lots of promise, and a notch up on his friend/rival A. Bailey over at A&M... If they had Dukes on that third leg (or Florida recruit Uruburu, ha, ha), they would have surely given the Adidas pro team more than they could handle.

Really nice to see Wariner looking good again, let's hope he progresses thru the WC's...
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Re: Florida Relays 2013

Postby Dutra5 » Mon Apr 08, 2013 7:28 am

Bruce Kritzler wrote:I split UF at 45.9,45.3,48.0,45.3. Wariner had to be a full second faster than UF's second leg.
Nick Uruburu splt 46.1 on hs 4x4, but got the baton in last place.


Tim Holmes of Lakewood split 46.1 as well. For a guy who'd never cracked 48.00 open or relay that was quite a jump.
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